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Refurb: 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 7.2K RPM SATA 3.5" Internal Hard Drive + 5yr Warranty Expired

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goHardDrive via eBay has 12TB HGST Ultrastar He12 7.2K RPM 6Gb/s SATA 3.5 Internal Hard Drive (Certified Refurbished, HUH721212ALE601) + 5-Year Seller Warranty on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member ServError for finding this deal
  • Note: Includes a 1-Year Allstate Warranty + a 5-Year Warranty from the Reseller.
Specs:
  • 12TB Internal Capacity
  • Ultrastar He12 Series
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • SATA 6Gb/s Interface
  • 256MB Cache
  • 7.2K RPM Spindle Speed

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For those of us who wanted goHardDrive's 5 year warranty on a 12TB HGST drive, the price has finally dropped to $80 matching what we saw from SPD.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/156046813385
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Seriously, so tired of the same garbage being posted in every thread.
Just to get the rest of the nonsense out of the way :
1) Yes, it's a lot of data to potentially lose so don't be a moron and DO have a backup strategy if it's data you care about.
2) These drives potentially support PWDIS so make sure you do the 3.3v mod and tape or snip the pin if you have a drive that supports PWDIS but a PSU that doesn't. You can also use a Molex to SATA adapter, but use the crimped ones and not the molded ones since the molded ones can burn up.
3) Yes, they don't ACTUALLY refurbish the drive. Do you know how many places are equipped with a clean room to take apart drives and do actual refurbishing? I don't, but I do know that I don't want some random third party opening my HDD before they sell it to me. Slapping a sticker on it, doing a format or secure erase, and even blanking SMART is about all the refurbishing I require on an HDD. Or a PC for that matter.
4) Yes, these drives have a good number of hours on them. Yes, enterprise drive MTBF numbers are insanely high but don't necessarily guarantee a long life. Lots of hours doesn't necessarily mean a shorter lifespan either. If you can't handle that and would rather pay retail..... bye.
5) Yeo, these CAN be louder than normal drives. But honestly, the helium drives from WD have been no louder than most non-enterprise air drives I've dealt with in the past. Your enclosure, mounting strategy, closeness to the enclosure, and personal hearing ability are all variables we can't know. FWIW, I don't think these drives are "loud".
He doesn't need a hug. He just needs people to be able to post deals on these drives without someone coming in every single time and commenting that they wouldn't use a used hard drive, followed by pages of arguing on how reliable these are and how much life is left in them. And he's not alone. This gets old
The listing says that is has both a 3 year and 5 year warranty. I sent the seller a message asking for clarity. Ill post back what they say.

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lastwraith
03-14-2024 at 07:30 PM.
03-14-2024 at 07:30 PM.
Quote from sakaria :
Any suggestions on a dock or enclosure for these?
That's a very generic question, so...without knowing any details...
Dock = Sabrent
Enclosure = MediaSonic or TerraMaster
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ranova
03-14-2024 at 08:57 PM.
03-14-2024 at 08:57 PM.
Quote from lastwraith :
That's a very generic question, so...without knowing any details...
Dock = Sabrent
Enclosure = MediaSonic or TerraMaster
does terramaster DAS requrie kapton tape on the pins?
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BalkiBartokomous
03-14-2024 at 09:26 PM.
03-14-2024 at 09:26 PM.
Quote from bageland2000 :
I was waiting for price to come back down to $80 and this triggered my alert. I was really greatful for this posting again. Thanks, OP.
I was waiting for this to return as well. Glad I finally got out as I was about to go with 10tb for $84 instead.
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MWink
03-14-2024 at 10:13 PM.
03-14-2024 at 10:13 PM.
Quote from CalmCrib9429 :
How many bad sectors on these drives is an okay number?
You really don't want to see any. In some instances, I have seen drives continue to work properly with a dozen or so bad sectors. The problem is they have a tendency to spread. In my experience, once you hit 20 or so, that's very likely to happen.

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If the helium atom is smaller than any seal, how are these drives working in the first place?

Helium means quieter, cooler, less power-hungry drives vs air, that's why you dont see large air drives anymore.
There is no data to suggest that helium drives are going to lose all their helium and die. There is, in fact, a SMART value that monitors the helium level, so I'd imagine SMART will light up and drives will fail spectacularly if you are proven correct. Considering how ubiquitous these are, that will be front page news on every tech site.

There is also (limited) evidence online to suggest that helium drives continue to function with low, and even 0, levels of helium registering in SMART. So, there's hope.
Do you have any links to evidence they will continue working with no helium? I've been looking for some evidence either way but haven't found much.
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lastwraith
03-15-2024 at 02:14 AM.
03-15-2024 at 02:14 AM.
Quote from ranova :
does terramaster DAS requrie kapton tape on the pins?
None of the USB enclosures should require anything to deal with PWDIS drives.
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lastwraith
03-15-2024 at 02:15 AM.
03-15-2024 at 02:15 AM.
Quote from MWink :
You really don't want to see any. In some instances, I have seen drives continue to work properly with a dozen or so bad sectors. The problem is they have a tendency to spread. In my experience, once you hit 20 or so, that's very likely to happen.



