expired Posted by Suryasis • May 12, 2024
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expired Posted by Suryasis • May 12, 2024
May 12, 2024 12:57 PM
HP OMEN 40L Gaming Desktop: i5-13400, RTX 4060, 16GB DDR5, 512GB SSD
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One issue that has come up recently is motherboard power settings for CPU's allowing way too much power draw to the point that it cooks the processor. AMD had it happen and had to get motherboard manufacturers to put in tighter power restrictions. Intel is currently facing this issue and the other issue they are having is some of their CPU's aren't stable at baseline settings. Motherboard companies were enabling higher power profiles by default to avoid instability, in doing so this allowed some CPU's to get up to 100c. Given pushback for those profiles they enabled baseline by default and now stability issues are cropping up. Now it's motherboard companies saying it's bad processors and intel saying it's bad baseline settings.
As for 80Plus and efficiency, go look up their certification numbers and every single one you're going to see numbers for 20% load, 50%, 100%, Every single one has their highest efficiency ~50%, which is exactly why you want to double your expected draw.. Better efficiency means lower power bills, less heat, and your PSU lasts longer..
If a device has a baseline draw of 850W, you're suggesting a power supply that exceeds 15A?
So only dedicated 20A breakers, according to you?
Where did you get your EE degree?
Again, I'm not arguing 80Plus efficiency, only practicality in your statement.
There's no reason to get a PSU rated at 2x power draw from load.
See screenshot. 750w psu load from 150w - 700w maintains efficiency in range of 86-91%
https://cdn.mos.cms.fut
There can be power spikes but not sustained overload in a desktop either. Anyways in such case the OCP/OVP of the PSU should kick in.
Having a beefier psu is good only for future upgrades but if you end up with a 1000w psu (instead of 500w) for 180w PC then you're actually losing money (and ironically this most likely will be cause of psu inefficiency of 1000w psu (<20% load)
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responds: The RTX 4060 has 1 HDMI 2.1 port and 3 DisplayPort 1.4 ports. You can use any combination of those ports to hook-up to multiple monitors at the same time as long as they have one of the supporting inputs for an output not already in use from the computer.
I ended up buying this but I did not see the power spec before I pulled the trigger.
Edit: discount Giftcard and minor CB sweetens the deal for me on the HP.
If a device has a baseline draw of 850W, you're suggesting a power supply that exceeds 15A?
So only dedicated 20A breakers, according to you?
Where did you get your EE degree?
Again, I'm not arguing 80Plus efficiency, only practicality in your statement.
This isn't rocket science. PSU's aren't insanely expensive and not only will you save money with it being more efficient, it will last longer, and it's cheap insurance to hedge your bets on it not nuking your system. Double your draw is best, but anything over 20% higher than your draw is fine and even only 10% over you might not see issues beyond using slightly more electricity.
I'll also throw this in, but it might confuse you since you get lost on the word generally, if you have the choice between a PSU that is double your draw and only 80plus versus one that's 25% over your draw but 80plus Platinum you generally want to go with the Platinum. The 80plus at it's most efficient isn't anywhere near the platinum and the platinum is going to be using better parts/design.
I ended up buying this but I did not see the power spec before I pulled the trigger.
Edit: discount Giftcard and minor CB sweetens the deal for me on the HP.
With discounts you can get the Omen to $730, and cashback portals are at 5% so the pricing is basically identical. And its a nationwide offer while this is Microcenter instore only.
With the Omen you get a 4060, which is significantly better in ray tracing, slightly better in rasterization, and Nvidia's software suite (vastly better) and drivers. You get DDR5. You get LGA1700 which has an upgrade path unlike AM4. In gaming the 13400 and 5800x3d will both be GPU bottlenecked by the RX7600 and 4060, in applications like the adobe suite the 13400 is faster. Networking in better on the Omen too. Parts on the Omen are standard and not proprietary (so same deal as the powerspec)
They are similar enough, but the Omen has quite a few upsides to it that the Powerspec has not rebuttals for.
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I already have this one sitting in my closet from Costco...
https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/fp/951480
But I can get this one via EPP for 724.00.
I think this one looks cooler, but it does have less ram and no extra hard drive space besides the 512MB of SSD.
What do you guys think ?
I have had bad luck with HP PC's in the past, but I have read a lot of good things about the OMEN line and I have never owned Cyberpower before.
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