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KME Sharpeners D4 Diamond Stone Knife Sharpening System w/ Base

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KnifeJoy has KME Sharpeners D4 Diamond Stone Knife Sharpening System w/ Base on sale for $179.95. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member WilliamMunny63 for sharing this deal.

Kit Includes:
  • KME Knife Sharpening System Jig
  • Large Hardshell Case
  • KME Gold Series X-Coarse Hone - 140 grit
  • KME Gold Series Coarse Hone - 300 grit
  • KME Gold Series Fine Hone - 600 Grit
  • KME Gold Series Extra Fine Hone - 1500 grit
  • 1oz Water Bottle
  • Stop collar
  • 12 x 12 Cotton Cleaning Cloth
  • Detailed Instructions
  • Base
  • Made in USA

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  • Rated 4.7 out of 5 stars from BladeHQ customers.
  • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $40 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $219.95. -SaltyOne
  • About KnifeJoy: We are an Authorized Dealer. Be confident when buying from KnifeJoy that all purchases will be authentic and come with all factory warranties and packaging
  • Please see the original post for additional details & refer to the forum thread for discussion. 

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KnifeJoy has KME Sharpeners D4 Diamond Stone Knife Sharpening System w/ Base on sale for $179.95. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member WilliamMunny63 for sharing this deal.

Kit Includes:
  • KME Knife Sharpening System Jig
  • Large Hardshell Case
  • KME Gold Series X-Coarse Hone - 140 grit
  • KME Gold Series Coarse Hone - 300 grit
  • KME Gold Series Fine Hone - 600 Grit
  • KME Gold Series Extra Fine Hone - 1500 grit
  • 1oz Water Bottle
  • Stop collar
  • 12 x 12 Cotton Cleaning Cloth
  • Detailed Instructions
  • Base
  • Made in USA

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • Rated 4.7 out of 5 stars from BladeHQ customers.
  • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $40 lower than the next best available comparable prices starting from $219.95. -SaltyOne
  • About KnifeJoy: We are an Authorized Dealer. Be confident when buying from KnifeJoy that all purchases will be authentic and come with all factory warranties and packaging
  • Please see the original post for additional details & refer to the forum thread for discussion. 

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Absolutely, probably more. Now you did ask a very loaded question, that people write books about but I will hit the main points.

1. KME stones are diamond and Lansky are natural. Natural stones can not sharpen modern hard steels (M4, K390, 10V, 15V, Maxamet, Rex 121, etc.) as the carbides in the steel are harder than the stone leading to tearing them our vs. sharpening them. Diamond will also cut faster.

2. KME stones are twice as wide as Lansky. This has two benefits, first faster sharpening, second less damage to the stone as the pressure is much more distributed.

3. KME has a range of angles while Lansky has only a few fixed angles. Knives come from the factory at odd angles like 16, 18, 21, etc. Lansky could not sharpen at these angle, and you would need to reprofile the knife. Other knife companies have different factory angles.

4. KME uses a thicker guide rod than Lansky. The thin rod will flex, only a degree or two, but this will lead to a convex edge. Fine if you're looking for that but if you're get one of these systems to make a fixed edge at an exact angle.

5. KME has a small hole for the rod to slide through while Lansky has a large oval hole leading to more user mistakes and a less consistent edge.

That is my quick run down. Lansky is fine, will work decently on any sub $100 knife, but KME is much better. Is it worth the $120 extra is totally dependent on your knives, steels, sharpening habits and expectations.

If anyone is looking for an easy, non knife person, sharpener under $100, I would highly recomend the Sharpmaker by Spyderco. It can maintain a sharp knife pretty easy. This KME is for reprofiling an edge, fixing chips, and bring a knife back to factory sharp after extended use.
I like Work Sharp too and have used their diamond free hand system with good results. No issues sharpening even Maxamet (extremely hard steel) on their diamond stones. About 8 years old now and has held up.

Work Sharp does make a competitive product with the KME, the Precision Adjust, but is pretty consistently $250.
Thank you for the reply, I've had a Lansky for years but haven't used it much since I bought a Ken Onion Work Sharp sharpener.

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Is it really $120 better than the Lansky? In addition, the Lansky has five stones.

https://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Sha...106&sr=8-2
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Is it really $120 better than the Lansky? In addition, the Lansky has five stones.

https://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Sha...106&sr=8-2
Absolutely, probably more. Now you did ask a very loaded question, that people write books about but I will hit the main points.

1. KME stones are diamond and Lansky are natural. Natural stones can not sharpen modern hard steels (M4, K390, 10V, 15V, Maxamet, Rex 121, etc.) as the carbides in the steel are harder than the stone leading to tearing them our vs. sharpening them. Diamond will also cut faster.

2. KME stones are twice as wide as Lansky. This has two benefits, first faster sharpening, second less damage to the stone as the pressure is much more distributed.

3. KME has a range of angles while Lansky has only a few fixed angles. Knives come from the factory at odd angles like 16, 18, 21, etc. Lansky could not sharpen at these angle, and you would need to reprofile the knife. Other knife companies have different factory angles.

4. KME uses a thicker guide rod than Lansky. The thin rod will flex, only a degree or two, but this will lead to a convex edge. Fine if you're looking for that but if you're get one of these systems to make a fixed edge at an exact angle.

5. KME has a small hole for the rod to slide through while Lansky has a large oval hole leading to more user mistakes and a less consistent edge.