Do you have any links to evidence they will continue working with no helium? I've been looking for some evidence either way but haven't found much.
Only anecdotal reports from random users online who had drives with slowly decreasing SMART helium values whose drives still functioned.

And an older BackBlaze report that mentioned one helium drive with decreasing values that still worked. Perhaps they have newer data on their helium drives that shows some with decreasing values, but I didn't look that hard because I'm not worried about this.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/he...ure-rates/

Anecdotal random link =
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoar...ium_level/

Those are the best examples, but there are some other less informative examples online.
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gcarroll357
03-15-2024 at 07:17 AM.
03-15-2024 at 07:17 AM.
Hey everyone! Any recommendations for an inexpensive NAS for these? I am thinking of picking up two for backing up my photos and media and then use backblaze as an additional data backup.

I'm just starting out so I'm looking for any recommendations on what to get put these drives in…thanks
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boball
03-15-2024 at 07:50 AM.
03-15-2024 at 07:50 AM.
Quote from MWink :
You really don't want to see any. In some instances, I have seen drives continue to work properly with a dozen or so bad sectors. The problem is they have a tendency to spread. In my experience, once you hit 20 or so, that's very likely to happen.



Do you have any links to evidence they will continue working with no helium? I've been looking for some evidence either way but haven't found much.

Do you have a link to the program you use to scan for bad sectors?
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lastwraith
03-15-2024 at 11:54 AM.
03-15-2024 at 11:54 AM.
Quote from gcarroll357 :
Hey everyone! Any recommendations for an inexpensive NAS for these? I am thinking of picking up two for backing up my photos and media and then use backblaze as an additional data backup.

I'm just starting out so I'm looking for any recommendations on what to get put these drives in…thanks
If you're going to build your own NAS, any cheap PC or case that will take however many drives you want to use (in this instance it sounds like 2) with an eye towards future expansion.
Alternatively, something small like a Dell Micro along with a reliable DAS enclosure (MediaSonic, TerraMaster, etc) that will pass drive information to the host.
With either of those DIY setups, you'd probably want to run OMV, TrueNAS, unRaid, etc. OR, you can make it a Windows box and run Stablebit DrivePool + Snapraid. Also a viable option.

For turn-key, Synology is essentially the standard and QNAP is also popular in the retail space.

If your needs are incredibly basic and future expansion is unlikely, some people just use an RPi with a drive or two. Personally, I'd go with a refurb PC over that since they don't use much power when idle and it gives you more flexibility, but for basic setups you have a lot of options depending on budget, power, space, and future expansion requirements.
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03-15-2024 at 12:08 PM.
03-15-2024 at 12:08 PM.
Five-year warranty plus raidz2, quality? who cares? Even setting up a raid10 is far cheaper than buying a new one
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petsheep
03-15-2024 at 04:57 PM.
03-15-2024 at 04:57 PM.
This identical drive is 78.50 on Newegg from the same seller right now.
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greymoose
03-15-2024 at 05:44 PM.
03-15-2024 at 05:44 PM.
Quote from petsheep :
This identical drive is 78.50 on Newegg from the same seller right now.
Nothing on the Newegg site mentions the 5-year warranty. It also states no accessories. The Ebay listing mentions warranty and the reviews say that the drive included Power Disable Adapter.

FWIW....
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03-15-2024 at 06:18 PM.
03-15-2024 at 06:18 PM.
Is this better than the recent WD for the same price or SeaGate for a slightly cheaper price?
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BalkiBartokomous
03-15-2024 at 06:32 PM.
03-15-2024 at 06:32 PM.
Quote from petsheep :
This identical drive is 78.50 on Newegg from the same seller right now.
Quote from greymoose :
Nothing on the Newegg site mentions the 5-year warranty. It also states no accessories. The Ebay listing mentions warranty and the reviews say that the drive included Power Disable Adapter.

FWIW....
Damnit! I finally pulled the trigger and they go lower on me! I reached out to them to confirm it still comes with 5 year warranty and cable on Newegg. From what I've read, they will say yes, but I'll let you all know.


https://www.newegg.com/p/1Z4-001J...5ADK8U6695


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Is this better than the recent WD for the same price or SeaGate for a slightly cheaper price?
Which WD and Seagate are you talking about? Have a link? From what I've read, I'd avoid Seagate, but I never know what is true about drives anymore vs the old days.
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stephentam615
03-15-2024 at 08:00 PM.
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Does anyone know if I can use one as a regular SATA hd?
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