Costco Wholesale has for its
Members:
Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution w/ Panel (select option on the product page) for
$7199.99.
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Available Options (use sorting options on product page to select):
- Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution w/ Panel $7199.99
- Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra Whole-Home Power Solution $6299.99
Includes:
- EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Inverter
- 2x EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Battery
- EcoFlow DELTA Pro Ultra Trolley
- EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2
Features:
- Scalable 12kWh solution provides up to a week of essential power supply
- Exceptional 7200W output powers most household appliances at 120V or 240V
- Super-fast charge up to 8800W by combining solar and AC
- Online UPS ensures 0-ms transfer time, offering constant protection for sensitive devices
- Long-lasting 10-year LFP battery for reliable performance
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Extremely expensive, not flexible, stuck in an ecosystem, hard to scale, etc.
A Delta Pro/Ultra I would say is good up to a RV or something because the power demands are not as high and you can take advantage of its portable nature.
Since anything powering your home full time does not need to be portable, your much better off with a DIY system from Victron, EG4, etc.
DIY meaning piece by piece not so much that you have to do the work yourself, as even this system your paying an electrician to install the panel, so may as well pay them (less) to install a big inverter panel instead.
Here are some facts
12kWh "enough for a week" based on the advertisement that is enough for a few hours at my house. I use 60kWh a day on a normal day when I am home.
The average home probably at least 30kWh
The batteries are 6000Wh each costing over $2000 each with a maximum expansion point.
DIY you can buy a 5000Wh rack mount battery with more features and protections built in for under $1000 so if you scale up to say a 60,000Wh system just the battery alone
Delta Pro Ultra 60,000Wh = ~$22,000.00
DIY 60,000Wh = ~$10,800
That alone will pay for your install costs, stronger and better inverter, and even allow buying a backup system (or better solar)
Then features, the Ultra cant do things like EPS (Emergency Power Mode) for the 20ms UPS feature while also in self power mode to make use of solar power.
It also has a pretty terrible limitation for pass thru power.
This was my first big deal breaker and why I went with something else, as this is a very standard feature for a mid range hybrid inverter.
72000w also is not even strong enough to run most homes with HVAC. so you would need to buy two of these to get enough power, and that makes the cost start to go sky rocket (and you have to buy additional inverters to expand battery capacity as well)
I can keep going, the list is pretty long but I think you get the idea.
That said I own over 12 Ecoflow Power Stations and I pre-ordered the Bluetti Apex 300 so I am not biased or hating, just honest and transparent and I don't drink the Ecoflow Koolaid like most people on the respective FB/Reddit groups.
As a matter of fact, they hate me because I keep sharing ideas on how to hack their equipment to save money
https://youtu.be/0fvpc5QyYHk?si=
The primary use for my setup is to serve me during a power outage at home AND to be as seamless as possible so that if I were not home, my wife/family wouldn't really need to do anything to continue living 'normally' --- at least for ~10-20 hours. I do have a tri-fuel generator that I run on NG which I wired to an outlet that sits between my main panel AND the SHP2 panel that both have lockout switches installed. This gives me flexibiilty to either power up the secondary circuits that I did not move over to the SHP2 and/or re-charge the EF DP batteries in the case of an extended outage. This is something that I would likely need to be home for IF it were needed as I don't think anybody else in my house could figure it out.
I have added 4x 400w solar panels on a ground mount as a 'fun project' which do an 'ok' job of recharging the DP batteries on a daily basis. The SHP2 will then use the excess power collected in the batteries to power ALL fo the circuits on that panel until the overall battery % is depleted to 50% (this is configurable, but I don't ever want to have <50% charge in case there is an outage). This saves me a few bucks every month off of my electric bill --- while not my primary goal, it is enjoyable to track this throgh the 'very solid' EF app. I should note that the switch from grid to battery power using this mode is seamless -- nobody would ever know when the SHP2 transitions from one power source to another unless you brought up the app.
Additionally, there is a feature called 'storm tracker' which will automatically charge up all batteries to 100% (using grid power) within 24 hours of a storm approaching my area. This has happened on several occassions and would maximize my battery storage should power be knocked out during a storm.
I cannot speak to how seamless some of this functionality would operate in a DIY system, but for my specific needs it works really well. Did I spend more $$ (possibly a lot more??) for my EF setup that I would have using a DIY, almost certainly "yes", but the system is very slick in the way it is setup/connects/etc -- I would have had to invest more time learning how to best setup and organize a DIY system (i.e. buy a rack -- maybe several, buy a bunch of low AWG wires to interconnect things, etc.).
