10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurb)

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Quote from Indus_FL

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I don't get why anyone would buy a refurb drive - especially a physical platter drive. It also seems there are 2-3 refurb drive postings a day.

I have always had that mindset, but a small part of me is considering getting a refurb to throw a bunch of game files and similar backups onto and keep the drive on a shelf most of the time. But I always talk myself out of it. Probably will here too.

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Very loud. Went from WD Reds to this and had to do all kinds of gymnastics to dampen the sound.

yeah true enterprise server drives are not made with any thought to noise because server rooms are already noisy from all the fans.

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I have an old TrueNAS server full of 4TB WD Red drives. Wouldn't mind upgrading.

Does anyone have any experience with the 10TB or the 12TB linked above? Any issues with them? Did you have any fail?

I bought 4

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Quote from X7JAY7X

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I have an old TrueNAS server full of 4TB WD Red drives. Wouldn't mind upgrading.

Does anyone have any experience with the 10TB or the 12TB linked above? Any issues with them? Did you have any fail?

I can only speak on 18tb Ultrastar refurbs (fantastic), but have you ever read any of BackBlaze's drive reports? My buying habits rely on their data to feed my "collect all the things " illness☺️

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Quote from Tourist1292

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I got the Seagate Enterprise 12TB one from GoHardDrive on ebay for $82 with 3 years warranty. A 5 year old enterprise drive may last as long as, or longer than, a new desktop drive. 5 years has only 43,830 hours. An enterprise HDD typically has 2,500,000hr MTBF (vs 500,000 to 1,000,000 for desktop drive). In any case, these drives should be used in redundant array plus additional back up. Note that RAID does not eliminate the need of backup unless you are using RAID10. Indeed, I am using RAID10 in my primary NAS and has another NAS in a different location as backup.

Did they ship via USPS or UPS?

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Quote from Indus_FL

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I don't get why anyone would buy a refurb drive - especially a physical platter drive. It also seems there are 2-3 refurb drive postings a day.

Because not everything is mission critical, and two for the price of one is a reasonable margin of safety already.

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Quote from SharpDeer386

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Did they ship via USPS or UPS?

It is USPS.

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Not bad, but I'd probably do the 12TB for $89.99 from goharddrive instead.
https://www.newegg.com/p/1Z4-001J-00E07

Doesn't look like it's made by WD. Is it a as good a drive?

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Last time I bought one of these it had 39 months of use and less than 100 power cycles. Ymmv of course.

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Will these work on Synology DS920+?

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Quote from zyberwoof

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Odds are probably much higher that one of these drives will die over a new drive. But the odds of losing your data is much lower if you buy 2 of these drives instead of one new one.

The recommended minimum for backing up data you care about is what's referred to as a 3-2-1 backup. The "3" in there refers to having your data on 3 separate drives/arrays.

If you'd like to reduce downtime and avoid losing new data before it is backed up, then you also want to include some type of RAID. This is highly unnecessary for most home users. But it is something enthusiasts like to use as well.

After all of this, you might end up with 4+ drives to hold your data and back it up.

No the 3 refers to 3 copies of the data, on 2 different media, and 1 offsite.

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I feel like refurb drives are different from like refurb macbooks or some other refurb category that gets posted on here a lot because A) the drives wear out and B) there is basically no warranty. So it's like putting used crap from ebay on here. It doesn't make sense even if it's a good financial decision for a lot of people. Used crap on ebay is a good deal for a lot of things but they dont get posted here. Except hard drives. They are called refurb but lets face it they're used and have no warranty. It's super odd. And to the others saying failure is a guarantee so you should have more than one drive anyway with backups. I mean you could say that about anything used and just post any used crap on here. That doesn't just apply to hard drives. Lets put used vacuum cleaners on this site, I mean, failure is guaranteed, everything mechanical eventually breaks, so you should have more than one vacuum cleaner. Used tires too, I mean, you should always have a spare tire, that's just common sense. SlickUsedDeals. Let's gooo

I'm not sure why you feel that way about refurbished goods but I'm sorry you're so narrow sighted. I buy a lot of refurbished goods (cell phones, hard drives, vacuum cleaners, etc.). Its a great way to save money and the environment. Last year I bought a refurbished Shark cordless vacuum and it runs like a champ. I just recently saw the same vacuum for over twice as much on sale at Costco. Whether a refurbished HDD makes sense or not for others is not up to you, it depends on the buyers use case and situation.

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Quote from FairSwing2033

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Doesn't look like it's made by WD. Is it a as good a drive?

HGST (Hitachi Global Storage Technologies) and WD have been deeply intertwined for some time. Without getting into all the complexities of the situation, you can pretty much consider that a WD drive.

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Is there a app or software that can take a snapshot or list (txt file) of folders and files from a failing hard drive.

Sort of a table of contents

I know of a couple options. Probably the most convenient would be to use Virtual Volumes View [sourceforge.net]. It can essentially create a snapshot of the filesystem (without the contents of the files). It allows for easy viewing and navigation of the filesystem of a drive that may not be connected at the time.

If you just want a text file with a pure list of files/folders and you're running Windows, you can run the following command from a Windows Command Prompt. First, navigate to the appropriate drive or directory. Now run:

Code:

dir /s /p > List.txt

This will create a comprehensive list of all the files and directories, storing it in a file called "List.txt." You can change the name and location of the output file, if you want. Assuming there's a substantial number of files on the drive, good luck going through the list.

Note that both options are contingent on the drive still working well enough to be able to mount and read the filesystem.

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Quote from vertical2394

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I feel like refurb drives are different from like refurb macbooks or some other refurb category that gets posted on here a lot because A) the drives wear out and B) there is basically no warranty. So it's like putting used crap from ebay on here. It doesn't make sense even if it's a good financial decision for a lot of people. Used crap on ebay is a good deal for a lot of things but they dont get posted here. Except hard drives. They are called refurb but lets face it they're used and have no warranty. It's super odd. And to the others saying failure is a guarantee so you should have more than one drive anyway with backups. I mean you could say that about anything used and just post any used crap on here. That doesn't just apply to hard drives. Lets put used vacuum cleaners on this site, I mean, failure is guaranteed, everything mechanical eventually breaks, so you should have more than one vacuum cleaner. Used tires too, I mean, you should always have a spare tire, that's just common sense. SlickUsedDeals. Let's gooo

Storage is a bit of an oddball in that people who buy more than a drive or two tend to have a bunch of drives in an array with ZFS, unraid, etc and so unlike vacuum cleaners, buying multiples what people are doing regardless (even if they buy new). As long as you're buying from a seller that provides a warranty (ServerPartDeals and goHardDrive offer 1-5 years depending on what and where you buy), a drive or two dying isn't a big deal because the seller sends you a new one and your array repairs itself when you put in the replacement drives. You end up with substantial savings for minimal extra hassle.

Buyers looking for individual drives these days are probably looking for an external like WD MyBook or something instead of a bare drive anyway. Even PC enthusiasts who build their own machines don't buy bare drives much any more, it's mostly people building Plex servers etc who buy them now.

Last edited by iindigo February 15, 2024 at 07:08 PM.

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Can I comprehensively check health of these drives right inside a Synology box? I don't have any other ways to connect 3.5" disks at home. Please advise

10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurb)

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