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800W EcoFlow Alternator Charger

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EcoFlow has 800W EcoFlow Alternator Charger on sale for $199. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Esente for sharing this deal.

About this product:
  • Charge while you drive, and stay powered up on the road
  • Charger uses onboard DC-DC converter to restore your EcoFlow power station's energy while you drive
  • 800W turbo alternator, 8x faster than traditional in-vehicle auxiliary power outlets
  • Top up 1kWh in only 1.3 hours
  • A 3-in-1 fast charger, maintainer, and jump starter keeps your battery in mint condition
    • Charge: Use your car's alternator to refuel your portable power station
    • Reverse Charge: Recharge your vehicle starter battery or RV house battery using your portable power station
    • Battery Maintenance: Extends your vehicle starter battery or RV house battery life by using lower electrical current
  • Suitable for a variety of vehicles, including SUVs, pickups, and RVs
  • Expands existing RV house battery capacity
  • 2-year warranty

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  • About this store:
    • Details of EcoFlow's return policy (here).
  • Additional Information:
    • This offer matches the recent FP deal.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and/or view the Wiki and forum comments for further helpful discussion if available.

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EcoFlow has 800W EcoFlow Alternator Charger on sale for $199. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Esente for sharing this deal.

About this product:
  • Charge while you drive, and stay powered up on the road
  • Charger uses onboard DC-DC converter to restore your EcoFlow power station's energy while you drive
  • 800W turbo alternator, 8x faster than traditional in-vehicle auxiliary power outlets
  • Top up 1kWh in only 1.3 hours
  • A 3-in-1 fast charger, maintainer, and jump starter keeps your battery in mint condition
    • Charge: Use your car's alternator to refuel your portable power station
    • Reverse Charge: Recharge your vehicle starter battery or RV house battery using your portable power station
    • Battery Maintenance: Extends your vehicle starter battery or RV house battery life by using lower electrical current
  • Suitable for a variety of vehicles, including SUVs, pickups, and RVs
  • Expands existing RV house battery capacity
  • 2-year warranty

Editor's Notes

Written by SubZero5 | Staff
  • About this store:
    • Details of EcoFlow's return policy (here).
  • Additional Information:
    • This offer matches the recent FP deal.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and/or view the Wiki and forum comments for further helpful discussion if available.

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This device connects to a vehicle electrical system (the alternator) and cranks out a higher power output than the normal vehicle wiring would be capable of.

It is useful to charge power centers like the Ecoflow units faster than the typical 100W or so you'd get from a cigarette lighter plug style adapter you find in most vehicles (or RVs).
3JABO
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>If you have a Ecoflow battery bank

Ok. Got it.

>you can use this to quick charge using your vehicle/RV charging system

Wait, you've lost me.

>to charge an Ecoflow battery bank.

I'm sorry, I can charge the thing I am trying to charge by using the thing I am trying to charge to charge itself?
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Bought this on Prime Day plus Delta 2 for total $650. Have everything setup and ready for next hurricane power outage. A few things to share:

Don't have to connect directly to starter battery. But better be sure wherever you connect this to can handle 800W+. I connected this to the battery service terminal under the hood. Starter battery is under the trunk floor in the back. There's a 175A fuse inline to service terminal so more than enough amperage to handle this. The included 16ft cable is 6AWG with 125A fuse. Ring terminals are M8 size.
Normal starter battery voltage is <13V. Once engine starts, alternator ups that voltage to >13V. Once engine shuts off, voltage drops back to <13V. Default setting on this would prevent drawing any power from your battery while engine is off. Once engine starts, this automatically begins charging your power station. Once engine shuts off, this automatically stops drawing power to keep your battery from getting drained. This start/shutoff voltage setting can be customized in the app but default worked for me out of the box.
In case your starter battery is drained and cannot start the car, this can go in reverse and use your power station to charge your starter battery. This is done with just a simple tap in the app.
On EV or certain hybrids with no alternators, this still works (and better IMO). The car uses DC-DC converter to reduce 400/800V traction battery down to operate 12V devices and to charge the starter battery. This is also a DC-DC converter that increases 12V to 60V to charge your power station. This hardly puts strain on the car's DC-DC converter as long as it can handle additional 800W+ load. You can always lower from 800W draw from this in the app by swiping left or right.
This can work on non-EcoFlow power stations via solar input at 60V/500W max, provided you DIY your own cable (supposedly official EF cable is on the way): https://youtube.com/shorts/uVBrNY...I80vRe-bdV

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Sep 10, 2024 05:39 PM
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cameronfieldSep 10, 2024 05:39 PM
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Quote from CyanCorn8418 :
I'm glad you're asking these questions because I'm trying to sort all of these things out too, there's so much buzz around it making it sound like it's somehow giving you free energy or something.

