Slickdeals is community-supported.  We may get paid by brands for deals, including promoted items.
Heads up, this deal has expired. Want to create a deal alert for this item?
expired Posted by sr71 • Feb 15, 2024
expired Posted by sr71 • Feb 15, 2024

10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurb)

+ Free Shipping

$80

$90

11% off
Newegg
118 Comments 51,908 Views
Visit Newegg
Good Deal
Save
Share
Deal Details
goHardDrive via Newegg has 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished, HUH721010ALE601) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member sr71 for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • 7200RPM
  • 256MB Cache
  • 3.5" Form Factor

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer valid for a limited time only / while supplies last.
  • Return Policy

Original Post

Written by sr71
Community Notes
About the Poster
Deal Details
Community Notes
About the Poster
goHardDrive via Newegg has 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished, HUH721010ALE601) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member sr71 for sharing this deal.

Specs:
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • 7200RPM
  • 256MB Cache
  • 3.5" Form Factor

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer valid for a limited time only / while supplies last.
  • Return Policy

Original Post

Written by sr71

Community Voting

Deal Score
+39
Good Deal
Visit Newegg

Leave a Comment

Unregistered (You)

Top Comments

lastwraith
1789 Posts
552 Reputation
Not bad, but I'd probably do the 12TB for $89.99 from goharddrive instead.
https://www.newegg.com/p/1Z4-001J-00E07
Thinkie
84 Posts
18 Reputation
I see there's a 90-day warranty from them via NewEgg. Whereas if you buy via ebay from them, there's a 5-year warranty for a few bucks more.
rbstern
309 Posts
176 Reputation
For those who are interested: BackBlaze (excellent remote backup company) publishes regular statistical reports on the reliability of drives they have in service. Because they often have thousands of a given hard drive model in service, often for years, it's probably the most realistic set of data on HDD brand/model reliability available anywhere.

Western Digital's failure rates are astoundingly low.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...-for-2023/

117 Comments

Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.

Pro
Feb 21, 2024
1,789 Posts
Joined Jan 2015
Feb 21, 2024
lastwraith
Pro
Feb 21, 2024
1,789 Posts
Quote from Geezerman :
I'm getting the 12TB drive on newegg. I was considering putting it into an external drive case I already have ( no fan), but I bet I would need a case with a fan. I'm thinking the heat would kill it.
Unlikely. I've never shucked an external with a fan in it. If you stuff multiple drives into an enclosure with poor thermals then heat can certainly be an issue, but one drive on its own in a box isn't normally going to have any problems. Of course you can always do your initial drive tests and monitor temps to figure that part out for sure. Then you don't need to worry or guess.
Feb 21, 2024
1,875 Posts
Joined Mar 2008
Feb 21, 2024
Geezerman
Feb 21, 2024
1,875 Posts
Quote from lastwraith :
Unlikely. I've never shucked an external with a fan in it. If you stuff multiple drives into an enclosure with poor thermals then heat can certainly be an issue, but one drive on its own in a box isn't normally going to have any problems. Of course you can always do your initial drive tests and monitor temps to figure that part out for sure. Then you don't need to worry or guess.
I do have two retired WD gold drives that are enterprise grade. They are fast and run hot. Even just laying bare on the desk they can hit over 60 degrees . I moved them to my old CM HAF case with front fans. The enterprise drives run hotter to me. The coolest are my 5900RPM HGST 4TB. Slower spinners are cooler ( duh ) . Thanks
Feb 21, 2024
3,165 Posts
Joined Apr 2008
Feb 21, 2024
seiromem
Feb 21, 2024
3,165 Posts
Quote from Geezerman :
I'm getting the 12TB drive on newegg. I was considering putting it into an external drive case I already have ( no fan), but I bet I would need a case with a fan. I'm thinking the heat would kill it.
There is another enterprse HD (10TB) from another thread on sale. Aside from the larger TB and different brand, what was your reason for going with the 12TB? Is one better than the other? Thanks
Feb 21, 2024
1,875 Posts
Joined Mar 2008
Feb 21, 2024
Geezerman
Feb 21, 2024
1,875 Posts
Quote from seiromem :
There is another enterprse HD (10TB) from another thread on sale. Aside from the larger TB and different brand, what was your reason for going with the 12TB? Is one better than the other? Thanks
no, I just saw the 12TB mentioned in this thread. I usually look at BackBlaze for their stats on a drive, if it is there
Pro
Feb 21, 2024
1,789 Posts
Joined Jan 2015
Feb 21, 2024
lastwraith
Pro
Feb 21, 2024
1,789 Posts
Quote from Geezerman :
I do have two retired WD gold drives that are enterprise grade. They are fast and run hot. Even just laying bare on the desk they can hit over 60 degrees . I moved them to my old CM HAF case with front fans. The enterprise drives run hotter to me. The coolest are my 5900RPM HGST 4TB. Slower spinners are cooler ( duh ) . Thanks
Yeah, but we are talking about modern helium drives, not older enterprise drives. The drive you're getting if I understand correctly is a WD Helium drive since it's an Ultrastar HC520 series. It's "enterprise", but they are very very similar to what we shuck out of their enclosures all the time. I have a WD140edgz that is nearly identical and it idles at 30C and actively runs in the 30s-40s. Because they are helium drives, they tend to run cooler and more quietly than their air cousins. If anything, an enterprise drive will expect to have to deal with more temp and vibration extremes than most other drives.
Beyond that, there aren't really any large drives today that spin slower than 7200RPM so you're locked into that regardless. WD "had" some drives that reported slower speeds in SMART, but people figured out it was a lie and they had to walk that back with firmware updates, claiming that the drives offered "5400rpm performance". Sure, whatever. We only have 3 HDD mfr choices, you can only be so picky.
TL;DR - you'll be absolutely fine unless you have multiple drives in a place with bad cooling. These drives are not that temperature sensitive.
Link to drive I thought you were getting - https://slickdeals.net/f/17296681-12tb-hgst-ultrastar-he12-7-2k-rpm-3-5-internal-enterprise-hdd-refurbished-85-free-s-h