That is my quick run down. Lansky is fine, will work decently on any sub $100 knife, but KME is much better. Is it worth the $120 extra is totally dependent on your knives, steels, sharpening habits and expectations.

If anyone is looking for an easy, non knife person, sharpener under $100, I would highly recomend the Sharpmaker by Spyderco. It can maintain a sharp knife pretty easy. This KME is for reprofiling an edge, fixing chips, and bring a knife back to factory sharp after extended use.
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Quote from WilliamMunny63 :
Absolutely, probably more. Now you did ask a very loaded question, that people write books about but I will hit the main points.

1. KME stones are diamond and Lansky are natural. Natural stones can not sharpen modern hard steels (M4, K390, 10V, 15V, Maxamet, Rex 121, etc.) as the carbides in the steel are harder than the stone leading to tearing them our vs. sharpening them. Diamond will also cut faster.

2. KME stones are twice as wide as Lansky. This has two benefits, first faster sharpening, second less damage to the stone as the pressure is much more distributed.

3. KME has a range of angles while Lansky has only a few fixed angles. Knives come from the factory at odd angles like 16, 18, 21, etc. Lansky could not sharpen at these angle, and you would need to reprofile the knife. Other knife companies have different factory angles.

4. KME uses a thicker guide rod than Lansky. The thin rod will flex, only a degree or two, but this will lead to a convex edge. Fine if you're looking for that but if you're get one of these systems to make a fixed edge at an exact angle.

5. KME has a small hole for the rod to slide through while Lansky has a large oval hole leading to more user mistakes and a less consistent edge.

That is my quick run down. Lansky is fine, will work decently on any sub $100 knife, but KME is much better. Is it worth the $120 extra is totally dependent on your knives, steels, sharpening habits and expectations.

If anyone is looking for an easy, non knife person, sharpener under $100, I would highly recomend the Sharpmaker by Spyderco. It can maintain a sharp knife pretty easy. This KME is for reprofiling an edge, fixing chips, and bring a knife back to factory sharp after extended use.
Thank you for the reply, I've had a Lansky for years but haven't used it much since I bought a Ken Onion Work Sharp sharpener.
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Quote from loveless13 :
Thank you for the reply, I've had a Lansky for years but haven't used it much since I bought a Ken Onion Work Sharp sharpener.
I like Work Sharp too and have used their diamond free hand system with good results. No issues sharpening even Maxamet (extremely hard steel) on their diamond stones. About 8 years old now and has held up.

Work Sharp does make a competitive product with the KME, the Precision Adjust, but is pretty consistently $250.
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its a clamp and bunch of diamond stones with a fixable angle?
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Is there an Aliexpress version of this? Smilie
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Quote from eliot :
its a clamp and bunch of diamond stones with a fixable angle?
Correct a fixed angle sharpener. Good for reprofileing and fixing damaged/highly worn knife edges. Also very user friendly vs free hand.

This is overkill for most people but does a great job.
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Quote from term :
Is there an Aliexpress version of this? Smilie
Tons of clones out there for short money. Biggest issue would be quality of stones, but with basic steel like 440C or D2 it's not a huge deal.
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Nobody is really saying whether or not this is a good price for this...

Can someone in the know chime in whether or not this is a slick deal?
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Quote from MultiMatrix :
Nobody is really saying whether or not this is a good price for this...

Can someone in the know chime in whether or not this is a slick deal?
This is a slick deal. But they're coming out with a 6" version shortly, so that could be the reason for the sale.
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This is a slick deal. But they're coming out with a 6" version shortly, so that could be the reason for the sale.
Think it's already out on their website, KME Precision Control Plus, for $475.
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Is it really $120 better than the Lansky? In addition, the Lansky has five stones.

https://www.amazon.com/Lansky-Sha...106&sr=8-2
With regards to the number of stones... More stones generally means more steps and more work to get a sharp edge. This is especially true with good diamond stones, you really only need a few abrasive sizes and a maybe a strop to get a shaving sharp edge, if you can consistently hone at a specific repeatable bevel angle.

If you're not getting a sharp edge with a system like this, you're probably not honing to the apex- IOW you're not set at the same angle as the bevel on the blade. Tip: Use a sharpie along the edge of the blade so you can see whether you're removing it across the whole bevel to the edge. Start with a fine stone with light pressure when doing this because it'll remove the ink more cleanly, allowing you to see whether you're adjusted to the same angle, and if not, you won't be removing much steel /creating a new angle bevel. Once set, switch to the medium or coarse stone (depending on how dull or mangled the edge is).
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I have two of these sets and a couple years ago bought a $900 Hampstone R2 Black and stones. If the hapstone can achieve a 10 out of 10 edge, the KME is a 9 and does an amazing job for 80% less money.

I definitely recommend this set up. If you have an ADD type obsession with getting a razor sharp edge, the KME is great choice for the money.
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Quote from brianb4299 :
I have two of these sets and a couple years ago bought a $900 Hampstone R2 Black and stones. If the hapstone can achieve a 10 out of 10 edge, the KME is a 9 and does an amazing job for 80% less money.

I definitely recommend this set up. If you have an ADD type obsession with getting a razor sharp edge, the KME is great choice for the money.
Great to hear, for the money I think this is hard to beat. Surprised it had not hit the Frontpage yet.

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Quote from eliot :
its a clamp and bunch of diamond stones with a fixable angle?
That is precisely what it is.

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