ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III AIO CPU Water Coolers (Non-RGB & RGB): 240mm Non-RGB

evilmomo

Feb 27, 2024

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evilmomo

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Quote from James369

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WARNING:
Please nobody listen to this uneducated post. Offset mounting on AM5 CPUs has been widely proven to be a superior mounting position for cooling those chips (not as big performance improvement on AM4 chips). Don't listen to this person who doesn't know what they are talking about. Please do your own due diligence and research the cooler for yourself. Watch and/or read reviews from multiple different legitimate sources.

Okay - so the fact that it wasn't even tightening down to the CPU, or that the garbage hardware was literally shedding metal powder, or that I have an AM4 not AM5, is completely irrelevant as well? Cool, you sound like one of those "believe the experts!" types...

1 - 3 degree C is a fAr sUpEriOr dEsiGn, totally not a gimmick bro, trust me.

Riddle me this then - why did the other cooler that I purchased after, which was clearly a superior build and mounted flawlessly, completely cover the CPU? Hmmm... clearly it's an inferior cooler LMAO

Last edited by evilmomo February 27, 2024 at 04:44 AM.

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evilmomo

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Quote from herbsprovence

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Just a heads up, that's the design of the cpu. It's not a bad design, it's actually much better. Watch the linked gamers nexus video or any video of testing am4/am5 offset vs no offset.

Can't blame you too much, at face value it looks really bad. Knew Arctic would get returns based on them making it default with no way alternative. I mean logically covering the entire IHS is ideal, everyone knows that. But it has to do with the microfins behind the copper plate being better aligned with the area on amd cpu's most heat generating area.

Not sure what you mean about the standoffs not being high enough nor do I remember what the install is but did you take off the vrm fan?

But both of your complaints I think could have been fixed by reading the manual if in box or on their website.

I mean - it's a 1 - 3 C difference. On an AM5 (I have an AM4). Stated by a company when marketing gimmicks are commonplace. I'm not saying they're BS'ing, but I'll stick with decades of full surface area contact when it comes to general heat sink methodology. If this was indeed their intention though - it would be wise for them to note this in their instructions.

Thanks for the thought - but yes, I mounted correctly (been building systems since the i386 / 486 days LMAO

). Followed the instructions completely. There was only one set of standoffs for the AMD option (https://support.arctic.de/product...SgOAj.webp). With the NZXT - there was one set as well but with an internal offset, that when combined with the aluminum standoffs that screw into the board, raise the cooler a couple of millimeters.

Last edited by evilmomo February 27, 2024 at 04:56 AM.

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herbsprovence

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herbsprovence

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Quote from evilmomo

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I mean - it's a 1 - 3 C difference. On an AM5 (I have an AM4). Stated by a company when marketing gimmicks are commonplace. I'm not saying they're BS'ing, but I'll stick with decades of full surface area contact when it comes to general heat sink methodology. If this was indeed their intention though - it would be wise for them to note this in their instructions.

Thanks for the thought - but yes, I mounted correctly (been building systems since the i386 / 486 days LMAO

). Followed the instructions completely. There was only one set of standoffs for the AMD option (https://support.arctic.de/product...SgOAj.webp). With the NZXT - there was one set as well but with an internal offset, that when combined with the aluminum standoffs that screw into the board, raise the cooler a couple of millimeters.

It's not a marketing bs thing. The difference is minimal yeah but it's tried and true at this point from independent reviewers or even indepndent people purchasing the arctic freezer ii like I have where you can choose between yes or no offset. The thing is you're looking at heat sink methodology wrong. The methodology is still applied the exact same. The micro fin area that best dissipates the heat is centered on the most heat generating area of the cpu. The ihs stands for integrated heat spreader afterall, it doesn't beat copper at conduction. It also doesn't matter if it gets to 100 C (technically) if there are no cpu components in the vicinity. Everything wants to be contacted centrally around the thing that generates the most heat with the cpu, not the actual cpu.