FWIW, I wish there WERE some slower spindle speed options since these are mostly write-once/read-many drives for me, but it is what it is and my drives run pretty cool regardless. With multiple drives, you can also opt for a storage option that doesn't spin up drives unless they are actually needed for data retrieval.
Last edited by lastwraith February 21, 2024 at 03:32 PM.
Feb 22, 2024
1,875 Posts
Joined Mar 2008
Feb 22, 2024
Geezerman
Feb 22, 2024
1,875 Posts
Quote from lastwraith :
Yeah, but we are talking about modern helium drives, not older enterprise drives. The drive you're getting if I understand correctly is a WD Helium drive since it's an Ultrastar HC520 series. It's "enterprise", but they are very very similar to what we shuck out of their enclosures all the time. I have a WD140edgz that is nearly identical and it idles at 30C and actively runs in the 30s-40s. Because they are helium drives, they tend to run cooler and more quietly than their air cousins. If anything, an enterprise drive will expect to have to deal with more temp and vibration extremes than most other drives.
Beyond that, there aren't really any large drives today that spin slower than 7200RPM so you're locked into that regardless. WD "had" some drives that reported slower speeds in SMART, but people figured out it was a lie and they had to walk that back with firmware updates, claiming that the drives offered "5400rpm performance". Sure, whatever. We only have 3 HDD mfr choices, you can only be so picky.
TL;DR - you'll be absolutely fine unless you have multiple drives in a place with bad cooling. These drives are not that temperature sensitive.
Link to drive I thought you were getting - https://slickdeals.net/f/17296681-12tb-hgst-ultrastar-he12-7-2k-rpm-3-5-internal-enterprise-hdd-refurbished-85-free-s-h

FWIW, I wish there WERE some slower spindle speed options since these are mostly write-once/read-many drives for me, but it is what it is and my drives run pretty cool regardless. With multiple drives, you can also opt for a storage option that doesn't spin up drives unless they are actually needed for data retrieval.
Yes, that's the 12TB in have coming in. I have not kept up with the drive tech. I'm pretty much a jack of all trades master of none in computer building for almost 25 years now. I can build a fine looking/performing bedazzled general use computer, but don't ask me about graphics cards, or overclocking. ..So, thanks for the drive info..
Feb 22, 2024
6,303 Posts
Joined Dec 2006
Feb 22, 2024
megablank
Feb 22, 2024
6,303 Posts
Quote from Geezerman :
I'm getting the 12TB drive on newegg. I was considering putting it into an external drive case I already have ( no fan), but I bet I would need a case with a fan. I'm thinking the heat would kill it.
Yea definitely would be a bad idea.

Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.

