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while this may be a good price on TurboTax, it's not a good product. Intuit lobbyists are the reason our tax code is so complicated. There are plenty of alternatives out there that are free, including the IRS. Don't reward Intuit for making things complicated.
If you're filing with Turbotax come hell or high water, this is a good deal.

That said, there are a number of free filing services endorsed by the IRS that you can use for free. These can be great if you have relatively simple finances. List is available from the IRS here: https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-do-your-federal-taxes-for-free [irs.gov]

Always use caution when providing your financial information to an online service provider. It is recommended to use only trusted sources, such as IRS.gov, for these types of services.

Note also that this does not address your state filing requirements. Check with your state for local options, as some states do offer free services.
States don't charge for e-filing - Intuit does. That's one if the many ways they gouge us.

NY made it illegal to charge for e-filing because it obviously takes more work for them to process paper. I'm shocked they're the only ones.

That said, many states offer free e-file directly on their own department of revenue website. Here is a blog post with a list of those states:
https://thefinancebuff.com/free-e...irect.html

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Jan 25, 2024
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Marlin1975
Jan 25, 2024
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Quote from Bozanimal :
Both FreeTaxUSA and OLT are IRS partners and can be found in the list that I linked.

Cash app taxes does e-filing and it's free but I wouldn't say they're any better than the other free programs. They're missing a lot of forms, and definitely don't support almost everything. Anyone with complicated taxes - like business income, multi-state filings, and K-1 income - should really be working with a professional, regardless.

Cheaping out on tax preparation when you've got complex income is just asking for trouble.

I have multiple jobs (1 solo), bonds, investments, roths, etc... and use Free Tax USA with no issues. Have used it several years now and compared to other "premium" ones with no difference.

My mom used TT last year and is still trying to get last years taxes fixed from their mess. So paying does not mean it works better.
Jan 25, 2024
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Quote from Marlin1975 :
I have multiple jobs (1 solo), bonds, investments, roths, etc... and use Free Tax USA with no issues. Have used it several years now and compared to other "premium" ones with no difference.

My mom used TT last year and is still trying to get last years taxes fixed from their mess. So paying does not mean it works better.
Taxes are funny that way: What works for you may not work for others. Your experience is anecdotal: Did your Mom have issues with Turbotax because of the software or user errors? Two decades ago we had issues with Turbotax: Turns out we forgot to include a couple pages when we submitted our returns (facepalm). I have used Turbotax extensively for years, but stopped during COVID when our income became more complicated. I don't think Turbotax is necessarily significantly better than its competitors at this point, and I'm not advocating for or against it.

I stand by my comment: If you have a complex tax situation, consider a professional, such as a CPA or EA (Enrolled Agent) over a software solution.
Jan 25, 2024
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Jan 25, 2024
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Quote from _DonkeyKong_ :
I have a normal tax return and I also have a brokerage account which i trade on, a decent amount of trades per year, which isn't hard to accomplish. I purposefully don't do complex trades or buy weird investments that make taxes harder, like k-1s, etc. i get normal 1099-div, 1099-b, 1099-int.

last year i used TT prem, and because i wanted to compare, also tried tax slayer and tax act, since they're free. tax slayer and tax act had differences due to them not handling some things correctly.

i think if you just work and have no investments, tax slayer and tax act are probably a great choice.

there is a separate question of whether deluxe is as good as premier, prem is advertised as better for stocks/investments, but some say that deluxe does it just as good. unless someone actually buys both and compares, i dont know how we'd ever know.

for me the extra cost of prem is justified because it claims to be better for stocks and id happily lose the extra money to avoid an audit.
Those words I'd happily lose money to avoid audit, are the fear mongering that places like TurboTax thrive on. They sell you a product for I don't know 40 bucks, but then they try to scare tactic you into paying additional audit protection and b******* like that...
Jan 25, 2024
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Quote from MikeC8360 :
while this may be a good price on TurboTax, it's not a good product. Intuit lobbyists are the reason our tax code is so complicated. There are plenty of alternatives out there that are free, including the IRS. Don't reward Intuit for making things complicated.
https://www.propublica.org/articl...s-for-free

This article covers all the wrongdoing
Jan 25, 2024
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Jan 25, 2024
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IMO the biggest obstacle from jumping from turbotax to one of the online options that are cheaper or free is data security. I would rather pay the $40-$50 a year for turbotax rather than do my taxes for free at a revolving door of free online tax preparers. The less servers your personal information is on, the less likely you are to be a part of a data breach, simple as that.

