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StatGear 10" Surviv-All Fixed-Blade Bowie Knife w/ Sheath
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- StatGear survival outdoor knife is a stainless steel full tang knife. This durable knife can handle anything especially the tough outdoors.
- Features a drop point blade equipped with a blade sharpening stone in rear of sheath so your knife is sharp & sturdy consistently.
- Fire starter and cord cutter in sheath. The cord cutter works well for minor cuts so you don't have to take out your knife.
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CurateNYC via Amazon has StatGear 10" Surviv-All Fixed-Blade Bowie Knife w/ Sheath on sale for $21. Shipping is free.
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- StatGear survival outdoor knife is a stainless steel full tang knife. This durable knife can handle anything especially the tough outdoors.
- Features a drop point blade equipped with a blade sharpening stone in rear of sheath so your knife is sharp & sturdy consistently.
- Fire starter and cord cutter in sheath. The cord cutter works well for minor cuts so you don't have to take out your knife.
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- Our research indicates that this offer is $18.99 lower (47% savings) than the next best available price from a reputable merchant with prices starting from $39.99.
- About this store:
- Don't have Amazon Prime? Students can get a free 6-Month Amazon Prime trial with free 2-day shipping, unlimited video streaming & more.
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Here is a sampling of what is known about it and the idea that is some crap steel is in fact crap. It is budget steel but that is different thing. Some of the high end steels can be a real pain in the @ss and not ideal for many situations.
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This video is very informative in shch we can see that Spyderco Byrd feels 440C China steel to be more than acceptable and a great steel.Testing Chinese Knife Steel - Actually Good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7i3q1f
Here is an informative reddit thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/knives/c..._about_it/
Here is Blade Forums thread.
https://www.bladeforums
Another Blade Forums thread.
https://www.bladeforums
User commenting the equivalent of a thesis paper on 440c metal including thesis statement, body, and cited references as a rebuttal to a troll: what a time to be alive.
I give it an A- . While the enthusiasm comes through and the comment was structured, MLA formatting of citations was not followed.
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Here is a sampling of what is known about it and the idea that is some crap steel is in fact crap. It is budget steel but that is different thing. Some of the high end steels can be a real pain in the @ss and not ideal for many situations.
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Properties
Strength: 440C has the highest strength of all the common 440-series stainless steels.
Hardness: 440C can be heat treated to reach a hardness of 58 to 60 HRC.
Wear resistance: 440C has good wear resistance.
Corrosion resistance: 440C has moderate corrosion resistance. It resists corrosion in normal domestic environments and some industrial environments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7i3q1f
Here is an informative reddit thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/knives/c..._about_it/
Edge retention is acceptable, corrosion resistance is great, and it's tough enough for damn near any task short of chopping rocks.
The problem is that it became so common that the cheap makers started using it and half-assing the heat treatment that's necessary to dial it into balance. This resulted in a bad reputation for all kinds of flaws. It's like how d2 is right now, you've got more and more no name makers trying to cash in on its popularity, without putting in the work to get it right.
But, as an example, I have a western w49. 440c, giant frakking bowie. I've cut through logs with the damn thing and still been able to do things like feather kindling. It's a beast. I've had it for something like thirty years, much of which it was the knife I used out in the hills. I've killed aggressive animals with it, cleared brush, cleaned fish, built lean tos, cut fuel wood, dropped it, kicked it, bounced it off of rebar, and even deterred a drunk idiot with it.
It's sitting on my desk right now with no real damage. The blade is still razor sharp, though I've had to polish up the sides so the old scratches didn't provide corrosion points.
That's how good 440c can be, when done right.
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Steel is iron with carbon added for improved hardness
Stainless steel is steel with at least 13% chromium (by weight) added in to ward against rust. (D2 is 12% max, hence why it is called an "almost stainless" tool steel)
As per how 440c stacks up against other "basic" steels;
440c Carbon/Chromium content = 0.95-1.2%/16-18%
8cr14mov has a 0.8/14% max
Aus8 has a 0.75/14.5% max
12c27 has a 0.6/13.5% fixed
Making 440c more hardenable w/ better edge potential, better stain resistance, and higher carbide content for "toothiness".
440c also has more then twice the molybdenum of aus8 and 8cr14mov, (12c27 has 0) improving on toughness and adding slightly more carbides.
