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expiredSuryasis posted Yesterday 06:11 AM
expiredSuryasis posted Yesterday 06:11 AM

Minisforum MS-A1 Refurbished: Ryzen 7 8700G, 32GB DDR5, 1TB Gen4 SSD, USB4, OCuLink, 2x2.5G Lan, Wi-Fi 6E, Win11H @ $475.15 + F/S

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Coupon: 15% OFF via LD15

Spec:
  • Ryzen 7 8700G 8C/16T 4.2 GHz (5.1 GHz Boost, 24MB Cache)
  • Radeon 780M Integrated Graphics
  • 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 SODIMM 5600 MT/s (2 Slots, 96GB max)
  • 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 SSDs
  • 2x PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 3x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 4x1 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x M.2 2230 for NIC (Populated)
  • Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Front Ports:
    • 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
  • Rear Ports:
    • 1x DC-In (19V 12.63A, 240W)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x DisplayPort 2.0
    • 1x OCulink Dedicated Port
    • 1x USB 4.0 Type-C 40 Gbps (Data + DisplayPort)
    • 1x USB-A 3.2 gen 2 10 Gbps
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 2x Realtek 2.5G RJ-45 supporting link aggregation
Features:
  • Supports Raphael (Ryzen 7000 desktop), Phoenix (Ryzen 8000 series Desktop) and Granite Ridge (Ryzen 9000 series Desktop) Processor
  • The 3 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 SSD bandwidth depends upon the CPU choice as the Phoenix APUs don't offer as many PCIe Gen 4 lanes as the Ryzen 7000 series Desktop Processors. If 8000 series is used, the 2nd PCIe Gen 4x4 Slot will run at Gen 4x2 speed
  • The USB-C Port will offer USB4 functionality only with Ryzen 8000 series APU as it offers native USB4 support. With Ryzen 7000/9000 series Desktop Processors, it will operate as a normal USB 3.2 Gen 2 speed.
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Link: https://refurbished.minisforum.co...7634746657
Coupon: 15% OFF via LD15

Spec:
  • Ryzen 7 8700G 8C/16T 4.2 GHz (5.1 GHz Boost, 24MB Cache)
  • Radeon 780M Integrated Graphics
  • 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 SODIMM 5600 MT/s (2 Slots, 96GB max)
  • 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 SSDs
  • 2x PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 3x4 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x PCIe Gen 4x1 M.2 2280 Slot
  • 1x M.2 2230 for NIC (Populated)
  • Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
  • Front Ports:
    • 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
  • Rear Ports:
    • 1x DC-In (19V 12.63A, 240W)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x DisplayPort 2.0
    • 1x OCulink Dedicated Port
    • 1x USB 4.0 Type-C 40 Gbps (Data + DisplayPort)
    • 1x USB-A 3.2 gen 2 10 Gbps
    • 1x USB-A 2.0
    • 2x Realtek 2.5G RJ-45 supporting link aggregation
Features:
  • Supports Raphael (Ryzen 7000 desktop), Phoenix (Ryzen 8000 series Desktop) and Granite Ridge (Ryzen 9000 series Desktop) Processor
  • The 3 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 SSD bandwidth depends upon the CPU choice as the Phoenix APUs don't offer as many PCIe Gen 4 lanes as the Ryzen 7000 series Desktop Processors. If 8000 series is used, the 2nd PCIe Gen 4x4 Slot will run at Gen 4x2 speed
  • The USB-C Port will offer USB4 functionality only with Ryzen 8000 series APU as it offers native USB4 support. With Ryzen 7000/9000 series Desktop Processors, it will operate as a normal USB 3.2 Gen 2 speed.

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Yesterday 12:19 PM
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PilsnerpopperYesterday 12:19 PM
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This is still one of the best performing APUs and is not really available at this price point elsewhere. Should do everything including 1080 gaming quite well. Can also add external GPU down the road via oculink
Yesterday 01:17 PM
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aerosnowYesterday 01:17 PM
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Darn....OOS
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m0j0Yesterday 02:46 PM
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Try refreshing. I was able to purchase one.
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Quote from aerosnow :
Darn....OOS
still in stock for me
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank zyberwoof

For those getting something like this to use as a hypervisor, here are some thoughts:
  • Unlike AMD's AM4 CPUs, it appears that most non "F" Ryzen AM5 CPUs include a weak iGPU [wikipedia.org]. This means that a non "G" 7000 or 9000 CPUs can work without a discrete graphics card.
  • Ryzen APUs, desktop CPUs that end in "G", support lower PCIe versions. For example, the AM4 CPUs 5700G and 5600 support PCIe 3 and 4 respectively. The AM5 CPUs 8700G, 7600, and 9600 support PCIe 4, 5, and 5. To put it simply, you get "more PCIe" with the non "G" CPUs.
  • Ryzen APUs likely use more power and generate more heat than similar CPUs for similar workloads because of the beefier iGPU. Especially when running a server OS without at GUI.
  • It's normally much easier to pass through a separate, unused GPU to a VM. If you get an APU, then the additional graphics power of the APU may go unused.
  • Newer Intel CPUs let you split up the iGPU into multiple virtual GPUs, which are much easier to pass through to VMs. I greatly prefer AMD to Intel CPUs in general. But for a homelab, an Intel CPU may be a better choice if you use VMs and have a desire to accelerate video transcoding.
These are just some observations I've made over the past few years. In many scenarios for homelabs, you may be better off getting a non-"G" AM5 CPU.
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Only1ChrisYesterday 05:15 PM
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Would this make a good casual couch gaming PC? I would like something to play some casual co-op games from my Steam library.
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cuoreesitanteYesterday 05:52 PM
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Quote from Only1Chris :
Would this make a good casual couch gaming PC? I would like something to play some casual co-op games from my Steam library.
Yes it would be excellent for that. For reference the iGPU is a couple of tiers higher than the one in the SteamDeck. Can always get a eGPU later if you want a full gaming PC, since you can upgrade the CPU to the 9950 I believe.

I would have jumped on this in an instant if it was available a month ago, I ended up getting a Legion Go for the same purpose but this would have been much better.

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thrustbucketYesterday 07:32 PM
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Snagged one for my wife to use for her Adobe crap. Now I just need to find a good deal on some 2280's
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This config would totally work for me to replace my aging Dell Precision tower PC, but I need room for two hard drives (which I use for backup).
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Quote from deelseaker :
This config would totally work for me to replace my aging Dell Precision tower PC, but I need room for two hard drives (which I use for backup).
3.5 or 2.5 inch drive?
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Quote from Suryasis :
3.5 or 2.5 inch drive?
3.5 inch

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