Okay well you jogged my memory but the video said amd's mounting hardware was hard to get the threads to bite in correctly. I decided to not upgrade even though the price is great since this is the first run and there will be issues like you had. Even though i'm happy to not have the entire ihs covered, would be cool if they made the copper plate bigger on revision models too.

Last edited by herbsprovence February 27, 2024 at 07:08 AM.

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edge929

Feb 27, 2024

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edge929

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Anyone know if you can put the fans on the other side of the radiator? Normally you can with any AIO but these have integrated cables in the tube sleeves. I have a non-standard setup.

B0000rt

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B0000rt

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Will a 240 or 280 perform better than my NH-D15 on a 5800X3D? The 280s look like they protrude out too much to fit in my Jonsbo D30 though

eltacopirata

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eltacopirata

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Quote from osmantrex

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7800X3D doesn't draw enough power to really benefit from an AIO. Air cooling will be sufficient for it to boost, will be cheaper, and has fewer things that can break/go wrong (ie pump failure, corrosion, leaks)

If you want the AIO for aesthetics or for your case design that's one thing, but I've been piecing together a 7800 build and I'm planning on using a tower air cooler

Not true. 7800x3d benefits from an AIO. It will boost slightly higher longer, and noise levels will be nearly silent (assuming good AIO). You can see this especially in power draw. Power draw goes up with an AIO because there is more thermal headroom. However, average temps won't be that different for a 7800x3d on air because the chip will boost a bit lower and therefore use less power and generate less heat, leaving it around the same temps as an AIO but performing just a hair less. This is what confuses most people when comparing air to AIO and leads to a lot of misinformation.

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RandomBot369

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Quote from evilmomo

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Okay - so the fact that it wasn't even tightening down to the CPU, or that the garbage hardware was literally shedding metal powder, or that I have an AM4 not AM5, is completely irrelevant as well? Cool, you sound like one of those "believe the experts!" types...

1 - 3 degree C is a fAr sUpEriOr dEsiGn, totally not a gimmick bro, trust me.

Riddle me this then - why did the other cooler that I purchased after, which was clearly a superior build and mounted flawlessly, completely cover the CPU? Hmmm... clearly it's an inferior cooler LMAO

Sounds like a user issue to me. You probably cross-threaded the screw. Lol jk jk

All I know is that if you were actually educated in the design of this product (and many others designed for AM5) that you would have known the offset was intentional. Instead of making it sound like it was poor quality engineering/manufacturing that it doesn't fit on the cpu correctly. Fyi it pays to read. I never said this cooler was superior to your nzxt. All I said was that on AM5 the offset mounting design is proven to be superior to the previous style mounting position. No denying facts buddy. Multiple companies and review outlets have proven this. 1-3 degrees celcius improvement is still better than 0 degrees. I will say though that they should have done what they did with the gen 2 liquid freezer and provided both mounting options to let the user decide.

Have fun with your nzxt kraken though! Again, just so it's very clear, I'm not saying one is better than the other. This what competition is all about. There are multiple great options out there for people to choose from.

Last edited by James369 February 27, 2024 at 07:12 PM.

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AlmostHelios

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Quote from TeethaS

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I returned mine. The pump noise is atrocious and is the loudest thing in my system. 50%, 70%, 100% pump speeds... it didn't matter lol!!!

I have the opposite experience. I replaced a LF II 360 with a LF III 360 and it makes less noise, but is a different kind of noise. In my opinion, it is a less intrusive noise than the LF II. My system is now noticeably less noisy than it was before.

goibhniu

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Quote from osmantrex

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7800X3D doesn't draw enough power to really benefit from an AIO. Air cooling will be sufficient for it to boost, will be cheaper, and has fewer things that can break/go wrong (ie pump failure, corrosion, leaks)

If you want the AIO for aesthetics or for your case design that's one thing, but I've been piecing together a 7800 build and I'm planning on using a tower air cooler

Depends a lot on your case. I have a 7700x that used to be in an NZXT H1 that was pretty quiet, other than the GPU fans which drove me nuts while gaming. So I moved it all into a Jonah i100 Pro, which is supposed to be a mini-ITX cooling monster. I put in my old Noctua NH-D15s, and even with the special 7mm offset brackets the cooling isn't great. I'm idling in the 40s, but with any significant load the fan goes nuts and it spikes to the 70s, peaking in the 90s during hardcore CPU loads. I'm honestly surprised because I never had this issue with the Noctua before.