Feb 22, 2024
6,303 Posts
Joined Dec 2006
Feb 22, 2024
megablank
Feb 22, 2024
6,303 Posts
Quote from lastwraith :
Unlikely. I've never shucked an external with a fan in it. If you stuff multiple drives into an enclosure with poor thermals then heat can certainly be an issue, but one drive on its own in a box isn't normally going to have any problems. Of course you can always do your initial drive tests and monitor temps to figure that part out for sure. Then you don't need to worry or guess.
One drive boxes tend to be lower power consumer drives. Sometimes lower rpm, sometimes they let them cook and shorten the warranty for a laugh.
Feb 22, 2024
19 Posts
Joined Jun 2020
Feb 22, 2024
Seeker_sleeper
Feb 22, 2024
19 Posts
I got the 12TB model for 89.99, better deal. Got 2 to add to an array with 4 other seagates. These came packed very well, they were branded WD not what the picture shows, which is fine. They didn't erase SMART so I could see the info, the 2 I got had 3 year power on time so like 25000 hours, really really low. For the price this is a no brainer. Don't listen to people who say don't buy used enterprise drives, they've never been enterprise. These are solid drives, and 2.5 million hour mean time before failure means they have years of life left. I ran preclear in unraid, took about 40 hours and came back fine, no errors. At this price you could replace every few years and still come out ahead vs buying new because these are typically pretty pricey drives.

TLDR; if you have a NAS these are great.
Last edited by Seeker_sleeper February 21, 2024 at 06:13 PM.
Feb 22, 2024
19 Posts
Joined Jun 2020
Feb 22, 2024
Seeker_sleeper
Feb 22, 2024
19 Posts
Quote from Geezerman :
Yes, that's the 12TB in have coming in. I have not kept up with the drive tech. I'm pretty much a jack of all trades master of none in computer building for almost 25 years now. I can build a fine looking/performing bedazzled general use computer, but don't ask me about graphics cards, or overclocking. ..So, thanks for the drive info..
I can concur with this, I have 6 stacked in my unraid server and drives stay around 40-45 degrees under heavy load. I do have proper ventilation but nothing enterprise, just a standard front case fan. Helium is great, if you own a NAS you shouldn't be buying anything not helium sealed anyhow.
Feb 22, 2024
19 Posts
Joined Jun 2020
Feb 22, 2024
Seeker_sleeper
Feb 22, 2024
19 Posts
Quote from awdrifter :
Yep. Basically this. You can't refurbish a hard drive mechanically. The motors wear out, the head actuators wear out, the platter wears out (more so on the newer HAMR drives as repeated heating and cooling will wear the material), the helium seal will weaken over time. These are used hard drives that have been used hard for 4-5 years in data centers. They are not worth it.
Most of this is wrong, just FYI. Actually I take that back, this entire thing is wrong. MTBF is 2.5 million hours, that's the mean time for an average drive to experience a failure. That includes mechanical parts, helium seal, etc. These are almost certainly not 5 year drives, mine are typically 24000 hours or about 3 years. Data centers are kept in optimal conditions, so the drives were taken care of. Don't know what you're smoking but this is a great idea for raid/zfs pool. It was OEM at like 500$ and is new now for like 280, 80$ is a no brainer. The drives are just broken in at this point. Point is, stop spreading misinformation and scaring people into spending more than they have to.
Last edited by Seeker_sleeper February 21, 2024 at 06:13 PM.
2
Feb 25, 2024
1,875 Posts
Joined Mar 2008
Feb 25, 2024
Geezerman
Feb 25, 2024
1,875 Posts
Quote from BeautifulGoat5180 :
Can these be bypassed if they have the power disable?
The cause is a new SATA specification which includes the ability to disable power to the hard disk. When you look at the SATA power connection on the back of your hard drive, there are 15 pins that make contact with your power supply. It's the third pin that delivers a 3.3V signal that disables the drive. What we need to do is prevent that third pin from making contact with the power cable.

