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Electric cars aren't the future yet!
This car is from overseas, there is way too many red flags. Wait until drops to 30k, haha; I bet they aren't selling like hot cakes like they thought, and they probably on verge of bankruptcy again!
too new=too many issues and recalls will be there unless they did a ton of testing and fixed the bugs before rolling them out which I never see.
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That's not the definition of paperweight nor is it related to a software issue. Your Reddit reference is also bs…no one needs to speculate, just go to eBay and look for a karma…a 12 year old, so called paper weight car still going for 35-45k range
Yep, exactly. It is not green when they are destroying natural resources.
Mining also includes oil and the amount of mining for battery minerals is less than 1/10th that of oil based on $$ spent on mining. This doesn't even count the fact that the oil industry props up states like Iran, Russia, Saudi, and Venezuela.
And also remember that lithium batteries can be recycled to up to 95% of cell content so in a few decades, when enough batteries have been made to create to sustain world energy needs, you can recycle enough batteries so that you don't have to mine much at all anymore. Try to do that with gasoline and natural gas...
So not only does battery tech require less mining but it also leads to a self sustaining system that reduces our reliance on oil from countries who want to destroy us.
I'm curious what happened to all the early adopters that bought at full price over the last few months..now seeing the same car priced at 40% cheaper.
same as a decade ago when every domestic full-size pickup had 12-15k rebates at the end of the model year. the person who bought the day before lost additional 15k resale value that day
Most of the homes in my neighborhood are two physician families, average household income in here is probably half a million or more, no one gives a damn about gas prices, especially since they are generally written off anyway. My monthly fuel bill is like $150, why on earth do you think that tiny amount of money would be a reason for me to run and get an EV? My utility bills in the winter are about $500 and my property taxes are almost 4 figures a month. My house insurance is like $350 a month but yeah that reduction in a fuel bill by buying an EV, that's going to make all the difference. 😂 If I switch to an EV I should be able to charter a yacht or jet like I have always want to do.
These are the things I like about owning an EV:
Convenience of home charging - it's so easy to plug in and have about 250 miles ready to go at any time. I don't miss gas stations one bit, especially on hot or cold days, or days when rain is flying in sideways. I figure I save 10 minutes a week in fill ups, driving to gas stations, and paying which equals about 10 hours a year.
Performance - EV's have instant torque that is just fun to have. 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, effortlessly. Low center of gravity makes the car handle great plus makes it safer.
Peace and quiet - there's a reason car manufacturers spend so much to reduce the NVH of their cars - it's just a better user experience when the car is smooth and quiet when you want it that way.
Smart features - built in security cameras for driving or when parked, dog mode, never having to get into a car oven on a 100F day (turn on AC with your phone before getting into the car), amazing tech that makes road trips easier (autopilot) and safer, autofolding mirrors when pulling into my garage
Entertainment - having streaming services in the car for when the wife is in the store, or I'm waiting to pick someone up. Or if I'm sick of work BS and I need a break, just go into my car and decompress on a good show. Or maybe play a video game in the car...
These are some of the ways that EV's have improved my quality of life.
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Hydrogen has been a viable alternative for over a two decades but the hurdles for adoption are bigger than pure EVs. You can plug your car in to charge but there are very few hydrogen fueling stations.
It is the government, without the government support there is no future. hydrogen truck cwn be promissing for mining, transporting etc, and it has much less pollution than electric cars. EVs on the other hand is much more harmful than gas cars, but the pollution stays outside US and EU, so it is "clean".
LOL, Waiting for the rest to follow suit so the industry can focus on advanced Hybrid and Hydrogen tech. This Battery tech is a few decades away if that. They need to find a replacement for strip mining in Africa to make these "GREEN" car batteries.
Hybrids have all of the cost and maintenance of engines and battery replacements but don't have the acceleration performance of EVs. Truly a worst of both worlds.
A standard model 3 uses LFP batteries which have zero cobalt. Cobalt is by far the most unethical metal that makes up batteries. The rest of the metals are probably better than oil spills...
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Hydrogen has been a viable alternative for over a two decades but the hurdles for adoption are bigger than pure EVs. You can plug your car in to charge but there are very few hydrogen fueling stations.
Wrong, green hydrogen is a terribly inefficient store of energy. You lose roughly half your energy in electrolysis and half again in the vehicle fuel cell. So roughly 25% of the electricity is used to propel the vehicle vs 80-90% efficiency for BEVs. Hydrogen is lie to upsell natural gas and a way for automakers to greenwash with an inferior product that will never canibalize the sales of combustion engine vehicles.
Thats what i was comparing it to. The solar charging alone gives it enough edge to me.
You get like 5 miles on a sunny day with solar roof on a car. Maybe this is $1 a day worth of electricity. Solar is a waste of money and weight on vehicle at this time
LOL, Waiting for the rest to follow suit so the industry can focus on advanced Hybrid and Hydrogen tech. This Battery tech is a few decades away if that. They need to find a replacement for strip mining in Africa to make these "GREEN" car batteries.
What does this mean for current battery tech? Companies are building 400 mile range EVs and forecasting costs to be below gas cars within 3-4 years.
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This car is from overseas, there is way too many red flags. Wait until drops to 30k, haha; I bet they aren't selling like hot cakes like they thought, and they probably on verge of bankruptcy again!
too new=too many issues and recalls will be there unless they did a ton of testing and fixed the bugs before rolling them out which I never see.
And also remember that lithium batteries can be recycled to up to 95% of cell content so in a few decades, when enough batteries have been made to create to sustain world energy needs, you can recycle enough batteries so that you don't have to mine much at all anymore. Try to do that with gasoline and natural gas...
So not only does battery tech require less mining but it also leads to a self sustaining system that reduces our reliance on oil from countries who want to destroy us.
Convenience of home charging - it's so easy to plug in and have about 250 miles ready to go at any time. I don't miss gas stations one bit, especially on hot or cold days, or days when rain is flying in sideways. I figure I save 10 minutes a week in fill ups, driving to gas stations, and paying which equals about 10 hours a year.
Performance - EV's have instant torque that is just fun to have. 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, effortlessly. Low center of gravity makes the car handle great plus makes it safer.
Peace and quiet - there's a reason car manufacturers spend so much to reduce the NVH of their cars - it's just a better user experience when the car is smooth and quiet when you want it that way.
Smart features - built in security cameras for driving or when parked, dog mode, never having to get into a car oven on a 100F day (turn on AC with your phone before getting into the car), amazing tech that makes road trips easier (autopilot) and safer, autofolding mirrors when pulling into my garage
Entertainment - having streaming services in the car for when the wife is in the store, or I'm waiting to pick someone up. Or if I'm sick of work BS and I need a break, just go into my car and decompress on a good show. Or maybe play a video game in the car...
These are some of the ways that EV's have improved my quality of life.
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A standard model 3 uses LFP batteries which have zero cobalt. Cobalt is by far the most unethical metal that makes up batteries. The rest of the metals are probably better than oil spills...
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