In short, I am quite pleased with the overall functionality that I am getting out of the system and the overall ease of setup and use. I'd advise anybody considering this or a DIY setup to do a bunch of research before deciding what is best for your needs.
EDITED NOTE: I actually purchased this particualr deal from Costco at this price the last time it was offered, but was able to snag 2x additional batterest at $1500 ea. from the Home Depot deal ~1.5 months ago. If there is another sale on batteries at a similar price point in the future, I'll consider further expansion of my system. The reason I mention this is that there are ways to save some $$$ once you enter the EF ecosystem that 'should' save you more $$$ over the typical prices -- obvioulsy, you need a little patience and to NOT have an urgent need for this to play out.
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obviously there are cheaper solutions, but diy is a lot more complicated to set up, and typically not portable, so yes, you are paying a premium for the convenience and portability factor.
surprise, surprise, you actually have to pay more for something more convenient and easy to set up, which is portable. some folks are willing to pay extra for that, because time is money, and they don't want the headaches of wiring up diy or learning how to wire up diy. of course one can do diy cheaper.
we shouldn't be presumptuous and assume we know what's best for everyone else. for example, some folks are renters and do not own their own home, so the ecoflow system might work better for them in their situation, where they cannot easily modify the electrical panel in their dwelling by installing a diy setup.
granted, this particular deal does come with the smart home panel 2, so it is geared for those who can make modifications to their electrical panel. however, perhaps someone is a renter now, and intends to purchase a home in the not too distant future. they could put the delta pro ultra to work without the shp2 for the time being, and then after they purchase a home, they could install the shp2 permanently.
some folks spend a lot of time and effort learning how to install diy, and others use that time to make more $, so they can afford more turn-key solutions. neither approach is necessarily wrong.
if you want to spend all that money on a victron, be my guest. they do make quality stuff. i own and use some. ecoflow is expensive, victron is expensive. they both have their pros and cons. isn't it nice that we have choices.
i wouldn't mock someone for paying more for quality victron gear, just as i don't see the point in harassing folks who spend more for the convenience and simplicity of ecoflow.
no need to be a crusader. just be content to let folks buy what suits their needs/application best. i happen to use a combination of victron and ecoflow products. part diy, part plug-n-play.
im looking to spend around $1-2k to start. with a small system that would help absorb some of my electrical use during the day. so i think thats grid tied system? If possible to add a medium sized backup battery(s) that might help me power some electronics for a few hours when the power goes out would be nice as well.
are there any kits someone would recommend or great install videos for a starter kit that has future expandability?
if you want to spend all that money on a victron, be my guest. they do make quality stuff. i own and use some. ecoflow is expensive, victron is expensive. they both have their pros and cons. isn't it nice that we have choices.
i wouldn't mock someone for paying more for quality victron gear, just as i don't see the point in harassing folks who spend more for the convenience and simplicity of ecoflow.
no need to be a crusader. just be content to let folks buy what suits their needs/application best. i happen to use a combination of victron and ecoflow products. part diy, part plug-n-play.
Same actually, but the big whole home setup is going to be EG4 FlexBoss 21 for me with the Gridboss MIT
I'm not a crusader or a salesman, just a voice of reason that people can choose to listen too as an alternative to where many places have only bias.
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otherwise, i assume one could hook up a 12v inverter to the chevy bolt 12v battery, and run loads or charge a power station that way. i don't know the max output one can extract from the chevy bolt 12v battery.
but in an emergency, i'm sure people use inverters or alternator chargers to use the chevy bolt to provide backup power.
i would only want an ev if i had an gas car as a backup, and i would also want to install a solar system to charge my ev, so i could still charge it if the grid went down.
if you don't have TOU electricity rates in your area, or you don't have a solar system installed, then this is an expensive backup solution for only the occasional emergency.
this system becomes much more palatable if you can take advantage of the 30% renewable credit on your taxes, and you have TOU or solar to reduce your electricity bill.
however, now that the new flexbosses (18 and 21) are much quieter, they are much more appealing as a diy alternative to the delta pro ultra.
enjoy your eg4 setup. i'm sure it will be really nice.
Sure, there are other costs and factors, but the point is it's not just to save $1.56 of electricity. Personally for me, I'm looking for "pay back period" of 2-3 years, so I'm probably dreaming.
I can't over charge or over drain any of my batteries
Thank you. Cheap all in one batteries don't have a solid BMS.
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