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Yamaha Motor has Yamaha YDX-MORO Electric Bike (3 Sizes, Desert Yellow) w/ Extra Battery + 5-Year Extended Battery Warranty for $4799 - $2880 in-cart discount = $1919. Shipping is free (select locations).
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Written by StrawMan86 | Staff- Free 2nd battery promotion applies to new customers that purchased a YDX-MORO 07 SE, YDX-MORO 07, YDX-MORO Pro, YDX-MORO 05, YDX-MORO, CrossCore RC, or Wabash RT between August 23, 2024 and November 4, 2024.
- Upon completion of the warranty registration, a free second battery and battery end cap ($1,400 value) will be shipped directly to the registered owners at no additional charge.
- Five-year factory limited warranty applies to drive unit, battery, and frame and rigid fork for all models that are warranty-registered on or after December 1, 2023.
- Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
- Refer to the original post & forum comments for additional details & discussion.
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Yamaha Motor has Yamaha YDX-MORO Electric Bike (3 Sizes, Desert Yellow) w/ Extra Battery + 5-Year Extended Battery Warranty for $4799 - $2880 in-cart discount = $1919. Shipping is free (select locations).
Thanks to Community Member O-Mart for posting this deal.
Note: Must add to cart to see price. Dealer/Recycling fee may apply to select delivery locations.
Thanks to Community Member O-Mart for posting this deal.
Note: Must add to cart to see price. Dealer/Recycling fee may apply to select delivery locations.
Editor's Notes
Written by StrawMan86 | Staff- Free 2nd battery promotion applies to new customers that purchased a YDX-MORO 07 SE, YDX-MORO 07, YDX-MORO Pro, YDX-MORO 05, YDX-MORO, CrossCore RC, or Wabash RT between August 23, 2024 and November 4, 2024.
- Upon completion of the warranty registration, a free second battery and battery end cap ($1,400 value) will be shipped directly to the registered owners at no additional charge.
- Five-year factory limited warranty applies to drive unit, battery, and frame and rigid fork for all models that are warranty-registered on or after December 1, 2023.
- Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
- Refer to the original post & forum comments for additional details & discussion.
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I have experience servicing these Yamahas and they are excellent bikes with a few minor issues. First and foremost, they run Yamaha motors, which means you're going to need a Yamaha dealer if something goes awry there. I have not yet run into any motor issues in my experience with these, but note that Yamaha dealers are few and far between in some areas.
Another issue is that geometry on these is a little funky. The road and hybrid bikes are built off the same frame that is sized small, medium, and large, but really fits more like medium, medium-large, and real big. Measure out your current ride and verify that it'll fit you before you hit 'order.' I haven't had luck getting people much smaller than 5' 4" on the small size.
The final issue is that they run their own proprietary rear derailleur hanger on many of the frames, which makes a basic repair (rear der hanger replacement) a bit frustrating, as you have to track down the right part from, again, a Yamaha dealer. If you grab one of these bikes, order a couple of spare hangers at the same time, if possible, and make your future repair needs that much easier.
Otherwise, like I said above, bonkers deals.
Regarding the drop bar vs flat bar for the road bikes, looking at the geometry tables, I notice the stack height is pretty low, at least in the largest size. That would make using the drops rather uncomfortable for me. Also, the longer width of the flat bar will provide more stability compared to narrow drop bars, which is something to really consider for a bike that can sustain 28 mph. Just something to think about.
Customer Cash offer good on the following models purchased between August 23, 2024 and November 4, 2024.
$1,800 customer cash on CrossCore RC
$2,040 customer cash on Civante
$2,520 customer cash on Wabash RT
$2,880 customer cash on YDX-MORO
$3,300 customer cash on YDX-MORO Pro
$3,480 customer cash on YDX-MORO 05
$3,840 customer cash on YDX-MORO 07
$3,900 customer cash on YDX-MORO 07 Special Edition
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Wabash RT - gravel, it's OK for city/road too, but because of road handlebar and less weight it's much better for long distance. Much better gearset, gravel GRX series mix, work for long time but more pay to replace.
The choice is clear - Wabash RT, only groupset parts alone cost aprrox.$650.