I've read elsewhere that this utilizes the "excess energy" from the alternator of a vehicle as if you're somehow scraping energy that's otherwise unused... that doesn't sound right at all but comments like that in various other places and all the hype makes it misleading.

overall I think this is just something that lets you charge your unit much more quickly when out on the road and you don't have access to an AC outlet that can output high enough... it's not something that helps save money, you're not going to be getting "free" energy from "excess energy" from your alternator or anything like that.
I'm not sure where or how you got the idea of free energy. The entire point of this product is that it will charge the unit 10x faster than a regular 12v car plug. That's basically it. This is useful if you run things in your vehicle that use more than 100w consistently, things like a fridge, power tools, etc. This lets you recharge with the max 800-1000w of power. If you won't have sun, or won't be driving much, it can be very useful. For example - were going camping for a week, won't be driving much, and I have an electric fridge I'm bringing. I have a solar panel, but this accessory would be great peace of mind to always keep the unit at 100%.
Sep 10, 2024 05:41 PM
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madmax718Sep 10, 2024 05:41 PM
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Quote from SubZero5 :
EcoFlow has 800W EcoFlow Alternator Charger on sale for $199. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Esente for sharing this deal.

About this product:
  • Charge while you drive, and stay powered up on the road
  • Charger uses onboard DC-DC converter to restore your EcoFlow power station's energy while you drive
  • 800W turbo alternator, 8x faster than traditional in-vehicle auxiliary power outlets
  • Top up 1kWh in only 1.3 hours
  • A 3-in-1 fast charger, maintainer, and jump starter keeps your battery in mint condition
    • Charge: Use your car's alternator to refuel your portable power station
    • Reverse Charge: Recharge your vehicle starter battery or RV house battery using your portable power station
    • Battery Maintenance: Extends your vehicle starter battery or RV house battery life by using lower electrical current
  • Suitable for a variety of vehicles, including SUVs, pickups, and RVs
  • Expands existing RV house battery capacity
  • 2-year warranty


Deal Editor's Notes & Price Research:
  • About this store:
    • Details of EcoFlow's return policy (here).
  • Additional Information:
    • This offer matches the recent FP deal.
    • Please see the original post for additional details and/or view the Wiki and forum comments for further helpful discussion if available.
Thanks! I missed out on this last time... was kicking myself.
Sep 10, 2024 05:42 PM
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CyanCorn8418Sep 10, 2024 05:42 PM
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Quote from cameronfield :
I'm not sure where or how you got the idea of free energy. The entire point of this product is that it will charge the unit 10x faster than a regular 12v car plug. That's basically it. This is useful if you run things in your vehicle that use more than 100w consistently, things like a fridge, power tools, etc. This lets you recharge with the max 800-1000w of power. If you won't have sun, or won't be driving much, it can be very useful. For example - were going camping for a week, won't be driving much, and I have an electric fridge I'm bringing. I have a solar panel, but this accessory would be great peace of mind to always keep the unit at 100%.
I mentioned in my comment - people are mentioning "excess energy" by the alternator. There's no such thing.

I can get the hype if you don't have panels or in a place where you don't have a lot of sun. Way faster to use something this to charge your device then.
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Quote from CyanCorn8418 :
I mentioned in my comment - people are mentioning "excess energy" by the alternator. There's no such thing.

I can get the hype if you don't have panels or in a place where you don't have a lot of sun. Way faster to use something this to charge your device then.
Excess energy *capacity* would be the distinction. You're correct that it's definitely not free and you'll burn more fuel in the process of generating that additional energy. It also puts a not-insignificant amount of additional wear on the vehicle's alternator.

But for those that need it, it's definitely a useful device and a solid price point for it.
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madmax718Sep 10, 2024 05:44 PM
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Quote from 3JABO :
>If you have a Ecoflow battery bank

Ok. Got it.

>you can use this to quick charge using your vehicle/RV charging system

Wait, you've lost me.

>to charge an Ecoflow battery bank.

I'm sorry, I can charge the thing I am trying to charge by using the thing I am trying to charge to charge itself?
Kinda, yes. The alternator charger manages the connectivity. When the vehicle is on, it will charge the ecoflow Delta series (those with the xt150 connectors, and maybe those with the adapters).

