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Hp Prime G2 Graphing Calculator 2AP18AA $124

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Apr 27, 2024 08:04 PM
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DT35Apr 27, 2024 08:04 PM
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Top of the line grapher with touch screen, why the downvotes?
Apr 27, 2024 08:27 PM
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NrkeeneApr 27, 2024 08:27 PM
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What level of math do these start to get used? It's been a long time. But want to think trig?
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steltekApr 27, 2024 11:54 PM
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Quote from Nrkeene :
What level of math do these start to get used? It's been a long time. But want to think trig?

This calculator is way overkill for trigonometry, and most instructors would probably not let you use it due to having a CAS (computer algebra system).

However, while it has the G2 model number, the item description shows 256MB of flash memory which corresponds to the older G1 model so YMMV as to whether you get an older G1 model vs the newer G2.
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Quote from Nrkeene :
What level of math do these start to get used? It's been a long time. But want to think trig?
It's true, it's overkill for most HS math classes, but it does make them easier. My son is finishing up Geometry and some students are starting to use graphing calculators. My daughter is in 5th grade learning simple algebra, surface area, volume, ratios, simple stat (range, median, interquartile range, MAD, etc). Her advanced class just started allowing calculators towards the end of the year and this calculator performs conversions for area and volume easily. Teachers won't let them just give an answer, so she still has to do problems by hand, but can easily check her answer with this calculator socould ace every test. Teachers in our district allow this because it's allowed for SAT and AP test, but not the ACT.

Thinking back to my math classes, I think algebra II is where this really helps, specifically matrices. Trig can still be done 100% with a scientific calculator, no need for graphing.

For school though, it's really tough to use this because all teachers use the TI line. You'd have to learn on your own or YouTube a lot. The benefit of this HP is the speed over the TI. The extra seconds graphing and scrolling actually matter in a 1 hr HS exam.
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Apr 28, 2024 01:16 AM
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Quote from Nrkeene :
What level of math do these start to get used? It's been a long time. But want to think trig?
If you wanna ruin your child's math skills for decades to come… yup, perfect calculator for that!
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Apr 28, 2024 01:21 AM
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Quote from vtec26 :
It's true, it's overkill for most HS math classes, but it does make them easier. My son is finishing up Geometry and some students are starting to use graphing calculators. My daughter is in 5th grade learning simple algebra, surface area, volume, ratios, simple stat (range, median, interquartile range, MAD, etc). Her advanced class just started allowing calculators towards the end of the year and this calculator performs conversions for area and volume easily. Teachers won't let them just give an answer, so she still has to do problems by hand, but can easily check her answer with this calculator so aces every test. Teachers in our district allow this because it's allowed for SAT and AP test, but not the ACT.

Thinking back to my math classes, I think algebra II is where this really helps, specifically matrices. Trig can still be done 100% with a scientific calculator, no need for graphing.

For school though, it's really tough to use this because all teachers use the TI line. You'd have to learn on your own or YouTube a lot. The benefit of this HP is the speed over the TI. The extra seconds graphing and scrolling actually matter in a 1 hr HS exam.
Holy crap… your kid is in 5th grade and using this calculator??? You're doing her a solid disservice, this is exactly the crutch a growing brain shouldn't have.

Also, lol extra seconds on a HS exam…….
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bbierApr 28, 2024 04:07 AM
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Quote from psyctto :
If you wanna ruin your child's math skills for decades to come… yup, perfect calculator for that!
Have you seen state test scores for public schools recently? There are entire CITIES where the students don't even know what a calculator does.

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Quote from steltek :
This calculator is way overkill for trigonometry, and most instructors would probably not let you use it due to having a CAS (computer algebra system).

However, while it has the G2 model number, the item description shows 256MB of flash memory which corresponds to the older G1 model so YMMV as to whether you get an older G1 model vs the newer G2.
Thanks, didn't notice the 256mb part. Good catch.

I wonder if they messed up description as G2 is supposed to have: 256 MB DDR3 SDRAM, 512 MB Flash. Maybe they meant to say 256mb ram and not flash? As you mentioned, model number aligns with G2.
Last edited by vtec26 April 28, 2024 at 02:07 AM.
Apr 28, 2024 09:09 AM
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Truth-SerumApr 28, 2024 09:09 AM
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Thought Texas Instruments had a monopoly on this
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Near monopoly, probably why their models aren't as advanced. But there is an advantage for TI because almost every HS teaches with it hence easier to learn.
Apr 28, 2024 01:35 PM
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Quote from bbier :
Have you seen state test scores for public schools recently? There are entire CITIES where the students don't even know what a calculator does.
Has not a single thing to do with calculator skills… my wife is an English teacher in a title 1 school here in NY… it's the parents being horrible at their job, 100%.
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Quote from Truth-Serum :
Thought Texas Instruments had a monopoly on this
Nah, HP has been around forever… they just had RPN, which everybody hates with a passion 😉
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is it better than TI?

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Apr 28, 2024 09:16 PM
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Quote from smartdeals :
is it better than TI?
If this is a G2 model (and, I've been messed over by Woot enough times to not trust them without verifying given the description discrepancy in this case), it is equivalent to TI's highest end Nspire lines. Both are programmable, meaning you can write your own programs to use on the calculator.

It has been my experience that TI models are the best for school, as TI has spent a LOT of money developing a monopoly on being THE default school calculator over the years. Student instruction using calculators will almost always default to presuming the student has a TI calculator.


However, for real world applications, I'd prefer the HP (either my trusty old HP 50G, which will be pried out of my cold dead hands, or the HP Prime series) as I find it quicker and easier to use than the equivalent TI.


Just my 2 cents.

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