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Refurb Linksys Routers: 2-Pack MX8000 Tri-Band AX4000 WiFi 6 Mesh Router System

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Woot! has select Refurbished Linksys Routers (Factory Reconditioned) on sale below when you apply promo code LINKSYSFIVE during checkout. Shipping is free for Amazon Prime Members (must login with your Amazon account and select a shipping address in order for Woot to apply free shipping) or is otherwise $6 per order.

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Woot! has select Refurbished Linksys Routers (Factory Reconditioned) on sale below when you apply promo code LINKSYSFIVE during checkout. Shipping is free for Amazon Prime Members (must login with your Amazon account and select a shipping address in order for Woot to apply free shipping) or is otherwise $6 per order.

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  • Promo code is limit one coupon use per customer. Valid through 10/13/2024 at 11:59pm CT or while supplies last.
  • Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
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Christian09
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From what i can find this kit is 2 MX4000 (AX4000) or MX4200 (AX4200). On Woot it says MX8000 (AX4000) but in the description says MX8400 (AX4200). All 3 are pretty much the same device with only a couple differences.

Range - Same on all (2700 sq ft)
CPU - Same on all (Qualcom IPQ8174)
RAM - MX4000/MX4200 could have either 512MB (V1) or 1GB (V2) and LN1301(MX4300) has 2GB
Antennas - Appears to be the same on all (8 internal)
Wifi Speeds - 2.5Ghz same on all, 5Ghz 2x2 same on all, 5Ghz 4x4 the MX4000 only can do up to 2200mbps while the MX4200/LN1301 can do 2400mbps

Another thing to mention is that the LN1301 actually has 1GB of flash. From what i can find on all models its split into two partitions each containing a copy of the firmware. After 5 failed boots it switches to the secondary/backup partition to boot. So usable flash on MX4000/MX4200 should be 256MB and LN1301 is 512MB.
CharlesCCC
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if my guess is correct the (MX8400) is two Mx4200 pack, and my suggestion is NOT getting those.
because I had purchased the three pack version AX12600 (3 * Mx4200). It is terrible. The mesh connection always slow and not able to connect.

then I read the review says, there are two version of this v1 & v2 , apparently the v1 i having a lots of issues (the one I got). v2 might have fixed it, but there is no way knowing which version you got until you received it.
flyingroach
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Well this removes some of my "SD high" from the ln1301 but that still was fun buying too many and finding they actually work well.

Can these really be refub or just label refurb once foxcon belkin learned how quickly woot sold the others?

Can't imagine people still need WiFi upgrade after all the deals but maybe. If staying on stock these are probably safer to assume updates.

I'm still happy with my LN1301 still on stock for now

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aakashsurya
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Quote from SeriousLlama437 :
All show sold out.
Not really. Just the deal ended. All were available until the last minute. This deal will most likely come around again.
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Quote from NikoZ :
here is my setup instructions if you wanna try it.Yea it's super easy on the stock firmware for the ln13011-Setup your Main router completely. 192.168.1.1 is the default addy. If you want to use these Linksys mesh routers in bridge mode set it in the ipv4 drop down under the connectivity menu on the left of the main menu before adding the child nodes.2-Plug your child node using the wan port to the main router's lan port, wait for a solid purple light on the child node before proceeding3-Log into your main router web admin. 4-Click on CA at the bottom right.5-Click on Connectivity and CA Router setup.6-Click on both Add Wired and Add Wireless nodes buttons. Wait for the Add wireless button to re-enable.7-Now the child node light should start flashing purple and turn into a mesh mode when it turns blue.8-Click Done adding Child Nodes and then Apply.9- Power off child node and move child node to desired location. If you are using wired backhaul use lan port 3 on child node (not WAN port)10-Repeat process for any other child nodes you need to set up.11-Disabled client and node steering in connectivity menu. They just cause problems and impact performance.11-Once complete you can use the Linksys mobile app to confirm if your mesh is setup and using wireless or wired backhaul in the app and change the names of the nodes based on the room you placed them in so you can locate it easily if one goes offline.12-In the app restart the whole network so you can test that it reconverges all nodes automatically and double check that the nodes came online and connected automatically.Pro tip: if using in bridge mode set a static IP for the parent and child nodes to make it easy to access the Linksys management interface and minimize chances of any issues.For instance my glinet router is my main router at 192.168.8.1I set static addresses for Linksys parent node to 192.168.8.2Child node 1 as 192.168.8.3Child node 2 as 192.168.8.4Child node 3 as 192.168.8.5Child node 4 as 192.168.8.6Etc…
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NikoZ
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Quote from PocketsThick :
The entire reason to run the custom firmware is that firmware gets updated. Wireless 6E is not that big of a jump from Wireless 6. Wireless 7 is basically just for early adopters. You're a beta tester with Wireless 7 basically. It's like that every generation of Wifi. The early adopters are waiting for firmware updates to fix all the issues. Oh, and you're a beta tester having to spend like $300+ for just one router. Some people are into that sort of thing. Not my cup of tea.
If you are running these behind an advanced router (like a firewalla or glinet brume2) in bridge mode updates mean nothing you don't need to update the Linksys nodes as they are just dummy mesh AP's at that point.
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Quote from NikoZ :
If you are running these behind an advanced router (like a firewalla or glinet brume2) in bridge mode updates mean nothing you don't need to update the Linksys nodes as they are just dummy mesh AP's at that point.
But then the firewalla/Glinet need to be firmware updated as they aren't without holes either (the brume2 has had 4 firmware updates this year according to their release notes, the device only has 2 ports (wan/lan)).

Adding more devices adds latency, and since most people are gamers that isn't ideal.

These Linksys routers with DD-WRT have firewall and VPN protection. For most home users those controls are enough. DD-WRT will supply security patches over time.

