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Acer Predator Helios 18 (Cert. Refurb): 18" QHD+ 240Hz IPS, i9-14900HX, RTX 4080, 32GB DDR5, 1TB SSD $1774.99

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  • 18" QHD+ (2560x1600, WQXGA+) 16:10. 240Hz 3ms, 500-nits, 100% DCI-P3, DisplayHDR, NVIDIA Advanced Optimus & G-SYNC, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • Intel Core i9-14900HX, 24C (8P + 16E) / 32T, P-core 2.2 / 5.8GHz, E-core 1.6 / 4.1GHz, 36MB
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB GDDR6, Up to 175W, DLSS 3 (Deep Learning Super Sampling), Ray tracing
  • 32GB (2x 16GB) SO-DIMM DDR5
  • 1TB SSD M.2 PCIe 4.0x4 NVMe, 2 x PCIe M.2 Slots
  • Wi-Fi 7 Killer 1750x + BT
  • 1080p FHD Webcam
  • Per-Key RGB Keyboard
  • 90Whr Battery
  • 7.17 lbs.
  • Model: PH18-72-93VM
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (DisplayPort over USB-C, Thunderbolt 4)
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 with HDCP Support
    • 1x RJ-45

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SPECS:
  • 18" QHD+ (2560x1600, WQXGA+) 16:10. 240Hz 3ms, 500-nits, 100% DCI-P3, DisplayHDR, NVIDIA Advanced Optimus & G-SYNC, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • Intel Core i9-14900HX, 24C (8P + 16E) / 32T, P-core 2.2 / 5.8GHz, E-core 1.6 / 4.1GHz, 36MB
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB GDDR6, Up to 175W, DLSS 3 (Deep Learning Super Sampling), Ray tracing
  • 32GB (2x 16GB) SO-DIMM DDR5
  • 1TB SSD M.2 PCIe 4.0x4 NVMe, 2 x PCIe M.2 Slots
  • Wi-Fi 7 Killer 1750x + BT
  • 1080p FHD Webcam
  • Per-Key RGB Keyboard
  • 90Whr Battery
  • 7.17 lbs.
  • Model: PH18-72-93VM
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C (DisplayPort over USB-C, Thunderbolt 4)
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 with HDCP Support
    • 1x RJ-45

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Dec 07, 2024 04:03 AM
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sdAM2012Dec 07, 2024 04:03 AM
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How is this different from when it was 1400-1500$? Is it just the ram? Sad I missed out on that 4090 deal you posted!

Edit: Same Laptop for $1999 at Best Buy
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/acer...Id=6576634
Last edited by sdAM2012 December 6, 2024 at 09:01 PM.
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Dec 07, 2024 04:13 AM
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Dr.W
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Quote from sdAM2012 :
How is this different from when it was 1400-1500$? Is it just the ram? Sad I missed out on that 4090 deal you posted!

Edit:1999 at Best Buy
This one is 18" and that was 16". That's the biggest difference.
Also, this has the newer 14900HX processor while that one had the 13900HX.
Dec 07, 2024 04:27 AM
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sdAM2012Dec 07, 2024 04:27 AM
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Quote from Dr.Wajahat :
This one is 18" and that was 16". That's the biggest difference.
Also, this has the newer 14900HX processor while that one had the 13900HX.
Thanks for the clarity, based on everything you've seen, what are the odds of a 4090 coming into play?
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Quote from sdAM2012 :
Thanks for the clarity, based on everything you've seen, what are the odds of a 4090 coming into play?
Either near Christmas or the next month.
Dec 07, 2024 08:15 AM
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sdAM2012Dec 07, 2024 08:15 AM
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Quote from Dr.Wajahat :
Either near Christmas or the next month.
Thank you, nothing is always certain, but I'm willing to see if a 4090 drops again. hopefully under 2k!
Dec 07, 2024 01:53 PM
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AquaGiraffe967Dec 07, 2024 01:53 PM
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Quote from sdAM2012 :
Thank you, nothing is always certain, but I'm willing to see if a 4090 drops again. hopefully under 2k!
it's only 10% better

4080 lap 25,081

4090 lap 27,711

I'd buy based on cooling. If a laptop thermal throttles after 5 minutes doesn't matter what card you have
Dec 07, 2024 04:21 PM
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sdAM2012Dec 07, 2024 04:21 PM
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Quote from AquaGiraffe967 :
it's only 10% better

4080 lap 25,081

4090 lap 27,711

I'd buy based on cooling. If a laptop thermal throttles after 5 minutes doesn't matter what card you have
Nothing I read showed that thermal throttling performance is worse between the two variants.

