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expired Posted by Didyousayfree • Jul 9, 2024
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75" TCL 75Q650G Class Q Class 4K QLED HDR Smart TV w/ Google TV
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While a 120Hz TV doesn't inherently produce better motion, it can provide a few advantages over standard 60Hz TVs. One of the most important advantages is the ability to play back content that is meant to be displayed at 24 fps, which is often found in movies. Most TVs can simply lower their own refresh rate to 24Hz when the content is 24 fps, but some sources, such as Chromecast, output video at 60 fps, even if the content is 24 fps. This means that the TV's refresh rate remains at 60Hz, and motion won't appear smooth, which is an effect called judder. A 60Hz TV has trouble removing 24 fps judder because 60 isn't a multiple of 24. To display this type of content, a technique known as a "3:2 pulldown" is used. Basically, 12 of the 24 frames repeat three times, while the other 12 repeat twice, totaling 60 frames. Not everybody notices this, but it causes some scenes, notably panning shots, to appear juddery. However, 120Hz TVs have an advantage here because they can simply display each frame five times since 120 is a multiple of 24.
also when you say "garbage tvs" is it for this specific model, or any of the thousands of other models from years past? Things change so I'd like to hear where your opinion is formed from.
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What I'm getting at is, Do we know it's a problem with the tv and not an issue with a power surge? Thanks for the advice of getting the warranty.
While a 120Hz TV doesn't inherently produce better motion, it can provide a few advantages over standard 60Hz TVs. One of the most important advantages is the ability to play back content that is meant to be displayed at 24 fps, which is often found in movies.
Rtings review here https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...q650g-qled gives this 6 series a 7.8:
"The scoring for the judder test is based on which sources the TV can remove judder from. It scores 5.6 if it removes it from native 24p sources and 7.8 if it also removes it from native apps. Most TVs that remove it from 24p sources can also remove it from native apps, but there are a few exceptions. The TV receives a perfect score (10) if it removes judder from any source."
"The TCL Q6 QLED removes 24p judder from 24p signals, like movies, and from native sources, like apps or Blu-ray players, but it can't properly remove judder from 60Hz sources." <-- Google TV plugged into HDMI
Since I will be playing movies through a hooked up GoogleTV set at 60hz, it probably won't remove judder from 24p sources on kodi. But to be honest, I watch only the newest movies at h.265 60hz anyway. So the judder likely won't bother me most of the time.
Edit: OH!! This tv actually comes with "Google TV Smart OS" so maybe I don't even need to use my Onn GoogleTV box nor a GoogleTV plugged into hdmi, the native CPU has googleTV built in! So that means that judder can be removed with kodi using the on-board cpu. Even better.
What I'm getting at is, Do we know it's a problem with the tv and not an issue with a power surge? Thanks for the advice of getting the warranty.
Seriously though your post sounds like a rant rather than being backed by data. If this is your personal anecdote from one TV that's fine, but you would be more compelling if you cite reviews or lists of common complaints for this model of TV.
You can do it!
Anyway, maybe not related to this tv because the only thing in common is the TCL branding.
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If you're worried about it, you can get a warranty from TCL that even covers you dropping the thing. Cheap too.
The 4k 120hz gaming is the only thing I might need 120 for, otherwise 60hz is just fine for most content today.
Then there's Xbox (series x/s): https://www.windowscent
But yes in terms of media content there really isn't much 120 frames per second (commercially anyways), so perhaps someone is trying to future-proof their purchase or as you/I stated they are a PC/console owner, with console owners who are able to use 120fps being MUCH more common (Sony for example has sold 19m ps5s in the US as of March...)
Rtings review here https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...q650g-qled [rtings.com] gives this 6 series a 7.8:
"The scoring for the judder test is based on which sources the TV can remove judder from. It scores 5.6 if it removes it from native 24p sources and 7.8 if it also removes it from native apps. Most TVs that remove it from 24p sources can also remove it from native apps, but there are a few exceptions. The TV receives a perfect score (10) if it removes judder from any source."
"The TCL Q6 QLED removes 24p judder from 24p signals, like movies, and from native sources, like apps or Blu-ray players, but it can't properly remove judder from 60Hz sources." <-- Google TV plugged into HDMI
Since I will be playing movies through a hooked up GoogleTV set at 60hz, it probably won't remove judder from 24p sources on kodi. But to be honest, I watch only the newest movies at h.265 60hz anyway. So the judder likely won't bother me most of the time.
Edit: OH!! This tv actually comes with "Google TV Smart OS" so maybe I don't even need to use my Onn GoogleTV box nor a GoogleTV plugged into hdmi, the native CPU has googleTV built in! So that means that judder can be removed with kodi using the on-board cpu. Even better.
Caveat: I did uninstall the bloatware apps that I will never use like Netflix/hulu.
Your experience of "They're terribly slow" on "these things" is probably from past experience, but this TV seems really snappy with Kodi and smarttubenext.