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forum thread Posted by greetingsmymaster • Dec 16, 2024
forum thread Posted by greetingsmymaster • Dec 16, 2024

Sony - VPLXW5000ES 4K HDR Laser Home Theater Projector with Native 4K SXRD Panel - Black $4999.99 at Best Buy

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Dec 16, 2024
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Nugent1021
Dec 16, 2024
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Been this price for months
Dec 16, 2024
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av911
Dec 16, 2024
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No 3D.
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Dec 30, 2024
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coolchap
Dec 30, 2024
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Quote from Nugent1021 :
Been this price for months
Damn! The sales guy at Best Buy made it seem like an incredible deal—almost had me sold. But I'm still deciding between this, the LS12000, and the JVC NP5.

LS12000, and Sony 5000 looked similar in the demo. Haven't had a chance to try NP5.

Any suggestions/recommendations?
Dec 30, 2024
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StreetJedi
Dec 30, 2024
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Quote from coolchap :
Damn! The sales guy at Best Buy made it seem like an incredible deal—almost had me sold. But I'm still deciding between this, the LS12000, and the JVC NP5.

LS12000, and Sony 5000 looked similar in the demo. Haven't had a chance to try NP5.

Any suggestions/recommendations?
Np5 if you're ok with bulbs. Better blacks.

Better off getting a lightly used jvc NZ7 for same or less $. Blacks floor, tone mapping, and contrast best in the biz
Dec 30, 2024
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coolchap
Dec 30, 2024
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Quote from StreetJedi :
Np5 if you're ok with bulbs. Better blacks.

Better off getting a lightly used jvc NZ7 for same or less $. Blacks floor, tone mapping, and contrast best in the biz
Thank you, much appreciated
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Jan 25, 2025
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DanDiego2
Jan 25, 2025
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Quote from coolchap :
Damn! The sales guy at Best Buy made it seem like an incredible deal—almost had me sold. But I'm still deciding between this, the LS12000, and the JVC NP5.LS12000, and Sony 5000 looked similar in the demo. Haven't had a chance to try NP5.Any suggestions/recommendations?
I tested all 3 in the magnolia center and ended up taking home the sony and jvc to do my own at home side by side comparison over the course of a month. In the magnolia center the sony and jvc were both noticeably better than the ls12000 but only by a videophiles extreme demands. Neither were professionally calibrated in bestbuy sadly.
The ls12000 isn't as sharp as the sony but has contrast that rivals jvc.
At home, the jvc autocal software saves you $600-1000 for pro calibration but the panel alignment had issues.
The sony looks amazing out of the box but could stand to have some color calibration with the spyderx. The panel alignment was decent.
After putting both through their paces I was amazed at how much better to my eye the sony looked over the jvc. I read the shootout tests in Colorado and was constantly making excuses and rechecking the jvc but whether it was John wick or alien prometheus the sonys sharpness and surprisingly competitive contrast kept me going back to the sony. Even Harry potter assault on hogwarts deep black scenes looked good with finer detail. The jvc had great deep blacks and handled justice league better in contrast but only if playing both side by side.
The final straw was when I struggled with the panel alignment on the jvc. To match up the grid lines perfectly caused some pixel distortions that showed up on the picture noticeably. I had to misalign them to push those pixels off the edge but meant the panels were not perfectly aligned to give me the sharpest possible picture. The sony never had that problem and gave me the sharpest picture.
In the end, I returned both after reading about sonys panel degradation issue which hasn't been verified to be fully resolved and there hasn't been enough test times for the current stock to be considered immune. I would go with the used nz7 or used 6000es
Jan 25, 2025
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PowerfulMagic115
Jan 25, 2025
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Quote from DanDiego2 :
I tested all 3 in the magnolia center and ended up taking home the sony and jvc to do my own at home side by side comparison over the course of a month. In the magnolia center the sony and jvc were both noticeably better than the ls12000 but only by a videophiles extreme demands. Neither were professionally calibrated in bestbuy sadly.
The ls12000 isn't as sharp as the sony but has contrast that rivals jvc.
At home, the jvc autocal software saves you $600-1000 for pro calibration but the panel alignment had issues.
The sony looks amazing out of the box but could stand to have some color calibration with the spyderx. The panel alignment was decent.
After putting both through their paces I was amazed at how much better to my eye the sony looked over the jvc. I read the shootout tests in Colorado and was constantly making excuses and rechecking the jvc but whether it was John wick or alien prometheus the sonys sharpness and surprisingly competitive contrast kept me going back to the sony. Even Harry potter assault on hogwarts deep black scenes looked good with finer detail. The jvc had great deep blacks and handled justice league better in contrast but only if playing both side by side.
The final straw was when I struggled with the panel alignment on the jvc. To match up the grid lines perfectly caused some pixel distortions that showed up on the picture noticeably. I had to misalign them to push those pixels off the edge but meant the panels were not perfectly aligned to give me the sharpest possible picture. The sony never had that problem and gave me the sharpest picture.
In the end, I returned both after reading about sonys panel degradation issue which hasn't been verified to be fully resolved and there hasn't been enough test times for the current stock to be considered immune. I would go with the used nz7 or used 6000es
People pay $600-1000 for others to "pro calibrate" a projector?