The fact that you can do your taxes through desktop software with turbotax and mail it in, rather than submitting online to turbotax is even better in terms of security.
Last edited by pgharibi January 25, 2024 at 02:13 PM.
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Sdeals18
Jan 25, 2024
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Thanks OP, not quite as good as the last Amazon deal but close enough and prob the last deal on this. While there are cheaper options, I prefer keeping my tax info off the cloud.
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Marlin1975
Jan 26, 2024
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Quote from Bozanimal :
Taxes are funny that way: What works for you may not work for others. Your experience is anecdotal: Did your Mom have issues with Turbotax because of the software or user errors? Two decades ago we had issues with Turbotax: Turns out we forgot to include a couple pages when we submitted our returns (facepalm). I have used Turbotax extensively for years, but stopped during COVID when our income became more complicated. I don't think Turbotax is necessarily significantly better than its competitors at this point, and I'm not advocating for or against it.

I stand by my comment: If you have a complex tax situation, consider a professional, such as a CPA or EA (Enrolled Agent) over a software solution.
She did what it said and some reason TT told her to double pay as she took money out of a retirement account. It was the IRS that caught it and is working with her now. TT told her just to work with the IRS and offered little to no help.

I have multiple business degrees and still use the Free Tax USA. I compared it to others years ago, TT and other free ones, and it works just fine for my "complex" return.

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Quote from blahbooboo2 :
Premier desktop is not better for you as youre paying for capabilities that you dont use. I switched last year from Premier Desktop to Deluxe Desktop and there was no difference in handling brokerage accounts. I used to say same as you , bought premier just for peace of mind, but last year members on this forum convinced me to stop and switch..

Note, Intuit sneakily requires Premier ONLINE version to include brokerage/stock importing, but the deluxe is all you need for the desktop Pc/Mac version. Intuit is slime.
So just to make sure, the desktop Deluxe version will import brokerage account information right into the program and calculate everything?

This was pretty much the only reason I was getting TT Premier so if Deluxe does the same, I'll gladly use that instead.
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cshare111
Jan 26, 2024
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Confused. Does this include the disk?
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Quote from pgharibi :
IMO the biggest obstacle from jumping from turbotax to one of the online options that are cheaper or free is data security. I would rather pay the $40-$50 a year for turbotax rather than do my taxes for free at a revolving door of free online tax preparers. The less servers your personal information is on, the less likely you are to be a part of a data breach, simple as that.

The fact that you can do your taxes through desktop software with turbotax and mail it in, rather than submitting online to turbotax is even better in terms of security.
This is laughably false.

Reputable tax filing websites are SSL encrypted and send data directly to the IRS upon filing. The only time data exists on the preparer's server is when it's in a draft state.

When you request to review filings, that's an API pulling it from IRS servers and generating a nicely wrapped up PDF. Again, entirely SSL encrypted.

How much encryption does sending your return by mail provide?

And the desktop software? That's still web based. You aren't getting a fully offline experience in these recent versions, you're just installing a back channel for Intuit to feed you ads. Besides, storing everything locally in a file format that only TurboTax can open is severely outdated and open to ransomware attacks or unforseen data loss.

Moreover, TurboTax HAS had data breaches. So not only are they doing reprehensible things to prevent filing from being 100% free to file and far less complicated (their reach into US tax law is mind blowing on levels that would make Raytheon blush), they can't even stand behind their services being better or more secure.

The only people who have anything good to say about TurboTax are Intuit shills, people who went to H&R Block and found out what a scam that was (they are to tax preparers what GreatClips is to haircuts — total amateurs), or the grossly misinformed.
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Quote from dregan :
Government is the reason the tax code is so complicated.

Intuit is the reason we still have to pay so much for tax software.
No, Intuit TOLD you the government is what's making it complicated while directly having a hand in writing the tax laws that cause the complications.

They want it complicated so you think you need their software and services to avoid audit or "maximize" your return.

If it were up to the IRS, you would either get a refund or a bill at the end of the year and it would then be up to you to itemize your deductions to challenge what they already automatically calculate and what more often than not is accurate.

You know how this is easily proven? Most people end up taking the standard deduction over itemization and they get their return back insanely quickly.

It's simply not complicated enough for a majority of Americans in order for the IRS to waste resources finding more hoops for you to jump through.

