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I bought this deal 2 days ago but I've decided to cancel before it ships and getting the Yamaha CrossCore RC deal instead. Here's why:
According to Engwe's official website, Wellbots is an unauthorized seller[engwe-bikes.com]. This means that the bike won't get Engwe's 1 year warranty. Wellbots doesn't have a warranty on this bike either, and the return policy states a 15% restocking fee. I was thinking that I could get on Amex's credit card extended warranty protection, but it does not cover motorized vehicles.
Although the Yamaha ebike is $1200 and Engwe is $600, it comes with an extra battery that is $1400 retail. This battery could easily be resold and cover the cost difference. Plus, Yamaha has a 5 year warranty.
There's very high praise for the Yamaha Crosscore brand which has been around since 2018. Yamaha invented the pedal assist bike 30 years ago. All the bike's components are built by Yamaha. Engwe is just some rebranded generic chinese bikes. There's a lot of Youtube reviews of the Engwe EP 2 Pro where the reviewer seems to be paid to give a good review. The Engwe subreddit seems to have a more negative sentiment towards the brand.
There are Yamaha dealers around me who can do warranty work. Even if I somehow received Engwe warranty, I would have to ship the bike or work on it myself.
Yamaha only weighs 53lb, is superior mid-drive, no ghost pedaling with 9 gears, no awkward geometry, no deadly front fenders.
Unless you are rich an have spare money that you usually use to light cigars 1500 for a 50% non operate able vehicle sounds far passed the only reason much of anyone wants these. A car can be driving in rain an snow. (it used to rain in most cities Ive been in but quit this year so maybe we got rid of that pesky stuff) $700 is pushing the value of a not usable 24/7 vehicle. I really doubt most people over 18-27 are interested in anything recreational in life. But I've never known an old person who didn't workout to NOT have workout gear.
Main purpose of these is to elimate cars. I'd get the Yamaha. But that price isn't worth it. I can get cars for less an nice cars for triple that.
Yesterday Sunday I was in the talks with Wellbots to cancel my order. They said that the team would respond today Monday. Today, they said that they needed "confirmation from the warehouse that your product hasn't shipped yet" and will have a response by tomorrow Tuesday. I've also noticed that they changed their return policy to say "Non-returnable: electric bikes".
I've had this bike for about a year, and I mostly love it. Ridden ~650 miles, longest it's ever lasted me is just over 20 miles with a lot of downhill. Probably 10-15 flat miles is a realistic expectation. It is heavy, it is harder to get on than a step through style. Folding it isn't a breeze but is very handy to fit in almost any vehicle.
I only have a 2 mile commute to work but it is mostly uphill, and some steep hills at that. Would this bike work for that purpose and what mph would you get going uphill? Also, I assume you can just lock these bikes on a bike rack like a normal bike?
I've had this bike for about a year, and I mostly love it. Ridden ~650 miles, longest it's ever lasted me is just over 20 miles with a lot of downhill. Probably 10-15 flat miles is a realistic expectation. It is heavy, it is harder to get on than a step through style. Folding it isn't a breeze but is very handy to fit in almost any vehicle.
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Main purpose of these is to elimate cars. I'd get the Yamaha. But that price isn't worth it. I can get cars for less an nice cars for triple that.
Here was their return policy on 9/22: http://web.archive.org/web/202409...urn-policy
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