Aus8 and 8cr14mov both balance out the "carbide" levels a bit with adding a (very) small amount of the harder carbide Vanadium into the mix;
0.25% max for aus, and 0.15% for 8cr,
and aus8 helps boost its corrosion resistance and a bit of toughness with up to 0.5% nickel, However with the lower carbon content I imagine this nickel content also softens it up just a tad which leads to it's easy sharpening to a wicked sharp edge, but also leads to its common lackluster edge "holding" ability.
They are much more similar to a modified 440a which has the same lower carbon levels as aus8, but still has the higher chromium content of 440; all other factors the same. And even 14c27n is only a slightly lower carbon level 440a with less additives, less chromium, but adds some nitrogen to help improve hardness and corrosion resistance, also the svandik steel methodology boasts it to create a very pure and evenly distributed (consistent) steel ensuring better quality end product.
7cr17 is actually identical to 440a + a little bit of nickel added, whereas good 9cr18mov is more on par with a lower level carbon 440c w/ slightly higher chromium and molybednum levels, + a small bit of vanadium and nickel. Aus10 would be more on par with a vanadium and nickel enhanced 440c with lower chromium levels.
That all said, 440c (with a good heat treat) is still a GREAT basic all arpund stainless steel for baseline knives, and upwards of $100 for a nicer one shouldn't be considered "too much". It is the first " super" stainless, and still the standard by which others are measured.
440xh (cts-xhp) is then vanadium (0.45) and nickel (0.35) enhanced 440c with a boosted carbon level of 1.6% (up 0.4).
Basically if 440c is a tough old blue collar worker, then 440xh is 440c that hit the gym pretty hard...
(Another way to view it, it appears to be a true stainless d2 with half the vanadium and a nickle boost for softness)...
Take a good 440c with just a .2% increase in carbon, double the molybdenum, drop 4% chromium (carbides) and replace it with harder vanadium, and throw in a splash of nitrogen and a pinch of tungsten, and you have s30v.
440c in the gym with a good healthy diet and supplements
440v (cpm s60v) is then 440c + a whole 1% carbon bump, a mid equivalent chromium content (17%), the same vanadium as s30v, but instead of all the fancy additives like tungsten and nitrogen and extra moly, cut the bull and just add an extra 1.5% vanadium...
Like 440c on steroids! (I can imagine it takes a real keen edge for slicing like none other, but is hard as nails and tough to sharpen, and probably prone to chip?)
All in all in all though, diet and excersise is the most ideal way to go, and based on alloying elements and properties alone, along with my keen liking for 440c as a tried and true classic, (allbeit without having tried cts-xhp or s60v in person) my money is that s30v is in fact the best knife metal of the bunch all things considered, and s60v is probay a great hard slicer but that's about it... CTS-XHP appears to be an improved 440c so I can't wait to try it, because I do appreciate the original quite a bit
User commenting the equivalent of a thesis paper on 440c metal including thesis statement, body, and cited references as a rebuttal to a troll: what a time to be alive.
I give it an A- . While the enthusiasm comes through and the comment was structured, MLA formatting of citations was not followed.
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User commenting the equivalent of a thesis paper on 440c metal including thesis statement, body, and cited references as a rebuttal to a troll: what a time to be alive.
I give it an A- . While the enthusiasm comes through and the comment was structured, MLA formatting of citations was not followed.
User commenting the equivalent of a thesis paper on 440c metal including thesis statement, body, and cited references as a rebuttal to a troll: what a time to be alive.
I give it an A- . While the enthusiasm comes through and the comment was structured, MLA formatting of citations was not followed.
Here is a sampling of what is known about it and the idea that is some crap steel is in fact crap. It is budget steel but that is different thing. Some of the high end steels can be a real pain in the @ss and not ideal for many situations.
From AI
This video is very informative in shch we can see that Spyderco Byrd feels 440C China steel to be more than acceptable and a great steel.Testing Chinese Knife Steel - Actually Good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7i3q1f
Here is an informative reddit thread.
https://www.reddit.com/r/knives/c..._about_it/
Here is Blade Forums thread.
https://www.bladeforums
Another Blade Forums thread.
https://www.bladeforums
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt where did your information that the steel on this knife is below par for 440C?
Here is in depth review with some bataoning and tip testing and it shows nothing hinting at a problem with the steel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHkg3p-L1Q8
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