So now I'll probably be grabbing a 360 Arctic to get more silence out of things.

DustinD5276

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Quote from evilmomo

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FAIR WARNING:

I purchased the 240mm III cooler for my socket AM4 build. Engineering garbage. The cooler plate does not fully cover the CPU, leaving around 3 - 4mm exposed. It also only comes with one size of standoffs that are not high enough making it impossible to tighten. And if you do - fine metal shavings start coming out of the cheap hardware. This thing is outrageously bad.

Went out and bought an NZXT Kraken. It was a breeze to mount. Total quality. And it even came with two different sized standoffs for AM5 / AM4, imagine that!

You are an uneducated swine.....

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RoyalMitKase

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Quote from n19htmare

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First, this product just released a couple of weeks ago so you must be referring to Liquid Freezer II and not this because these (Liquid Freezer III) now come with the contact frame included with the cooler.

No, at the time of this posting, this is what tech reviewers and people in this thread were saying for the Freezer III. Just scroll back and read some people's experiences with the III here. Do you work for Artic or something?

Last edited by RoyalMitKase March 1, 2024 at 07:59 AM.

dontblinknow

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Does anyone know how the 280 performs with the 14900k? I have a thermalright frost spirit air cooler on it right now that does a decent job, but I can't push 57x all core or 44 e cores on it. currently maxing out at 55 pcore and 43 ecore with 88 degrees.

Last edited by dontblinknow March 3, 2024 at 11:33 AM.

af8

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The ii works fine and if per the reviews this is supposed to be better by ~1% than it should work fine.

Here is ii and 14th gen

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/Frhtt6

silow

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Quote from dontblinknow

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Does anyone know how the 280 performs with the 14900k? I have a thermalright frost spirit air cooler on it right now that does a decent job, but I can't push 57x all core or 44 e cores on it. currently maxing out at 55 pcore and 43 ecore with 88 degrees.

I bought the 240mm and I'm barely able to stay under 100C with 23C ambient. I can hit 5.7/4.4 at 325 watts.

icestix

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Quote from hrl0927

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Would like to share that arctic released new liquid freezer iii which has significant upgrade from previous generation. The prices doesn't seems to be a "sale" since it's way lower from msrp from the start, but it definitely performing better than previous generation.

Since it is kinda hard to search right away from amazon's search, I got link for all the new products

240mm
Black non-RGB $76.99
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VGX1WQH
Black RGB $87.77
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VH4M76W

280mm
Black non-RGB $86.23
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liq...B09VGXMTK4

Black RGB $98.55
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liq...B09VH1QDPS

White RGB $101.63
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liq...B0CKXB56MS

360mm
Black non-RGB 90.08
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VH1T1C2

Black RGB $107.79
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CKXCP1LW

White RGB $110.10
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09VGMGJ7W

420mm
Black non-RGB $98.55
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liq...B09VH34TB8
Black RGB $115.49
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liq...B09VGXVFJX
White RGB $119.34
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liq...B09VGPZ262

I'm new with AIO but what's so good about gen3?

I am coming from 9th gen Intel that is air cooled. So I'm out of the loop.

Manufacturer:	ARCTIC
Model Number:	ACFRE00135A
Product SKU:	B09VGXMTK4
UPC:	840033402248
ASIN:	B09VGXMTK4
Brand:	ARCTIC
Item Dimensions LxWxH:	12.48029 x 5.43306 x 1.49606 inches
Item Weight:	3.7588816 Pounds
Item model number:	ACFRE00135A
Manufacturer:	ARCTIC

ARCTIC Liquid Freezer III AIO CPU Water Coolers (Non-RGB & RGB): 240mm Non-RGB

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