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Product Name: | Scotts Turf Builder THICK'R LAWN Grass Seed, Fertilizer, and Soil Improver for Sun & Shade, 1,200 sq. ft., 12 lbs. |
Manufacturer: | The Scotts Company LLC |
Model Number: | S09 30156 |
Product SKU: | B077SXJDJP |
UPC: | 32247301565 |
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In general, you want a mix of several similar varieties and several species of the same variety to provide characteristics from each and ensure stress and disease doesn't wipe out your lawn.
I wouldn't even mind a dirt mix but this contains none of that. I'm trying to fill in big bare spots. And removing a lot of moss, like the second Amazon feedback from WA. "3. I used the Sun Joe Dethatcher. I dethatched vertically and then scarified horizontally this is two different attachments (Dethatcher has the tines and the scarifier has blades and digs deeper). This improves the seed to soil contact by removing the dead matter in the lawn. It also creates these little trenches in the soil and the seeds land in them. It ripped out most of the moss that was preventing the grass from filling in."
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I wouldn't even mind a dirt mix but this contains none of that. I'm trying to fill in big bare spots. And removing a lot of moss, like the second Amazon feedback from WA. "3. I used the Sun Joe Dethatcher. I dethatched vertically and then scarified horizontally this is two different attachments (Dethatcher has the tines and the scarifier has blades and digs deeper). This improves the seed to soil contact by removing the dead matter in the lawn. It also creates these little trenches in the soil and the seeds land in them. It ripped out most of the moss that was preventing the grass from filling in."
This stuff is designed to be an all-in-one patch to fill in bare spots so you don't need to buy a seed mix and fertilizer...really nothing wrong with that other than it's a smaller coverage area.
Do you know what turfgrass species are there now? If it's old, many of the newer varieties are GMO'd to be darker green, so that's an interesting quirk if you are spot repairing, as the new grass may be darker than the existing grass, in which case it's useful to overseed the whole lawn (or at least that section) to blend in the new grass so it matches better.
This stuff is designed to be an all-in-one patch to fill in bare spots so you don't need to buy a seed mix and fertilizer...really nothing wrong with that other than it's a smaller coverage area.
Do you know what turfgrass species are there now? If it's old, many of the newer varieties are GMO'd to be darker green, so that's an interesting quirk if you are spot repairing, as the new grass may be darker than the existing grass, in which case it's useful to overseed the whole lawn (or at least that section) to blend in the new grass so it matches better.
I just bought a 25lb bag from Costco for $55 after it's been discounted, originally $65. This deal here would make it $34 for 2 bags (24lbs).
Lotta people have negative opinions on this product, but It's just easier to buy one bag and be good to go, vs running to several stores and figuring out where to buy what where. All I know is my lawn looks better from a year ago after the first application a few weeks back and I've got enough left over for a full application in the fall.
From years of working 4-10s and having to rely on other people to keep up on watering newly seeded areas for just 3 days a week (and ideally 9 days MAX in a month, since the seed should have germinated and started providing itself some shade and had a better chance of surviving), I learned to just assume they'll either not water it at all, or overwater it and washed the seed out because they missed one, or two, times of day where they should have watered. lol
From years of working 4-10s and having to rely on other people to keep up on watering newly seeded areas for just 3 days a week (and ideally 9 days MAX in a month, since the seed should have germinated and started providing itself some shade and had a better chance of surviving), I learned to just assume they'll either not water it at all, or overwater it and washed the seed out because they missed one, or two, times of day where they should have watered. lol
The other lawn was much worse, truckload of moss and thatch so they got the full treatment.
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I'm in the PNW as well. IIRC Fescue/Ryegrasses is generally what is used around here. Not entirely sure which type of each exactly, but a seed supplier would be able to set you up. They also tend to only sell grass seed that is appropriate for the area.
But, if you are wanting to seed, I'd wait until fall. I've seeded enough times in the PNW to know that the rain will stop and the sun will come out right when you put that seed out, even in the spring. If you can keep up on making sure the soil is moist, then this is actually great--will germinate quickly. Just have to time your weed management carefully. I think 6 weeks before and after seeding, no weed killers, and about right now is when you'd want to get the weed killer down since those weeds are loving the bump in temp and light.
I seeded a large lawn back in 2016 or 2017, first week of April. Didn't rain for a month and it was sunny and abnormally hot for that time of year. Complete failure. I core aerated, put down some soil and overseeded my lawn last May. Didn't rain for 2 weeks and was in the 80s most of the time. I even checked the weather forecast and there was 100% chance of rain for 3 of the 5 days and expected clouds and rain onward. Just never know in the PNW what is really going to happen with the weather. haha
Edit: As others and I have mentioned, if you seed, a bit of straw will help a lot to hold the seed in place and keep it moist. I've also used some dried, leftover grass clippings from my mostly weed-free lawn.
This stuff is designed to be an all-in-one patch to fill in bare spots so you don't need to buy a seed mix and fertilizer...really nothing wrong with that other than it's a smaller coverage area.
Do you know what turfgrass species are there now? If it's old, many of the newer varieties are GMO'd to be darker green, so that's an interesting quirk if you are spot repairing, as the new grass may be darker than the existing grass, in which case it's useful to overseed the whole lawn (or at least that section) to blend in the new grass so it matches better.
There is some debate whether acidic soil really plays a big role in moss taking over a lawn. All I know is I threw down multiple applications of lime in the past 16 months and still brought up quite a bit of moss with the dethatcher. I think the real solution is probably burning the whole lawn to carbon (ok, that part might be overkill), bringing in 5 inches of quality compost, then rototilling it all in and starting fresh.
Don't forget to water everyday after putting down lawn products.
Super green lawn man
Ryegrass is hot garbage and shouldn't exceed 10-15% of a fescue blend. Real seed blends should have 0% ryegrass to begin with.
Seed costs are negligible to the total maintenance costs of a lawn. Don't skimp on seed. Spend the extra $10 to get the real stuff vs. this mass produced low quality rye garbage. You'll have to buy better seed later anyway to replace this stuff.
Theoretically, rye is the quickest to germinate and is there as a "starter" variety for the fescue/Kentucky blue to fill in and takeover. Reality is it's unnecessary as prepping and laying down straw will hold the bare soil fine and provide coverage/moisture retention for fescue to germinate.
You should also know - there is bluegrass seed in the bag also. Bluegrass seed is very small, so when you see those percentages of seed cultivars on the back label - those are BY WEIGHT. If you actually counted seeds, you'd find the ratio closer to 50/50.
I haven't used this particular product, but I have used Scotts before. I know folks complain about the "seed vs other material" in Scotts products, or "all you are paying for is coating"....but I've had nothing but great luck with Scotts. It's pricey, and makes me question the value - but it grows where I want it to.