If you're running some server that's outputting tons of data and your life has you constantly traveling the world, then you probably need more control over your network, then dedicated VPN/Firewalls might make sense. You're basically running your home like it's a small business at that point.
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morrowing
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Quote from sam_ay :
What routers do most people use?

Linksys, Netgear, Asus, TP-Link names have been around for so long that I'm not sure if something is better in quality over the others.

Facing router issues for the past 1+ week. Constant signal drops. Trying to see if these cheap routers will just work out of the box.
By this +others reason I switched many years ago from home "Wi-Fi routers" to SMB/SME access points and forgot all that mess.
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NikoZ
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Quote from PocketsThick :
But then the firewalla/Glinet need to be firmware updated as they aren't without holes either (the brume2 has had 4 firmware updates this year according to their release notes, the device only has 2 ports (wan/lan)).

Adding more devices adds latency, and since most people are gamers that isn't ideal.

These Linksys routers with DD-WRT have firewall and VPN protection. For most home users those controls are enough. DD-WRT will supply security patches over time.

If you're running some server that's outputting tons of data and your life has you constantly traveling the world, then you probably need more control over your network, then dedicated VPN/Firewalls might make sense. You're basically running your home like it's a small business at that point.

GLiNet routers have advanced routing, DNS, Firewalls, adguard, and VPN Server and client plus more, all built in the OEM firmwares which are updated frequently and only cost around 60 bucks. They are WAYYYY faster than any custom firmware router to top it off. They actually speed up your network if you use these things as they are stocked with processors and memory that are purpose built for high speed VPN connections and routing.
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Quote from NikoZ :
GLiNet routers have advanced routing, DNS, Firewalls, adguard, and VPN Server and client plus more, all built in the OEM firmwares which are updated frequently and only cost around 60 bucks. They are WAYYYY faster than any custom firmware router to top it off. They actually speed up your network if you use these things as they are stocked with processors and memory that are purpose built for high speed VPN connections and routing.
Well, the Brume 2 uses a dual core processor running at 1.3Ghz speed while the dirt-cheap Linksys MX4300 uses a Quad core processor running at 1.4Ghz.

The Brume 2 is using OpenWrt. It says it on their product listing page on their own website: "Brume 2 runs on open-source OpenWrt firmware". LOL

The Linksys runs on custom firmware too just like the Brume 2. It runs DD-WRT or OpenWRT. I'm sure the Brume 2 does have a custom gui and more add-ons specifically handling VPNs and the like.

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Quote from PocketsThick :
Well, the Brume 2 uses a dual core processor running at 1.3Ghz speed while the dirt-cheap Linksys MX4300 uses a Quad core processor running at 1.4Ghz.

The Brume 2 is using OpenWrt. It says it on their product listing page on their own website: "Brume 2 runs on open-source OpenWrt firmware". LOL

The Linksys runs on custom firmware too just like the Brume 2. It runs DD-WRT or OpenWRT. I'm sure the Brume 2 does have a custom gui and more add-ons specifically handling VPNs and the like.

Processor speed is one tiny piece of the equation it's all about the architecture of the chip and the memory and cache available as well. The dual core processor in the Brume 2 smokes these things. GLiNet Router firmware from the OEM is based on OpenWRT which is what makes them incredible and you get long term support and frequent patches and updates through the manufacturer without having to customize anything. The difference is that the Brume 2 is built open source so the hardware is fully enabled by openWRT. When you load custom firmware on a closed source router you don't have full access to the hardware acceleration and wifi profiles as they are guarded by Linksys proprietary standards and not publicly available. You give up performance for features when switching from stock to custom firmware.
Last edited by NikoZ October 15, 2024 at 09:56 AM.
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Quote from NikoZ :
Processor speed is one tiny piece of the equation it's all about the architecture of the chip and the memory and cache available as well. The dual core processor in the Brume 2 smokes these things. GLiNet Router firmware from the OEM is based on OpenWRT which is what makes them incredible and you get long term support and frequent patches and updates through the manufacturer without having to customize anything. The difference is that the Brume 2 is built open source so the hardware is fully enabled by openWRT. When you load custom firmware on a closed source router you don't have full access to the hardware acceleration and wifi profiles as they are guarded by Linksys proprietary standards and not publicly available. You give up performance for features when switching from stock to custom firmware.
looks like the Brume 2 uses MT7981B which is 2 Cortex-a53 cores
the MX4300 uses IPQ8174 which are 4 cortex-a53 cores.

they customize the cores but even then I seriously doubt 2 a53 cores smokes 4 a53 cores.
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Quote from mcosf :
I need 2 more LN1301. hope they bring back the deal
It'll be back. Just wait for a few weeks.
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NikoZ
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Quote from Timless :
looks like the Brume 2 uses MT7981B which is 2 Cortex-a53 cores
the MX4300 uses IPQ8174 which are 4 cortex-a53 cores.

they customize the cores but even then I seriously doubt 2 a53 cores smokes 4 a53 cores.
You don't get full access to hardware acceleration on custom firmware thats the key.
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Quote from NikoZ :
You don't get full access to hardware acceleration on custom firmware thats the key.
and the Brume 2 does? if they do, then any router using the MT7981B chipset would, too.
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NikoZ
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Quote from Timless :
and the Brume 2 does? if they do, then any router using the MT7981B chipset would, too.
The brume2 runs natively on the firmware, its not custom firmware. Mediatek is known for its compatibility over Qualcomm.
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Can you mesh this deal with LN1031?
Successful mesh with LN1301

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Quote from vaiof1 :
can we buy the MX8000 and mesh with the LN1301? trying to replace the google nest wifi.
Yes, just got mine and they successful joined my LN1301s

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