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Jan 25, 2025
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pidge
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I do miss the cinema look of projectors (sold my old 4K projector when I moved in 2021 to a smaller house). I have OLED TVs but if you can have a dedicated home theater room, watching movies through a projector is such a different experience.
Jan 25, 2025
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coolchap
Jan 25, 2025
63 Posts
Quote from DanDiego2 :
I tested all 3 in the magnolia center and ended up taking home the sony and jvc to do my own at home side by side comparison over the course of a month. In the magnolia center the sony and jvc were both noticeably better than the ls12000 but only by a videophiles extreme demands. Neither were professionally calibrated in bestbuy sadly.
The ls12000 isn't as sharp as the sony but has contrast that rivals jvc.
At home, the jvc autocal software saves you $600-1000 for pro calibration but the panel alignment had issues.
The sony looks amazing out of the box but could stand to have some color calibration with the spyderx. The panel alignment was decent.
After putting both through their paces I was amazed at how much better to my eye the sony looked over the jvc. I read the shootout tests in Colorado and was constantly making excuses and rechecking the jvc but whether it was John wick or alien prometheus the sonys sharpness and surprisingly competitive contrast kept me going back to the sony. Even Harry potter assault on hogwarts deep black scenes looked good with finer detail. The jvc had great deep blacks and handled justice league better in contrast but only if playing both side by side.
The final straw was when I struggled with the panel alignment on the jvc. To match up the grid lines perfectly caused some pixel distortions that showed up on the picture noticeably. I had to misalign them to push those pixels off the edge but meant the panels were not perfectly aligned to give me the sharpest possible picture. The sony never had that problem and gave me the sharpest picture.
In the end, I returned both after reading about sonys panel degradation issue which hasn't been verified to be fully resolved and there hasn't been enough test times for the current stock to be considered immune. I would go with the used nz7 or used 6000es
Event to consider a used Sony 6000ES, does it not have a panel degradation issue?
Jan 25, 2025
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coolchap
Jan 25, 2025
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Quote from pidge :
I do miss the cinema look of projectors (sold my old 4K projector when I moved in 2021 to a smaller house). I have OLED TVs but if you can have a dedicated home theater room, watching movies through a projector is such a different experience.
Having seen ~100" TVs in the range of $1000 to $2000, would it make sense to drop $5K now only to replace it with a 130" ish TV in a year or two. TVs definitely surpass the black levels.. but does it give immersive experience when watching on 130" screen?
Mar 1, 2025
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DM3056
Mar 1, 2025
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Quote from av911 :
No 3D.
There's not even any movies in 3d anymore.
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av911
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Quote from DM3056 :
There's not even any movies in 3d anymore.
You wanna bet? Ever been in a theater?! 3D Blu-ray are still being made, albeit at a low rate.

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