Costway 12000 BTU 21 SEER2 208-230V Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner

integ209

Jun 6, 2024 4:10 AM

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I installed 3 of these last week ... excellent ... fricking cold .,.. got to 102 yesterday here and these kept the 3 cabanas all at 68 degree easily ... easy to install .. you just need to have a vacuum pump and octopus -- both available for FREE rental at most auto parts stores ... Unfortunately COSTWAY will not price match themselves so was hoping to get the 40 difference i had paid each ... QUIET as a whisper ... took about 2 hours start to finish (not including the 8 hours i let the vacuum pump run per AC - to install ....

May i ask whats the vacc pump and octopus for? Looking to buy this. Thanks

SlickGuide8482

Jun 6, 2024 5:04 AM

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SlickGuide8482Jun 6, 2024 5:04 AM

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Are these units eligible for rebates from PPL in Pennsylvania? PPL mentions $500 rebate if installed by a certified technician and eligible product.

micahebrandenburg

Jun 6, 2024 6:58 AM

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I can't see why I would ever need to spend $$$$$ on central air ever again. I could buy 5 of these and when my current units eventually go, I'll save the cost of two trane condensers, which will probably be around $12,000 vs $1,750 after energy star rebate. This is insane. How does this not put these AC places out of business?! I gotta be missing something.

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kekeke

Jun 6, 2024 7:00 AM

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kekekeJun 6, 2024 7:00 AM

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Does this have an app? TUYA?

MyBallsItch

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Quote from micahebrandenburg

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I can't see why I would ever need to spend $$$$$ on central air ever again. I could buy 5 of these and when my current units eventually go, I'll save the cost of two trane condensers, which will probably be around $12,000 vs $1,750 after energy star rebate. This is insane. How does this not put these AC places out of business?! I gotta be missing something.

"How does this not put these AC places out of business?"

Electrical wiring and installation, including permits and inspections for these would make these cost as much as the whole house unit. These are 220v units, most people aren't going to have all those 5x 220v wires run and space in the panel for that.

Installation costs on these will cost way more than the units themselves.

The only way you're saving money with these is if you're doing it all yourself and avoiding all that cost.

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topcho

Jun 6, 2024 11:01 AM

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Quote from MyBallsItch

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"How does this not put these AC places out of business?"

Electrical wiring and installation, including permits and inspections for these would make these cost as much as the whole house unit. These are 220v units, most people aren't going to have all those 5x 220v wires run and space in the panel for that.

Installation costs on these will cost way more than the units themselves.

The only way you're saving money with these is if you're doing it all yourself and avoiding all that cost.

You are not serious. Electrical wiring and installation (of wiring) with permits, even if done professionally, would be several hundred $. A whole-house unit would start at $15,000.

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WEVUDO

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WEVUDOJun 6, 2024 11:07 AM

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Quote from micahebrandenburg

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I can't see why I would ever need to spend $$$$$ on central air ever again. I could buy 5 of these and when my current units eventually go, I'll save the cost of two trane condensers, which will probably be around $12,000 vs $1,750 after energy star rebate. This is insane. How does this not put these AC places out of business?! I gotta be missing something.

What are people paying for installs?

jdbelani

Jun 6, 2024 11:42 AM

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jdbelaniJun 6, 2024 11:42 AM

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Two questions if someone can help me decide:

1. Costway 12K or Mr. Cool from Costco?

Mr. Cool is almost 3x the cost! I know Costco is great with returns, but that price difference is huge!

https://www.costco.com/mrcool-e-s...43469.html

2. If the room is smaller and perhaps 9k will be sufficient, are there any disadvantages in getting the 12k instead?

Thanks!

three0duster

Jun 6, 2024 12:42 PM

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three0dusterJun 6, 2024 12:42 PM

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Quote from jdbelani

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Two questions if someone can help me decide:

1. Costway 12K or Mr. Cool from Costco?

Mr. Cool is almost 3x the cost! I know Costco is great with returns, but that price difference is huge!

https://www.costco.com/mrcool-e-s...43469.html [costco.com]

2. If the room is smaller and perhaps 9k will be sufficient, are there any disadvantages in getting the 12k instead?

Thanks!