And it may only be 10%, but if for the same price, I could get 10% more performance, then why would I ask for 10% less? Especially if thermal throttling is not an issue.

If you have some other information that shows the 4090 throttle worse in the Helios 18, I'm definitely interested! Thank you so much.

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Dec 07, 2024 04:37 PM
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AquaGiraffe967Dec 07, 2024 04:37 PM
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Quote from sdAM2012 :
Nothing I read showed that thermal throttling performance is worse between the two variants.

And it may only be 10%, but if for the same price, I could get 10% more performance, then why would I ask for 10% less? Especially if thermal throttling is not an issue.

If you have some other information that shows the 4090 throttle worse in the Helios 18, I'm definitely interested! Thank you so much.
Weight, battery life, size, other features. That's why
Dec 07, 2024 05:16 PM
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sdAM2012Dec 07, 2024 05:16 PM
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Quote from AquaGiraffe967 :
Weight, battery life, size, other features. That's why
Oh you mean in general, I thought you were referring to specific reasons why the Helio 18 4080 is worth more than then 4090 variant. Looks like you are referring to other laptops in general. Very unlikely at this price point (<2k) to get something that is lighter and retains the same kind of cooling capacity on a 4080/4090.

A friend was recently gifted (I believe) a Razor 14 4070 and he is very unsatisfied with it lol because it sounds like a jet engine according to him.

Yes I do have a "slimmer" older laptop that I currently use - and while I find I take my laptop around occasionally, 95% of the time it stays in place - a heavier laptop isn't an issue for me.woot
Dec 07, 2024 07:44 PM
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camar0rsDec 07, 2024 07:44 PM
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got the 4090 one on ebay for 1,865.99 other day... i see now its sold out... cant complain
Dec 07, 2024 10:53 PM
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DJRobNMDec 07, 2024 10:53 PM
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Quote from camar0rs :
got the 4090 one on ebay for 1,865.99 other day... i see now its sold out... cant complain
https://slickdeals.net/f/17969025-acer-predator-helios-18-cert-refurb-18-qhd-250hz-mini-led-i9-14900hx-rtx-4090-32gb-ddr5-1tb-ssd-1865-99-at-acer-via-ebay?from_da_id=11163524&sdxt01=2024-12-05+17%3A09%3A50&sdxt06=%3A%3A%3A%3A%3A%3Adealalert&sdxt07=120096&utm_source=dealalerts&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=manual&p=174535668&src=da_si_v2_11163524

I was a minute late on that one.

I imagine the extra 4gb of vram (16GB v 12GB) makes it well worth the extra money.
Dec 08, 2024 05:48 AM
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Vesp206Dec 08, 2024 05:48 AM
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the 4090 variant that was on sale has the 250hz miniled panel as well. Definitely worth the $100 premium for 10% more raw performance, more vram (that honestly will probably only matter if hooking it up to a 4k tv/monitor), and a nicer screen.
Dec 08, 2024 12:27 PM
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AquaGiraffe967Dec 08, 2024 12:27 PM
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Quote from sdAM2012 :
Oh you mean in general, I thought you were referring to specific reasons why the Helio 18 4080 is worth more than then 4090 variant. Looks like you are referring to other laptops in general. Very unlikely at this price point (<2k) to get something that is lighter and retains the same kind of cooling capacity on a 4080/4090.

A friend was recently gifted (I believe) a Razor 14 4070 and he is very unsatisfied with it lol because it sounds like a jet engine according to him.

Yes I do have a "slimmer" older laptop that I currently use - and while I find I take my laptop around occasionally, 95% of the time it stays in place - a heavier laptop isn't an issue for me.
I just looked at the 2 models. Other than GPUs nothing notable/noticeable that you will find in day to day use.

Your friend could try underclocking. Might run much cooler and little to no performance loss. Or try a laptop stand with fans
Dec 11, 2024 09:03 PM
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vbp6usDec 11, 2024 09:03 PM
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Quote from sdAM2012 :
Oh you mean in general, I thought you were referring to specific reasons why the Helio 18 4080 is worth more than then 4090 variant. Looks like you are referring to other laptops in general. Very unlikely at this price point (
I bought the Acer 16" Predator w/ the 13th gen I9 and 4080 GPU during pre-black friday. On turbo mode it's like a jet taking off loud. I have a laptop cooler that gets as loud as well. It's a great price but I'm not sure I need a 4080 for the games I play. I think I'd rather get a used 3070 TI laptop and deck it out w/ RAM and fast NVME.

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