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MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 5070 Graphics Card RTX 5070 12G VENTUS 2X OC - Newegg.com $549.99

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says it's in stock $549.99. out of stock everywhere.

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says it's in stock $549.99. out of stock everywhere.

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ibuythingshere
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Quote from TheTomSawyer :
What's hash rate va 1080ti? Might upgrade the rig…
damn that must have been a good nap you just took. 4-5 year nap?
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Quote from ibuythingshere :
Here is a list of video cards released 20 years ago (2005) along with their original MSRP and adjusted price for 2025, accounting for inflation:

Video Card Original MSRP (2005) Adjusted Price (2025)
GeForce 7800 GTX $599 $1,081.86
GeForce 7800 GTX 512 $649 $1,172.17
GeForce 7800 GT ~$449 ~$810.15
GeForce 6600 GT $200 $361.22
GeForce 6600 $150 $270.92
ATI Radeon X800 XL $299 $540.03

from what i recall 6600 was definitely the low end budget card so while they have crept up, its not as much as you think it is?
I was thinking that also. I remember my first ever self built PC (PC only) was around 1K (EUR) in 2004, and that thing had mid range stuff (in a massive chieftec case). Adjusted for inflation that's more than I ever spent for a system at any time after that.
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Quote from ibuythingshere :
Here is a list of video cards released 20 years ago (2005) along with their original MSRP and adjusted price for 2025, accounting for inflation:

Video Card Original MSRP (2005) Adjusted Price (2025)
GeForce 7800 GTX $599 $1,081.86
GeForce 7800 GTX 512 $649 $1,172.17
GeForce 7800 GT ~$449 ~$810.15
GeForce 6600 GT $200 $361.22
GeForce 6600 $150 $270.92
ATI Radeon X800 XL $299 $540.03

from what i recall 6600 was definitely the low end budget card so while they have crept up, its not as much as you think it is?
Googling some numbers of "adjusted" pricing doesn't say much, if you were actually a purchaser back then you'd know partner cards were often discounted from MSRP at launch rather than being sold at or above. I wasn't paying MSRP over 20 years ago, almost nobody was. Sales were a thing then when they aren't now, and there wasn't scalping and mass Asian stock grabs to circumvent customs fees, and of course just plain greed.

What's the MSRP of an RTX 5090? Can you even find an RTX 5090 in stock at that price? What does a 5090 sell for on Ebay? None of these situations existed back then like they do now, and products didn't hold their value then as they do now, because manufacturers continue to sell at MSRP for almost the entire lifespan of a generation.

I could walk into Best Buy back then and find video cards in clearance aisles. Even consoles of today are holding their MSRP value far longer than they did back then, when sales and permanent discounts came much earlier in the product lifecycle.

What you were actually paying out of pocket then versus now is a totally different story from inflation adjusted sticker prices.

But if you wanna keep defending an industry that's taking complete advantage of you, that's your right. A graph of the market valuation of Nvidia as a company over time says so much more than those numbers you just Googled and posted.
Last edited by shytface March 29, 2025 at 11:02 PM.
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Quote from ibuythingshere :
Here is a list of video cards released 20 years ago (2005) along with their original MSRP and adjusted price for 2025, accounting for inflation:

Video Card Original MSRP (2005) Adjusted Price (2025)
GeForce 7800 GTX $599 $1,081.86
GeForce 7800 GTX 512 $649 $1,172.17
GeForce 7800 GT ~$449 ~$810.15
GeForce 6600 GT $200 $361.22
GeForce 6600 $150 $270.92
ATI Radeon X800 XL $299 $540.03

from what i recall 6600 was definitely the low end budget card so while they have crept up, its not as much as you think it is?
lol ok
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KNlCKS
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For a rig that mainly edits video, is this a good upgrade? I'm coming from a 2070 with a 5600x. Do I need a new cpu with this card?
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ibuythingshere
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Quote from shytface :
Googling some numbers of "adjusted" pricing doesn't say much, if you were actually a purchaser back then you'd know partner cards were often discounted from MSRP at launch rather than being sold at or above. I wasn't paying MSRP over 20 years ago, almost nobody was. Sales were a thing then when they aren't now, and there wasn't scalping and mass Asian stock grabs to circumvent customs fees, and of course just plain greed.

What's the MSRP of an RTX 5090? Can you even find an RTX 5090 in stock at that price? What does a 5090 sell for on Ebay? None of these situations existed back then like they do now, and products didn't hold their value then as they do now, because manufacturers continue to sell at MSRP for almost the entire lifespan of a generation.

I could walk into Best Buy back then and find video cards in clearance aisles. Even consoles of today are holding their MSRP value far longer than they did back then, when sales and permanent discounts came much earlier in the product lifecycle.

