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Minisforum MS-A1 Refurbished: Ryzen 7 8700G, 32GB DDR5, 1TB Gen4 SSD, USB4, OCuLink, 2x2.5G Lan, Wi-Fi 6E, Win11H @ $475.15 + F/S
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Link: https://refurbished.min
Coupon: 15% OFF via LD15
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- Ryzen 7 8700G 8C/16T 4.2 GHz (5.1 GHz Boost, 24MB Cache)
- Radeon 780M Integrated Graphics
- 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 SODIMM 5600 MT/s (2 Slots, 96GB max)
- 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 SSDs
- 2x PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 2280 Slot
- 1x PCIe Gen 3x4 M.2 2280 Slot
- 1x PCIe Gen 4x1 M.2 2280 Slot
- 1x M.2 2230 for NIC (Populated)
- Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
- Front Ports:
- 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
- 1x USB-A 2.0
- 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
- Rear Ports:
- 1x DC-In (19V 12.63A, 240W)
- 1x HDMI 2.1
- 1x DisplayPort 2.0
- 1x OCulink Dedicated Port
- 1x USB 4.0 Type-C 40 Gbps (Data + DisplayPort)
- 1x USB-A 3.2 gen 2 10 Gbps
- 1x USB-A 2.0
- 2x Realtek 2.5G RJ-45 supporting link aggregation
- Supports Raphael (Ryzen 7000 desktop), Phoenix (Ryzen 8000 series Desktop) and Granite Ridge (Ryzen 9000 series Desktop) Processor
- The 3 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 SSD bandwidth depends upon the CPU choice as the Phoenix APUs don't offer as many PCIe Gen 4 lanes as the Ryzen 7000 series Desktop Processors. If 8000 series is used, the 2nd PCIe Gen 4x4 Slot will run at Gen 4x2 speed
- The USB-C Port will offer USB4 functionality only with Ryzen 8000 series APU as it offers native USB4 support. With Ryzen 7000/9000 series Desktop Processors, it will operate as a normal USB 3.2 Gen 2 speed.
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Link: https://refurbished.min
Coupon: 15% OFF via LD15
Spec:
Coupon: 15% OFF via LD15
Spec:
- Ryzen 7 8700G 8C/16T 4.2 GHz (5.1 GHz Boost, 24MB Cache)
- Radeon 780M Integrated Graphics
- 32GB (16GBx2) DDR5 SODIMM 5600 MT/s (2 Slots, 96GB max)
- 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 SSDs
- 2x PCIe Gen 4x4 M.2 2280 Slot
- 1x PCIe Gen 3x4 M.2 2280 Slot
- 1x PCIe Gen 4x1 M.2 2280 Slot
- 1x M.2 2230 for NIC (Populated)
- Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.2
- Front Ports:
- 2x USB-A 3.2 Gen 1
- 1x USB-A 2.0
- 1x 3.5mm Audio Combo Jack
- Rear Ports:
- 1x DC-In (19V 12.63A, 240W)
- 1x HDMI 2.1
- 1x DisplayPort 2.0
- 1x OCulink Dedicated Port
- 1x USB 4.0 Type-C 40 Gbps (Data + DisplayPort)
- 1x USB-A 3.2 gen 2 10 Gbps
- 1x USB-A 2.0
- 2x Realtek 2.5G RJ-45 supporting link aggregation
- Supports Raphael (Ryzen 7000 desktop), Phoenix (Ryzen 8000 series Desktop) and Granite Ridge (Ryzen 9000 series Desktop) Processor
- The 3 M.2 PCIe Gen 4 SSD bandwidth depends upon the CPU choice as the Phoenix APUs don't offer as many PCIe Gen 4 lanes as the Ryzen 7000 series Desktop Processors. If 8000 series is used, the 2nd PCIe Gen 4x4 Slot will run at Gen 4x2 speed
- The USB-C Port will offer USB4 functionality only with Ryzen 8000 series APU as it offers native USB4 support. With Ryzen 7000/9000 series Desktop Processors, it will operate as a normal USB 3.2 Gen 2 speed.
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- Unlike AMD's AM4 CPUs, it appears that most non "F" Ryzen AM5 CPUs include a weak iGPU [wikipedia.org]. This means that a non "G" 7000 or 9000 CPUs can work without a discrete graphics card.
- Ryzen APUs, desktop CPUs that end in "G", support lower PCIe versions. For example, the AM4 CPUs 5700G and 5600 support PCIe 3 and 4 respectively. The AM5 CPUs 8700G, 7600, and 9600 support PCIe 4, 5, and 5. To put it simply, you get "more PCIe" with the non "G" CPUs.
- Ryzen APUs likely use more power and generate more heat than similar CPUs for similar workloads because of the beefier iGPU. Especially when running a server OS without at GUI.
- It's normally much easier to pass through a separate, unused GPU to a VM. If you get an APU, then the additional graphics power of the APU may go unused.
- Newer Intel CPUs let you split up the iGPU into multiple virtual GPUs, which are much easier to pass through to VMs. I greatly prefer AMD to Intel CPUs in general. But for a homelab, an Intel CPU may be a better choice if you use VMs and have a desire to accelerate video transcoding.
These are just some observations I've made over the past few years. In many scenarios for homelabs, you may be better off getting a non-"G" AM5 CPU.I would have jumped on this in an instant if it was available a month ago, I ended up getting a Legion Go for the same purpose but this would have been much better.
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