https://www.instructables.com/How...el-Disks-/

Right now, my 12TB is in a external case that does not provide 3.3V. In a PC, you could use a molex to sata adapter that does not use 3.3V.
My drive came from GoHardDrive, and they provided a Sata power adapter that bypasses the 3.3V
Last edited by Geezerman February 24, 2024 at 04:20 PM.
Feb 25, 2024
420 Posts
Joined Jan 2013
Feb 25, 2024
Ih8reb8s
Feb 25, 2024
420 Posts
What I am about to post is absolutely overkill for most people. I get that. But I went round and round looking for an enclosure to put several of my used hard drives to back up my Nas, and I just couldn't find a basic enclosure that did what I wanted it to do and provided sufficient Cooling. I bought a super cheap 4-bay enclosure from Amazon and the fans whined like crazy and it was cheaply made. I also wanted something that could read the smart information and let me monitor the hard drives, since two of them are 12 TB data center pools like the ones in this thread. I finally decided to bite the bullet and buy the qnap external enclosure for $219, then I suddenly found this. It's a Synology DS415+ for $259 plus tax, free shipping. This guy selling them is an expert and he replaces the transistor and fixes the atom bug that this model sometimes suffers. The reason I don't list this as a slick deal is he only sells them one at a time, but if you miss out on a current listing he'll have another one quickly for sale. Here's a link to his current listing : https://www.ebay.com/itm/15607020...media=COPY
Pro
Feb 25, 2024
1,789 Posts
Joined Jan 2015
Feb 25, 2024
lastwraith
Pro
Feb 25, 2024
1,789 Posts
Quote from megablank :
One drive boxes tend to be lower power consumer drives. Sometimes lower rpm, sometimes they let them cook and shorten the warranty for a laugh.
Virtually nothing you've said is correct anymore. I have no clue where you're getting your info from, but it's doesn't sound like it's first-hand experience.
They're 7200rpm helium drives in the enclosures, nearly identical to the enterprise drives you are buying. Maybe years ago there were derated spindle speeds, but you cannot find a large drive now that isn't 7200 rpm. They don't have ratings for white-label drives, but the average power draws at idle and during activity are not going to be far off. Enterprise drives are not as power hungry as they used to be. Expect about 6w at idle and approx 8w when active.
I shuck drives and test them in the enclosure before removing them. Anything over approx 12TB is going to be a 7200rpm helium CMR drive. Even under full surface scan read/write, the drives don't generally go above 53 degrees C, they sure as hell aren't cooking in the enclosure, which doesn't even have a fan.
Out of the enclosure and in a standard case (Dell OptiPlex not meant to hold 4+ drives), the drives idle in the low 30s and temps are in the 30s-40s when they're active.
Helium drives are cooler, quieter, and will sometimes use less power than their air counterparts, but the fact is there aren't many air counterparts anymore.
You aren't going to get a very different drive from shucking vs buying retail if you do your HW beforehand. Thats why people shuck. The only negative is that you cannot be SURE of what you'll get and won't have as long a warranty as buying retail (in general).
Last edited by lastwraith February 25, 2024 at 10:03 AM.

Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.

Pro
Feb 25, 2024
1,789 Posts
Joined Jan 2015
Feb 25, 2024
lastwraith
Pro
Feb 25, 2024
1,789 Posts
Quote from Ih8reb8s :
What I am about to post is absolutely overkill for most people. I get that. But I went round and round looking for an enclosure to put several of my used hard drives to back up my Nas, and I just couldn't find a basic enclosure that did what I wanted it to do and provided sufficient Cooling. I bought a super cheap 4-bay enclosure from Amazon and the fans whined like crazy and it was cheaply made. I also wanted something that could read the smart information and let me monitor the hard drives, since two of them are 12 TB data center pools like the ones in this thread. I finally decided to bite the bullet and buy the qnap external enclosure for $219, then I suddenly found this. It's a Synology DS415+ for $259 plus tax, free shipping. This guy selling them is an expert and he replaces the transistor and fixes the atom bug that this model sometimes suffers. The reason I don't list this as a slick deal is he only sells them one at a time, but if you miss out on a current listing he'll have another one quickly for sale. Here's a link to his current listing : https://www.ebay.com/itm/15607020...media=COPY
The TerraMaster units do what you want. They will take multiple drives, have fans, and will pass drive information to the host in case you are running a distro that relies on it for identification of the drives to be used in pooling, health checks, etc.
DAS units like that are what most of us do who need multi-drive enclosures but are making our own NAS and don't want to deal with the price/limitations of something from Synology or QNAP.
FWIW, I bought the D4-300 on a deal here because I wanted a box that DIDN'T do RAID on its own. I'm doing drive pooling and snapraid so I don't need or want the box to do it.
This was a recent SD, and would have likely done what you wanted. https://slickdeals.net/f/17313562-terramaster-d5-300c-usb3-0-5gbps-type-c-5-bay-raid-enclosure-support-raid-0-1-single-exclusive-2-3-raid-mode-hard-drive-raid-storage-diskless-expires-2-24-153-99?src=SiteSearchV2Algo
Last edited by lastwraith February 25, 2024 at 10:06 AM.

Leave a Comment

Unregistered (You)

Popular Deals

View All

Trending Deals

View All