What you were actually paying out of pocket then versus now is a totally different story from inflation adjusted sticker prices.

But if you wanna keep defending an industry that's taking complete advantage of you, that's your right. A graph of the market valuation of Nvidia as a company over time says so much more than those numbers you just Googled and posted.
i'm nvidia's ceo
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Quote from ibuythingshere :
Here is a list of video cards released 20 years ago (2005) along with their original MSRP and adjusted price for 2025, accounting for inflation:

Video Card Original MSRP (2005) Adjusted Price (2025)
GeForce 7800 GTX $599 $1,081.86
GeForce 7800 GTX 512 $649 $1,172.17
GeForce 7800 GT ~$449 ~$810.15
GeForce 6600 GT $200 $361.22
GeForce 6600 $150 $270.92
ATI Radeon X800 XL $299 $540.03

from what i recall 6600 was definitely the low end budget card so while they have crept up, its not as much as you think it is?
It's pointless to compare the prices of GPUs from 20 years ago adjusted for inflation. That's simply not how the economics of technology work. Typically technology gets cheaper over time. PCs used to cost $2k to $3k just for a basic machine 30 years ago (these days that's top of the line).

The only reason GPUs have gone against this trend is because of greedy business practices by nVidia and AMD.
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$200 too much. PC gaming shouldn't cost this...
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Quote from PeterL7956 :
About 25% FPS. If you care about ray tracing, it will absolutely smoke the 3080. I think it's a solid upgrade.
I would not worry about the 12gb VRAM at all on the 5070. It's solidly a 1080p/1440p card and with DLSS, 99.8% of the games out there won't exceed that.
12gbs is more than enough for gaming.
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Quote from ibuythingshere :
Here is a list of video cards released 20 years ago (2005) along with their original MSRP and adjusted price for 2025, accounting for inflation:

Video Card Original MSRP (2005) Adjusted Price (2025)
GeForce 7800 GTX $599 $1,081.86
GeForce 7800 GTX 512 $649 $1,172.17
GeForce 7800 GT ~$449 ~$810.15
GeForce 6600 GT $200 $361.22
GeForce 6600 $150 $270.92
ATI Radeon X800 XL $299 $540.03

from what i recall 6600 was definitely the low end budget card so while they have crept up, its not as much as you think it is?
If the 7800 GTX was supposed to be the flagship of that generation then we should be comparing it to the 5090 at 2k today, should we not? So it's a 100% increase?
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drsnowmon
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You have to turn down settings to play AAA games with 5070. Also, if you're gonna settle with 5070 get the ones with the triple fan, they run much cooler. RTX 5070 is basically RTX 4070 Super.
Last edited by drsnowmon March 30, 2025 at 02:53 AM.
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Quote from wolve3 :
It's pointless to compare the prices of GPUs from 20 years ago adjusted for inflation. That's simply not how the economics of technology work. Typically technology gets cheaper over time. PCs used to cost $2k to $3k just for a basic machine 30 years ago (these days that's top of the line).

The only reason GPUs have gone against this trend is because of greedy business practices by nVidia and AMD.
You've also got additional demand from people who aren't necessarily interested in gaming, but want some CUDA cores to learn the NVIDIA software stack and keep their skills relevant in the age of AI.
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Quote from ibuythingshere :
raw performance.. meh. but without it you dont get access to the new tech like the frame gen stuff so it will feel like a much bigger upgrade
It's insane that Nvidia won't give 3000 series basic things like 2x frame gen.
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Quote from shytface :
PC gaming is in such a sad state. You shouldn't have to tell someone that wants to build their first ever PC that a 1440P mid range GPU alone will cost them $550-600.

COVID proved to the industry that people will pay anything to be able to keep playing their video games, and it's hurt the consumer base as a whole in a major way. I'm old enough now that I can afford this shit, but I feel for the up and coming generations. It's such a barrier to entry, they might be enjoying record profits for now, but in the long run they're on the path to causing another industry crash IMO.

My rant for the day as someone that started over 20 years ago on solid $100-200 GPUs...
Video game market needs to go back to 90s to escape epeen or whatever... terrible fps gutter... strategy games 90s... so quiet and not obnoxious

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Quote from KNlCKS :
For a rig that mainly edits video, is this a good upgrade? I'm coming from a 2070 with a 5600x. Do I need a new cpu with this card?
Might not even have to upgrade your cpu yet. I guess if it's choppy scrubbing through 4k videos while editing then probably should upgrade the gpu and cpu. If it's still smooth then I'd keep it as is.

Lol that's one of the reasons why I wanted to upgrade my rig. (i7-6700k with 1070).

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