In a pinch, if your vehicle battery was weak or not enough to start, the alternator charger can reverse the flow, and allow the delta to recharge the starter battery.
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coccyxdyniaSep 10, 2024 05:48 PM
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Quote from bandersnatch :
This is the "real" product page, with more description: https://us.ecoflow.com/products/8...or-charger [ecoflow.com]
Ahhh okay now I understand, so you connect directly to the alternator. Makes sense now.
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turboc20Sep 10, 2024 05:51 PM
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No. Car alternator is much more precious than EcoFlow anything (consider labor to repair).
This thing puts too much stress on the alternator.
Last edited by turboc20 September 10, 2024 at 11:53 AM.
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Norse0223Sep 10, 2024 05:51 PM
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Quote from cameronfield :
Yes, that is correct. Lots of install videos out there, seems easy overall.
I watched one video where he only hooked up the alternator charger externally and charged during idling.
Not sure if this will really work without some RPM.
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madmax718Sep 10, 2024 05:51 PM
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Quote from CyanCorn8418 :
I'm glad you're asking these questions because I'm trying to sort all of these things out too, there's so much buzz around it making it sound like it's somehow giving you free energy or something.

I've read elsewhere that this utilizes the "excess energy" from the alternator of a vehicle as if you're somehow scraping energy that's otherwise unused... that doesn't sound right at all but comments like that in various other places and all the hype makes it misleading.

overall I think this is just something that lets you charge your unit much more quickly when out on the road and you don't have access to an AC outlet that can output high enough... it's not something that helps save money, you're not going to be getting "free" energy from "excess energy" from your alternator or anything like that.

And, from what I saw with this, yes - you'll need to wire this up to go through/around a firewall somewhere on your vehicle
No such thing as free energy, any energy generated by the alternator used for recharging always has a resistive force which must be overcome by using engine power.

It is as you say, a smart charger. It has some smarts to not charge when the engine isnt on/isnt driving. It is also adjustable in how many watts to charge it at. Mind you most vehicle alternators are 100A or higher nowadays, thus 100A= 1200 watts, more or less.

Could you recharge from your 12V outlet? Yes. Its capped somewhere around 8A at 12V, so less than 100w.

Keep in mind this unit is only compatible with the ones with the ecoflow xt150 connector. Anything else is not compatible. However this keeps your solar/dc xt150 ports free.
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madmax718Sep 10, 2024 05:52 PM
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Quote from Norse0223 :
I watched one video where he only hooked up the alternator charger externally and charged during idling.
Not sure if this will really work without some RPM.
It will. But I don't recommend it. The problem isn't so much the alternator cant work, its the problem that a lot of alternators don't have thermal management. Without movement and air flow, the alternator will easily burn out.
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madmax718Sep 10, 2024 05:58 PM
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Quote from technologiq :
Assuming you have an RV usually without house batteries (but will work with them too)
You use an EcoFlow battery bank.
You want to charge your EcoFlow Battery bank faster than a 110v hookup.
Think of this as a second alternator making the electricity to power your battery bank but faster than if you were just using 12v->110v inverter.

This will not charge faster than a 110v hookup, as many of the deltas can charge at over 1000w . Delta 2 charge at 1200, delta 2 max charges at 1800.

All it is really doing is boosting the 12V@65A to something like 60V@12A. (rough numbers, I don't know for sure, but the process is correct).

This isn't inverting anything, its boosting.
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madmax718Sep 10, 2024 06:09 PM
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Quote from turboc20 :
No. Car alternator is much more precious than EcoFlow anything (consider labor to repair).
This thing puts too much stress on the alternator.
Depends on your alternator. The stress of the alternator is namely due to the heat build up, and the max percentage of the alternator power.

If you have a modern vehicle with power lift gates, infotainment, heated seats, etc, you will most likely have a 150amp or higher alternator, which can push above 1500W easily.
Most of that is used in the very beginning after starting up to replenish the battery.

the inputs are adjustable. So you don't have to do the full 800 if you don't want to.
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jimtran93Sep 10, 2024 06:10 PM
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Anyone else noticed that it is a different product listing page than the normal 800W Alternator Charger (which still has the normal $599 price, and this one says "Recommend" in the name of the product? Did they mistype "Refurbished" or "Reconditioned"? 🤨
Sep 10, 2024 06:13 PM
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madmax718Sep 10, 2024 06:13 PM
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Quote from turboc20 :
No. Car alternator is much more precious than EcoFlow anything (consider labor to repair).
This thing puts too much stress on the alternator.
All things considered, most alternators either A: burn out (electronics) or B. Brushes are worn out, or C. some other mechanical failure like bearings etc.

Electronics will go when pushed too hard when hot. Brushes will wear out regardless of load. Sometimes, failure is just due to age. Very few alternators die within the first 5 years of ownership. Alternators for HD vehicles run with no issues like emergency vehicles, and they have constant load.

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OlivePenguin524Sep 10, 2024 06:19 PM
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Quote from turboc20 :
No. Car alternator is much more precious than EcoFlow anything (consider labor to repair).
This thing puts too much stress on the alternator.
I think it all depends on what your vehicle is. This is made for RV's which already have a better alternator than what a car would have.

But yes, if you're using this on a small van, it could put too much load on your alternator.

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