BTW, there 3rd bike exactly between them by specs and price, CIVANTE - road bike with Tiagra gearset, aprrox.same weight as Wabash.
Very important - in NYC e-bikes must be certified UL 2849, cannot find any info on Yamaha web-site.
Civante isn't on sale
Also wish the crosscore didn't have the front suspension, extra weight and cost for little benefit!
https://www.yamahabicyc
Anyway, for weekday city commute +wekend gravel long trips with loaded bags+backpack Wabash RT much more reasonable.
I wish if it can be equipped at least 500W/120 normal Nm middrive motor (not advertising "max"), throttle mode and belt instead of chain. Because Priority Current have some cons and even in Costco cost now $2200 before tax, only in middle size.
https://www.yamahabicyc
This is what I'm talking about!
Anyway, for weekday city commute +wekend gravel long trips with loaded bags+backpack Wabash RT much more reasonable.
I wish if it can be equipped at least 500W/120 normal Nm middrive motor (not advertising "max"), throttle mode and belt instead of chain. Because Priority Current have some cons and even in Costco cost now $2200 before tax, only in middle size.
But just ask someone to try, for example, Evelo Omega - difference is HUGE. Because 250W/50Nm (not "max" but real) vs 750W/120Nm. Plus Omega have throttle, belt, Enviolo CVT... If full-suspension - Motobecane HAL eBoost M600 with Bafang motor, for example.
Everything is learned by comparison.
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But just ask someone to try, for example, Evelo Omega - difference is HUGE. Because 250W/50Nm (not "max" but real) vs 750W/120Nm. Plus Omega have throttle, belt, Enviolo CVT... If full-suspension - Motobecane HAL eBoost M600 with Bafang motor, for example.
Everything is learned by comparison.
But just ask someone to try, for example, Evelo Omega - difference is HUGE. Because 250W/50Nm (not "max" but real) vs 750W/120Nm. Plus Omega have throttle, belt, Enviolo CVT... If full-suspension - Motobecane HAL eBoost M600 with Bafang motor, for example.
Everything is learned by comparison.
My engineer degree was exactly about electromechanics, it was a long time ago, but still.
And I have some practical experience with electric bicycles.
You can also compare manufacturer's specs, keep in mind whole construction/parts and remember some high school physics lessons.
Digits are important. If Yamaha motors have normal 50Nm torque (I guess, advertised only "max") and Evelo 120Nm - guess which bike will be best at steeple uphill.
Gosh, Yamaha even is embarrassed to publish real torque in own specs . BTW, advertised Bafang too. So, if some brand says "peak/max/up to" torque/power and no real digits - it's mean a lot about this brand.
Yamaha ebikes well-made but badly positioned, their weak motors gives less assist on challenging terrain.
IMHO, almost all Yamaha ebikes not very tempting, except for the weekend fun gravel/road WABASH RT (flat gravel path and moderate climb, not very heavy loaded panniers/backpack).
Discount is good but if only it equal with competitors otherwise price cannot compensate lack of capabilities.
If we talking about full suspension ebikes, much more interesting, for example, Luna X2 Enduro or Superhuman Warrior, I even silent about Wattwagons Hydra or Biktrix Juggernaut.
Yeah, cost approx. the same as Yamaha ebikes without discount but this is absolutely different level of offroad possibilities.
Lower specs of Yamaha/Bosch/etc motors not because of good intentions and genius ideas but because of stupid EU regulations.
Ebike/motor's manufacturers do their best within strict boundaries but it's not comparable with more liberal US and Asian laws.
If Yamaha want to get big piece of US ebike market - better to make at least 500w/750w motors with decent torque, otherwise no big success.
My engineer degree was exactly about electromechanics, it was a long time ago, but still.
And I have some practical experience with electric bicycles.
You can also compare manufacturer's specs, keep in mind whole construction/parts and remember some high school physics lessons.
Digits are important. If Yamaha motors have normal 50Nm torque (I guess, advertised only "max") and Evelo 120Nm - guess which bike will be best at steeple uphill.
Gosh, Yamaha even is embarrassed to say in specs real torque. BTW, advertised Bafang too. So, if some brand says "peak/max/up to" torque/power and no real digits - it's mean a lot about this brand.