If you really believe the IRS finds it more efficient to be told what they already know rather than simply tell you right off the bat and not have to deal with over 95% of us, you're drinking the obstructionist Kool aid.
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Quote from MikeC8360 :
while this may be a good price on TurboTax, it's not a good product. Intuit lobbyists are the reason our tax code is so complicated. There are plenty of alternatives out there that are free, including the IRS. Don't reward Intuit for making things complicated.
Do you really think a software company runs and makes the tax code so complicated? You're out of your mind dude/ma'am/she/them/they.
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I used the IRS Free File Fillable Forms the last two years. It is free for everyone, and works pretty good. But you do have to kind of know how to do taxes to use it, as it is not a "guided" type of software like TurboTax, H&R Block, etc.

https://www.irs.gov/e-file-provid...able-forms

That is also good if you do taxes on the side and run out of "free Federal e-files" on your other software (like TurboTax or H&R Block). I've used it before where I used H&R Block to do someone's taxes, then once complete print it out and key it into the Free File Fillable Forms for unlimited free e-files.
Last edited by EdEd1190 January 26, 2024 at 07:18 AM.
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Quote from nesman90 :
So just to make sure, the desktop Deluxe version will import brokerage account information right into the program and calculate everything?

This was pretty much the only reason I was getting TT Premier so if Deluxe does the same, I'll gladly use that instead.
Yep. Importing and calculating both work the same way.

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Quote from wherestheanykey :
This is laughably false.

Reputable tax filing websites are SSL encrypted and send data directly to the IRS upon filing. The only time data exists on the preparer's server is when it's in a draft state.

When you request to review filings, that's an API pulling it from IRS servers and generating a nicely wrapped up PDF. Again, entirely SSL encrypted.

How much encryption does sending your return by mail provide?

And the desktop software? That's still web based. You aren't getting a fully offline experience in these recent versions, you're just installing a back channel for Intuit to feed you ads. Besides, storing everything locally in a file format that only TurboTax can open is severely outdated and open to ransomware attacks or unforseen data loss.

Moreover, TurboTax HAS had data breaches. So not only are they doing reprehensible things to prevent filing from being 100% free to file and far less complicated (their reach into US tax law is mind blowing on levels that would make Raytheon blush), they can't even stand behind their services being better or more secure.

The only people who have anything good to say about TurboTax are Intuit shills, people who went to H&R Block and found out what a scam that was (they are to tax preparers what GreatClips is to haircuts — total amateurs), or the grossly misinformed.
I don't think these statements are accurate either. The desktop tax software does download updated forms and rules, but once that's done (and it can be before entering any data), can be used entirely offline. There is a specific e-file protocol that sends the final version encrypted to the IRS, possibly through Intuit servers, but a copy doesn't stay there. You can of course print and mail it in to avoid that if you're really paranoid. There are no ads, except for their own upselling tactics - things like audit defense, etc.

On the flip side, online tax software does store your data on their server while you're working on it as well as after in case you need an amendment. I don't think they pull back from the IRS via an API, but I don't have a reference to prove it (nor do you). Data is probably encrypted at rest and encrypted in transit, but the details of the encryption method at rest and whether employees could access that data is unknown. I'm sure the privacy polices may clarify some of this. We also know that Intuit has had data breaches.
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Quote from wherestheanykey :
No, Intuit TOLD you the government is what's making it complicated while directly having a hand in writing the tax laws that cause the complications.

They want it complicated so you think you need their software and services to avoid audit or "maximize" your return.

If it were up to the IRS, you would either get a refund or a bill at the end of the year and it would then be up to you to itemize your deductions to challenge what they already automatically calculate and what more often than not is accurate.

You know how this is easily proven? Most people end up taking the standard deduction over itemization and they get their return back insanely quickly.

It's simply not complicated enough for a majority of Americans in order for the IRS to waste resources finding more hoops for you to jump through.

If you really believe the IRS finds it more efficient to be told what they already know rather than simply tell you right off the bat and not have to deal with over 95% of us, you're drinking the obstructionist Kool aid.
This is what Intuit has done to keep it complicated: https://www.propublica.org/articl...s-for-free

The IRS clearly doesn't have us do the most efficient thing. And neither does Intuit. If they did, we could pull all the data the IRS has already directly into the existing tax software. They get a copy of all W2, 1099, etc forms already - why do I have to reenter all this data? To waste my time and risk a transcription error? The IRS wastes time on this too. Intuit lobbying of the federal government is what prevents this from happening.
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