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expiredsr71 posted Feb 15, 2024 8:20 AM
10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurb)
$80
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goHardDrive via Newegg has 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished, HUH721010ALE601) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Community Member sr71 for sharing this deal.
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Thanks to Community Member sr71 for sharing this deal.
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- SATA 6.0Gb/s
- 7200RPM
- 256MB Cache
- 3.5" Form Factor
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goHardDrive via Newegg has 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished, HUH721010ALE601) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Community Member sr71 for sharing this deal.
Specs:
Thanks to Community Member sr71 for sharing this deal.
Specs:
- SATA 6.0Gb/s
- 7200RPM
- 256MB Cache
- 3.5" Form Factor
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Written by SaltyOne | Staff- About this Deal:
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Western Digital's failure rates are astoundingly low.
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I also have at least 4 of the WD 2TB Black drives from 2011. They just won't die. They just sit here with movies on them .
I can tell you from firsthand experience that bad shipping can kill any hard drive. I had an idiot ebay seller ship a box of drives a few years ago with no padding. Just stacked in a box. All of the drives along one edge were dead from bad cushioning.
Does anyone have any experience with the 10TB or the 12TB linked above? Any issues with them? Did you have any fail?
No problems with the replacement drive.
I have since bought 2 more of these drives, so now I'm running 5 drives, 3 storage with 2 parity.
As others have said, Enterprise drives are much more durable and have a longer life than consumer gear drives, and for the storage to price ratio, these drives are great.
One last thing is that you may need to use the included power adapter cable in order for the drive to power on and spin up.
I did not have to use this as I plugged them directly into the backplane in my NAS case, and they just worked.
https://www.seagate.com/blog/what...-strategy/
Specifically when it talks about "media" it means physical media types (optical, magnetic tape, magnetic tray, solid state). The reason is that optical media wont get destroyed by the same means as magnetic media, so if something happens that destroys magnetic media, you still have your data.
What you are claiming is basically a Raid 1 array would count as 2 of the 3 copies of data (since Raid 1 arrays are mirrored). That isn't what it means.
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Most of us are doing a surface scan and/or basic read/write so that's going to be badblocks, unRaid preclear, smartmontools extended test, WD Data Lifeguard extended, fio, StableBit Scanner surface scan, etc.
The answer is also going to depend on the environment (OS) that you're using.
https://panthema.net/2013/disk-filltest/
Check crystaldiskinfo if bad cluster count increases. It will take as long as it takes, but that's the only way to test for sure.
https://www.seagate.com/blog/what...-strategy/ [seagate.com]
Specifically when it talks about "media" it means physical media types (optical, magnetic tape, magnetic tray, solid state). The reason is that optical media wont get destroyed by the same means as magnetic media, so if something happens that destroys magnetic media, you still have your data.
What you are claiming is basically a Raid 1 array would count as 2 of the 3 copies of data (since Raid 1 arrays are mirrored). That isn't what it means.
My link from Backblaze said:
We'll use "socialsecurity.jpg" as an example for this scenario. Socialsecurity.jpg lives on your computer at home; let's say you took a picture of it for your tax accountant years ago for some tax-related stuff (as tax accountants are wont to do). That's one copy of the data.
You also have an external hard drive to back up your computer; if you're on a Mac, you might use it as a Time Machine drive (and Backblaze loves Time Machine). That external hard drive will back up socialsecurity.jpg as part of its backup process. That's a second copy on a different device or medium.
In addition to that external hard drive, you also have an online backup solution (we recommend Backblaze, go figure!). The online backup continuously scans your computer and uploads your data to an off-site data center. Socialsecurity.jpg is included in this upload, becoming the third copy of your data.
FYI, I fully agree that having data on 2+ different types of media is even better. But for home users, it's probably not worth the cost, time, or effort. The Seagate link you shared was aimed at large organizations. My Backblaze link was aimed at home users. I think it's fair to consider how 3-2-1 could apply differently to different scenarios.
My link from Backblaze said:
Can you really read that and tell me that my I'm wrong? Backblaze says "2 devices". And then it gives an example of the computer's internal drive, an external drive, and an offsite backup.
FYI, I fully agree that having data on 2+ different types of media is even better. But for home users, it's probably not worth the cost, time, or effort. The Seagate link you shared was aimed at large organizations. My Backblaze link was aimed at home users. I think it's fair to consider how 3-2-1 could apply differently to different scenarios.
Different media means exactly that, a different TYPE of storage technology. Traditionally that meant tape, but you could substitute optical media or even arguably cloud storage these days.
3-2-1 is ideal but one doesn't necessarily NEED to use that for all your backups, just critical data.
Most homes have a mix of stuff they absolutely don't want to lose (pictures, records, etc) and those should at least be on a cold storage drive somewhere else, on a backup (array), and at least in the cloud somewhere. If you can also do optical, that's great and gets you arguably beyond 3-2-1 IMO.
For all other stuff like VM data, game saves, and other stuff that would stink to lose but it's not the end of the world, 2 backup copies being on drives (1 on site and one elsewhere) isn't the end of the world IMO.
But I'd tend to agree that BackBlaze isn't right in saying different devices necessarily constitute different media. SSDs vs HDDs..... maybe. And cloud is a slippery slope, but different media has normally meant tape vs optical vs HDD etc. Different media types ensures your data will be more likely to survive and be able to be successfully restored as tech marches on.
I have several and smart helium level never budges, so either it's stable or it's wrong. Either case there doesnt seem to be any studies on this so the warning is based on nothing.
https://drbackup.net/online-backu...ard-drive/
https://drbackup.net/online-backu...ard-drive/
This is like buying a used car with 40-50k miles on it, but you're using the few samples that can go a million miles (like Matt Farrah's Lexus) to claim that the typical 40-50k mile car still have 950k mile life left.
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There haven't been mass reports of drives failing due to smart helium drop as far as I know.
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https://drbackup.net/online-backu...ard-drive/
This is like buying a used car with 40-50k miles on it, but you're using the few samples that can go a million miles (like Matt Farrah's Lexus) to claim that the typical 40-50k mile car still have 950k mile life left.
You're assuming much for a technology that has now been around for years with no real issues yet.
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