Yamaha ebikes well-made but badly positioned, their weak motors give less assist on challenging terrain.
IMHO, almost all Yamaha ebikes not very tempting, except for the weekend fun gravel/road WABASH RT (flat gravel path and moderate climb, not very heavy loaded panniers/backpack).
Discount is good but if only it equal with competitors otherwise price cannot compensate lack of capabilities.
If we talking about full suspension ebikes, much more interesting, for example, Luna X2 Enduro or Superhuman Warrior, I even silent about Wattwagons Hydra or Biktrix Juggernaut.
Yeah, cost approx. the same as Yamaha ebikes without discount but this is absolutely different level of offroad possibilities.
Lower specs of Yamaha/Bosch/etc motors not because of good intentions and genius ideas but because of stupid EU regulations.
Ebike/motor's manufacturers do their best within strict boundaries but it's not comparable with more liberal US and Asian laws.
Gosh, I have family, better to get used car in good condition than expensive ebike. My wife well remember last couple years how I bought top AMD CPU for myself, I don't want to think what she will say from time to time about expensive ebike purchase!
As I told, if someone want to get fun at weekend on gravel trails (and even commute, just change tires) - Yamaha WABASH RT pretty good for $1679.
Just no steeple uphills with full panniers/backpack. Here also can be other brands decent variants, but even if loosing some power - getting 2nd batttery, long warranty, quality, not cheap gravel grouprset, not bad at all.
Other Yamaha models - meh, more interesting competitors for city or totally mad outdoor.
For example, YDX-MORO equipped with SLX groupset, it's good but not XT, for active rides here is real difference, I used both and prefer XT for many years.
If I'll buy it instead of more powerful ebike - I just cannot do same things, harder to get some places, will repair it more often, loosing fun and time/efforts. Not worth it in case of hard terrain, better to pay more (in reasonable limits, family!) and get ebike which can deliver me in totally wild places.
Or even just get non-electric full suspension bike for the part of price, because much less weight instead of little assist 250W/50Nm motor. In this case powerful ebike or lightweight regular bike, otherwise not so interesting.
1. The power is fine and plenty good. Could there be a bigger and stronger motor? Yes, there always could be. But the vast majority of people don't need it or will know the difference. This always reminds me of the power tool talk, where people will argue about how the new Milwaukee is better because it has 5,000lbft of nut busting torque only to ever use it on their lug nuts or suspension which is torqued to 80lbft.
2. Groupsets really don't matter that much and most people won't know the difference or care. The enlightenment curve is applicable here: newbies and very experienced people don't care about groupsets too much, but then the middle of the pack will always argue about groupsets. Groupsets are incremental, and the cost to go up a tier in a set is huge. They mattered a lot more in the past, but these days they matter a lot less.
This is a fire deal. I would be extremely surprised to if you found a deal even remotely close to this for another brand. I think this is only happening because Yamaha isn't an e-bike brand in the US and this is a signal for a change in strategy for them. You won't find a selection or sales price like this for a bicycle brand barring some huge event (eg if Canyon just decided to stop existing, for example)
Gosh, I have family, better to get used car in good condition than expensive ebike. My wife well remember last couple years how I bought top AMD CPU for myself, I don't want to think what she will say from time to time about expensive ebike purchase!
As I told, if someone want to get fun at weekend on gravel trails (and even commute, just change tires) - Yamaha WABASH RT pretty good for $1679.
Just no steeple uphills with full panniers/backpack. Here also can be other brands decent variants, but even if loosing some power - getting 2nd batttery, long warranty, quality, not cheap gravel grouprset, not bad at all.
Other Yamaha models - meh, more interesting competitors for city or totally mad outdoor.
For example, YDX-MORO equipped with SLX groupset, it's good but not XT, for active rides here is real difference, I used both and prefer XT for many years.
If I'll buy it instead of more powerful ebike - I just cannot do same things, harder to get some places, will repair it more often, loosing fun and time/efforts. Not worth it in case of hard terrain, better to pay more (in reasonable limits, family!) and get ebike which can deliver me in totally wild places.
Or even just get non-electric full suspension bike for the part of price, because much less weight instead of little assist 250W/50Nm motor. In this case powerful ebike or lightweight regular bike, otherwise not so interesting.
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