If you go too big, it can short cycle. Meaning it will cool very quickly and not run long enough to take moisture out and add start and stops that will add extra wear to the components. I'm sure there are more reasons , but make sure you take into account windows and climate with your sizing calculations.

jdbelani

Jun 6, 2024 3:21 PM

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jdbelaniJun 6, 2024 3:21 PM

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Quote from three0duster

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If you go too big, it can short cycle. Meaning it will cool very quickly and not run long enough to take moisture out and add start and stops that will add extra wear to the components. I'm sure there are more reasons , but make sure you take into account windows and climate with your sizing calculations.

Thank you for the insights!

ghostwriter66

Jun 6, 2024 3:41 PM

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Quote from integ209

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May i ask whats the vacc pump and octopus for? Looking to buy this. Thanks

They are used to ensure that the lines are 100% purged of any air and moisture so that the freon can be 100% effective ... IF there is any air or moisture in the lines it reduces the efficiencies of the unit (think of adding water to a gas tank) ..... There are 100's of YouTube videos on how to do this -- it is EXTREMELY simple -- hook up the hose -- - open hose - turn on vacuum pump ... after about 20 minutes - close hose -- turn off pump -- open freon valve on AC -- and then you're done take off octopus and return to store ...

THAT SIMPLE

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ghostwriter66

Jun 6, 2024 3:44 PM

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Quote from jdbelani

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Two questions if someone can help me decide:

1. Costway 12K or Mr. Cool from Costco?

Mr. Cool is almost 3x the cost! I know Costco is great with returns, but that price difference is huge!

https://www.costco.com/mrcool-e-s...43469.html

2. If the room is smaller and perhaps 9k will be sufficient, are there any disadvantages in getting the 12k instead?

Thanks!

I honestly believe that these are all made in the same plant by the same guy somewhere in China .. why pay 3X more than you need to for literally the same thing .... IF the A/C is going to go bad after install its going to do so pretty soon - while its still under warranty ... also pay for it by credit card and your warranty is usually extended ... We have NEVER had an issue AFTER the warranty has expired -- of all of these that was somehow wrong -- we noticed it within the first 30 minutes ...

I love COSTCO - but save your money -- COSTWAY is having really good sales as i type ...

norcal007

Jun 6, 2024 4:09 PM

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norcal007Jun 6, 2024 4:09 PM

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Quote from jdbelani

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Two questions if someone can help me decide:

1. Costway 12K or Mr. Cool from Costco?

Mr. Cool is almost 3x the cost! I know Costco is great with returns, but that price difference is huge!

https://www.costco.com/mrcool-e-s...43469.html [costco.com]

2. If the room is smaller and perhaps 9k will be sufficient, are there any disadvantages in getting the 12k instead?

Thanks!

Mitsubishi

topcho

Jun 6, 2024 7:25 PM

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topchoJun 6, 2024 7:25 PM

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Quote from jdbelani

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Two questions if someone can help me decide:

1. Costway 12K or Mr. Cool from Costco?

Mr. Cool is almost 3x the cost! I know Costco is great with returns, but that price difference is huge!

https://www.costco.com/mrcool-e-s...43469.html [costco.com]

2. If the room is smaller and perhaps 9k will be sufficient, are there any disadvantages in getting the 12k instead?

Thanks!

Mr. Cool requires no vacuuming. Even though the majority of mini split are made in China, they are not the same. Mitsubishi is not an option for DIY.

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hmx

Jun 6, 2024 7:30 PM

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Quote from topcho

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You are not serious. Electrical wiring and installation (of wiring) with permits, even if done professionally, would be several hundred $. A whole-house unit would start at $15,000.

It's only 12k btu with one indoor unit. Pretty easy to go eight times this price to get three indoor units with enough capacity. And you might need more than three. Plus the additional lines, charge, etc one might need for their floorplan as these aren't so utterly universal out of the box even with enough cooling capacity. Now add installer markup on the price like they do with central and it gets a little bit closer.

Warranty coverage and tech willingness to service is also a big part of it. Cheap to acquire but currently more difficult to maintain. Mostly along that line though (imo), HVAC is treated like some black box industry that consumers are never supposed to peer into and just pay whatever is asked.

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