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I'm seeing $42k (before $7500 federal tax credit if you qualify) for a long range AWD with all the safety features and an awesome stereo system with 310 miles of range right now in my area. That's for an inventory model that is brand new that is grey with black interior. I have one now and it is an amazing car that is a blast to drive, has great easy to use features. I believe it's one of the safest cars that europe has ever tested (europe safety tests are harder than us safety tests), is one of the least stolen cars in the US, and nobody can cut off the catalytic converter
Least stolen cars. Of course, not many on the road anyway.
80k for a long range Model Y? Lol. I find that hard to believe. It's $41k (after the 7.5k instant rebate). Full self driving is an $12k option and the few other options add up to maybe another 4k.
Anyone can see that on their website right now.
Fisker is doing this fire sale due to their inability to keep customer deposits in order and are now bleeding money because of this.
It is "after" the rebate not before (anything remotely comparable to an ocean extreme is model y performance)..there is no such thing as "instant rebate" and the federal tax credit doesn't apply to every one (I don't qualify). I could get a fully loaded loaded extreme (everything maxed out) with a 130kw battery, dual motor, with 360 mile range with definitely better built quality (magma vs Tesla is not even comparable) for 37K as opposed to ~50K for a Tesla.
Yes there is a risk, of course, but the fisker extreme is very tempting at this price point if they can live up to the warranty
Nissan just stepped away, after Mazda and other big companies looked at Fisker.
Rotting fish.
3. Q4 was -35% gross margin.
Basically, almost all the ev only makers are underwater and bleeding cash. Only Tesla reliably flipped to making money in the past year, but it is also squeezed.
Selling, general, administrative costs $200-230M vs cash on hand $130~M.
So, Fisker, Rivian, Polestar, etc are all underwater, burning cash, and have years to go before they can surface and make a profit. Each needs infusions of hundreds of millions in cash to keep going. Only one has the Saudis feeding it cash.
Given that Fisker to Tesla don't in-house manufacture batteries to components to final assembly, BYD is going to have efficiencies nobody else has.
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So no matter how you slice it, the majority of new EV brands will vanish within a decade, replaced by the majors (Toyota, Nissan going on line with next gen battery EVs 2027~) and the few monster sized EV makers (BYD) that have the cash and ability to cut costs, thus prices, faster. Xiaomi an exception since it can fund its EV side from their cellphone profits. Tesla can pull frim Musk - sell X, SpaceX, etc.
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So, $37.5k Fisker?
Price out how much can be recovered from selling the parts and battery - that's effectively your 1st day value given that even Tesla won't take them as trade-ins anymore.
So a "disposable" ev car - run it breaks and toss.
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In the meantime, I'll wait until Toyota/Nissan's 2027 next-gen EVs arrive....
I sort of feel bad for Henrik Fisker. Who lost most of his money and other investors money with his first Fisker EV sports car to compete with Telsa Model S. Now this. Maybe EV industry is not for him.
Nah, he designed a fine car both times. He's got a long history in the design role. The implementation and the business management is what he lacks.
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This one?
Anyone can see that on their website right now.
Fisker is doing this fire sale due to their inability to keep customer deposits in order and are now bleeding money because of this.
Yes there is a risk, of course, but the fisker extreme is very tempting at this price point if they can live up to the warranty
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They can't even collect money properly or do dmv paperwork right, so good luck with registration.
2. https://news.yahoo.com/fisker-los...11559.htm
Nissan just stepped away, after Mazda and other big companies looked at Fisker.
Rotting fish.
3. Q4 was -35% gross margin.
Basically, almost all the ev only makers are underwater and bleeding cash. Only Tesla reliably flipped to making money in the past year, but it is also squeezed.
Selling, general, administrative costs $200-230M vs cash on hand $130~M.
4. https://www.reuters.com/business/...022-11-14/
So, Fisker, Rivian, Polestar, etc are all underwater, burning cash, and have years to go before they can surface and make a profit. Each needs infusions of hundreds of millions in cash to keep going. Only one has the Saudis feeding it cash.
5. Then, $35k-50k+ EVs from these newcomers, and even Ford can't make EVs at a profit.
https://insideevs.com/news/693626...v-sold-q3/
Versus worldwide, BYD just threw down the massive challenge.
https://electrek.co/2024/03/06/by...700-price/
Sub-$10k EV Seagull.
Given that Fisker to Tesla don't in-house manufacture batteries to components to final assembly, BYD is going to have efficiencies nobody else has.
.......
So no matter how you slice it, the majority of new EV brands will vanish within a decade, replaced by the majors (Toyota, Nissan going on line with next gen battery EVs 2027~) and the few monster sized EV makers (BYD) that have the cash and ability to cut costs, thus prices, faster. Xiaomi an exception since it can fund its EV side from their cellphone profits. Tesla can pull frim Musk - sell X, SpaceX, etc.
..........
So, $37.5k Fisker?
Price out how much can be recovered from selling the parts and battery - that's effectively your 1st day value given that even Tesla won't take them as trade-ins anymore.
So a "disposable" ev car - run it breaks and toss.
....
In the meantime, I'll wait until Toyota/Nissan's 2027 next-gen EVs arrive....
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