1/2" boen Cordless Impact Wrench: 260 Ft-Lbs Brushless Electric Impact Gun w/ 2.0Ah Battery & Charger $37.99 + Free Shipping w/ Prime

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Seems like a good price for the tool, but I'm not about to complicate my battery ecosystem for this...

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Seems like a good price for the tool, but I'm not about to complicate my battery ecosystem for this...

We could live in a world where the battery connector and internal BMS is not used to enforce vendor lock-in, but instead we have disposable tools on clearance, chock full of rare earth elements destined for the landfill. These Amazon brands are merely copying the big name brands at their own game.

(Yes, I do have an SBD power tool graveyard.)

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A better alternative in my opinion is to search Amazon for an impact wrench that fits your battery ecosystem. I have a few non-Dewalt branded tools that are made to work with Dewalt 20v. For the most part, they all work well. I got a 1/2" drive impact wrench for like $50 (without a battery of course) that does a great job at removing lug nut bolts or rusted bolts on my 4Runner.

So you'd just search "impact wrench for Dewalt battery" on Amazon and you'll get a lot of unbranded or Chinese-branded items that fit the 20v Dewalt battery packs you already own. They have them for Makita and all the other battery ecosystems too.

If it's something I use regularly, I'd rather invest in the Dewalt branded product, but for something I use infrequently I'll cheap out and so far it has worked out just fine

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Quote from mantis3

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A better alternative in my opinion is to search Amazon for an impact wrench that fits your battery ecosystem. I have a few non-Dewalt branded tools that are made to work with Dewalt 20v. For the most part, they all work well. I got a 1/2" drive impact wrench for like $50 (without a battery of course) that does a great job at removing lug nut bolts or rusted bolts on my 4Runner.

So you'd just search "impact wrench for Dewalt battery" on Amazon and you'll get a lot of unbranded or Chinese-branded items that fit the 20v Dewalt battery packs you already own. They have them for Makita and all the other battery ecosystems too.

If it's something I use regularly, I'd rather invest in the Dewalt branded product, but for something I use infrequently I'll cheap out and so far it has worked out just fine

I have tried that but never found any that work with WORX or Metobo (Hitatchi) batteries. Any ideas?

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Quote from mantis3

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A better alternative in my opinion is to search Amazon for an impact wrench that fits your battery ecosystem. I have a few non-Dewalt branded tools that are made to work with Dewalt 20v. For the most part, they all work well. I got a 1/2" drive impact wrench for like $50 (without a battery of course) that does a great job at removing lug nut bolts or rusted bolts on my 4Runner.

So you'd just search "impact wrench for Dewalt battery" on Amazon and you'll get a lot of unbranded or Chinese-branded items that fit the 20v Dewalt battery packs you already own. They have them for Makita and all the other battery ecosystems too.

If it's something I use regularly, I'd rather invest in the Dewalt branded product, but for something I use infrequently I'll cheap out and so far it has worked out just fine

Most of these cheap Amazon impacts do just copy Makita or DeWalt for their battery designs.

I'm a Vine customer so I've tried out lots of them. Most of them grossly exaggerate the torque claims too. This Boen probably goes closer to 130 ft/lbs than 260.

It's $50 on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...NX03I&th=1

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Never heard of this brand, anyone know if the batteries are compatible with any other brand?

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Quote from TealIdea227

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We could live in a world where the battery connector and internal BMS is not used to enforce vendor lock-in, but instead we have disposable tools on clearance, chock full of rare earth elements destined for the landfill. These Amazon brands are merely copying the big name brands at their own game.

(Yes, I do have an SBD power tool graveyard.)

I made a similar post recently. Glad that cell phones are being standardized with USB-C, at least. Power tool makers are just too greedy. I know adapters work for some cross-branding but, unfortunately, not much out there for use with 20V B&D batteries.

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Power tool makers are just too greedy.

Has nothing to do with greed, it's the main differentiator. All tool makers off the same products. If there was a standard battery platform, most of those names would go away and you'd have no real competition and very little innovation.

Plus, these $37 amazon rip off tools should not be the bar at which we measure these things. They're riddled with unsubstantiated claims, questionable warranties, even more questionable safety standards and so on.

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JohnO4429

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Quote from nottrollin

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Most of these cheap Amazon impacts do just copy Makita or DeWalt for their battery designs. I'm a Vine customer so I've tried out lots of them. Most of them grossly exaggerate the torque claims too. This Boen probably goes closer to 130 ft/lbs than 260. It's $50 on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...NX03I&th=1

I have Ridgid 18V. The brushless impact driver, battery and charger is just $99. It's likely a much better tool for not a ton more money. Ridgid has a lifetime warranty on batteries. DeWalt has the same deal for their brushless 20V impact driver, battery and charger. Adding a drill and another battery only adds $70. Don't blame the tool companies if you choose to buy this garbage and end up with a bunch of dead tools and batteries. Tools are better and cheaper than ever. It is easier than ever to get in an ecosystem that gives you a wide variety of tools that take one battery.

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Has nothing to do with greed, it's the main differentiator. All tool makers off the same products. If there was a standard battery platform, most of those names would go away and you'd have no real competition and very little innovation.

Plus, these $37 amazon rip off tools should not be the bar at which we measure these things. They're riddled with unsubstantiated claims, questionable warranties, even more questionable safety standards and so on.

I think you meant to say All tool makers offer the same products?

Not at all. Some offer similar products of course. Maybe even similar or same specs, But quality can vary widely. The quality in a brand's system is why you should be willing to pay more for its equivalent compared to a lesser quality brand.

I think your point is that if two tools from different brands make equally specced tools, you only have the brand name as being different. I don't see that as anywhere near an "always" or even a "normally". They don't all get pumped out of the same factory so there will always be some differences.

If I had Ryobi batteries and chargers already from some deal, I would love to pick up a Dewalt tool-only deal that for no extra charge I could use my batts with. Instead, they force you to invest in an entire ecosystem or many if you like certain tools for whatever reason over the ones in your ecosystem. I still say greedy.

We could buy tools based only on their quality, instead of settling for some good ones we wanted for a good deal, and some we could get a better deal on a better tool from another maker. But being restricted to their ecosystem makes that too pricey to switch over to for one or two tools you'd prefer from another maker

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I think you meant to say All tool makers offer the same products?

yes, keyboard issues over here

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Not at all. Some offer similar products of course. Maybe even similar or same specs, But quality can vary widely. The quality in a brand's system is why you should be willing to pay more for its equivalent compared to a lesser quality brand.

They all offer the same thing...a set of tools. They different in quality, specs, performance, etc., but that comes with the R&D and need to innovate. A standard battery platform would lessen or remove all of that.

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I think your point is that if two tools from different brands make equally specced tools, you only have the brand name as being different. I don't see that as anywhere near an "always" or even a "normally". They don't all get pumped out of the same factory so there will always be some differences.

Many get pumped out of the same factory though which is why craftsman and dewalt look very similar. Ridgid/Ryobi are by TTI but not always the same, targeting different customers.

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If I had Ryobi batteries and chargers already from some deal, I would love to pick up a Dewalt tool-only deal that for no extra charge I could use my batts with. Instead, they force you to invest in an entire ecosystem or many if you like certain tools for whatever reason over the ones in your ecosystem. I still say greedy.

What you want vs. what the company wants will not always align. And just because they don't align doesn't make the company greedy. Every company wants to find a differentiator amongst their competition (unless you're Southwest Airlines...*dig*) and the battery platforms are/can be that. I'll tell you this, ryobi batteries are garbage compared to dewalt batteries. Can't speak to milwaukee or makita or ridgid.

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We could buy tools based only on their quality, instead of settling for some good ones we wanted for a good deal, and some we could get a better deal on a better tool from another maker. But being restricted to their ecosystem makes that too pricey to switch over to for one or two tools you'd prefer from another maker

To be fair, no one is restricted. I have ryobi and dewalt at the house. The battery platform is not some locked system. I love the ryobi brad nailer I have and keep it around with an inflator and other tools that I don't get value from on the Dewalt platform. But dewalt's impacts, drills and other tools are far superior to the ryobi offering so I went that direction.

People like to think once you choose a platform you're stuck, you're not.

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I have Ridgid 18V. The brushless impact driver, battery and charger is just $99. It's likely a much better tool for not a ton more money. Ridgid has a lifetime warranty on batteries. DeWalt has the same deal for their brushless 20V impact driver, battery and charger. Adding a drill and another battery only adds $70. Don't blame the tool companies if you choose to buy this garbage and end up with a bunch of dead tools and batteries. Tools are better and cheaper than ever. It is easier than ever to get in an ecosystem that gives you a wide variety of tools that take one battery.

All of the deals you've mentioned sell impact drivers not impact wrenches. I don't disagree that this is a garbage wrench, but you're not comparing apples to apples.

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I have Ridgid 18V. The brushless impact driver, battery and charger is just $99. It's likely a much better tool for not a ton more money. Ridgid has a lifetime warranty on batteries. DeWalt has the same deal for their brushless 20V impact driver, battery and charger. Adding a drill and another battery only adds $70. Don't blame the tool companies if you choose to buy this garbage and end up with a bunch of dead tools and batteries. Tools are better and cheaper than ever. It is easier than ever to get in an ecosystem that gives you a wide variety of tools that take one battery.

As I said, I'm in the Vine program. So I don't pay for them.

I own a complete set of Ridgid tools.

But I don't ever remember the 1/2" Ridgid Brushless impact Wrench with battery and charger selling for $100. Can you link that deal? They're usually almost double that price:
https://slickdeals.net/f/18413533-ridgid-18v-brushless-4-mode-1-2-high-torque-impact-wrench-kit-w-2x-4ah-batteries-charger-189-free-shipping?src=SiteSearch

1/2" boen Cordless Impact Wrench: 260 Ft-Lbs Brushless Electric Impact Gun w/ 2.0Ah Battery & Charger $37.99 + Free Shipping w/ Prime

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