1450VA / 810W CyberPower BL1450U Back-UPS Battery

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for this who are wondering, this is a simulated sine wave

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5.rivers

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Can we use lithium ion batteries in these??

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PoppinPenelli

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Anybody know why the portable power station companies aren't making computer UPS? It's a high priced market.

Is it that hard to have fast switching times? If so maybe a hybrid solution where a smaller 12v lead acid battery handles the switch load till the Lithium Ion battery circuits take over?

I see they are available and reviews have been good so far...

1000VA = $180
1500VA = $340
2000VA = $640
But at those prices you might as well get a portable power station for the 1500VA+

https://www.amazon.com/GOLDENMATE...B0DTYHHQ3N

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Quote from PoppinPenelli

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Anybody know why the portable power station companies aren't making computer UPS? It's a high priced market.

Is it that hard to have fast switching times? If so maybe a hybrid solution where a smaller 12v lead acid battery handles the switch load till the Lithium Ion battery circuits take over?

I see they are available and reviews have been good so far...

1000VA = $180
1500VA = $340
2000VA = $640
But at those prices you might as well get a portable power station for the 1500VA+

https://www.amazon.com/GOLDENMATE...B0DTYHHQ3N

So.. I had this idea and have an ecoflow 2 MAX in front of my UPS's the problem is that the ecoflow doesn't think lower voltages are a "problem" and won't switch but the UPS will because they are pure sine wave models. I've noticed when really big lightening strikes happen the ecoflow won't do anything but the batteries will switch for a few seconds then switch off again. I suppose I could turn down the sensitive or completely turn it off but my PSU is a 1600w psu serving a server so I "assume" it is fairly sensitive to voltage droop. I've never like tested that but I honestly don't want to mess up my server/data either.

I should mention in "full power outage" situations though the ecoflow shined heavily and powered my server for nearly 2 hours. The bad thing about THAT instance was that the power was off so long I had to power off anyways because the heat generation..

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PoppinPenelli

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So.. I had this idea and have an ecoflow 2 MAX in front of my UPS's the problem is that the ecoflow doesn't think lower voltages are a "problem" and won't switch but the UPS will because they are pure sine wave models. I've noticed when really big lightening strikes happen the ecoflow won't do anything but the batteries will switch for a few seconds then switch off again. I suppose I could turn down the sensitive or completely turn it off but my PSU is a 1600w psu serving a server so I "assume" it is fairly sensitive to voltage droop. I've never like tested that but I honestly don't want to mess up my server/data either.

I should mention in "full power outage" situations though the ecoflow shined heavily and powered my server for nearly 2 hours. The bad thing about THAT instance was that the power was off so long I had to power off anyways because the heat generation..

That's why I currently do a "hybrid" solution where a lead-acid UPS does it's backup as well as shutting down equpment (like a NAS) via USB. For network equipment when runtime dwindles to 5 minutes remaining (Because I don't know when power will be back) I unplug it from the wall and into a LiFEPO4 portable power station knowing I'm getting AC/DC conversion losses but it's still uninterruptible.

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BernsB

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I have had many different types of cyberpower units over the last decades. Most have been the 1500VA with dual batteries. All typically failed within 4 years. In most cases, changing the batteries work BUT in a few instances, it's been the mother board.

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geekwithoutacause

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Quote from PoppinPenelli

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Anybody know why the portable power station companies aren't making computer UPS? It's a high priced market.Is it that hard to have fast switching times? If so maybe a hybrid solution where a smaller 12v lead acid battery handles the switch load till the Lithium Ion battery circuits take over?I see they are available and reviews have been good so far...1000VA = $180 1500VA = $3402000VA = $640But at those prices you might as well get a portable power station for the 1500VA+https://www.amazon.com/GOLDENMATE...B0DTYHHQ3N

some of them do switch fast enough actually.

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Quote from PoppinPenelli

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Anybody know why the portable power station companies aren't making computer UPS? It's a high priced market.

Is it that hard to have fast switching times? If so maybe a hybrid solution where a smaller 12v lead acid battery handles the switch load till the Lithium Ion battery circuits take over?

I see they are available and reviews have been good so far...

1000VA = $180
1500VA = $340
2000VA = $640
But at those prices you might as well get a portable power station for the 1500VA+

https://www.amazon.com/GOLDENMATE...B0DTYHHQ3N

They have no incentive to innovate as long as people keep buying their outdated solutions. So lots of people have resorted to hybrid approaches you're thinking about. My method is to use large LPF power stations like Ecoflow Delta 2 as bulk runtime storage, then daisy-chain a small traditional UPS after that to protect my sensitive equipment. I also optionally add a surge protector at the wall outlet since the power stations don't have those.

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Quote from PoppinPenelli

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That's why I currently do a "hybrid" solution where a lead-acid UPS does it's backup as well as shutting down equpment (like a NAS) via USB. For network equipment when runtime dwindles to 5 minutes remaining (Because I don't know when power will be back) I unplug it from the wall and into a LiFEPO4 portable power station knowing I'm getting AC/DC conversion losses but it's still uninterruptible.

My problem sadly is it killed one of them this last time and took my whole server with it.. luckily there was no corruption(that I found) as there were no writes taking place at the time. Though my batteries are about 4 years old so figures they'd only last such a short time. I'm debating buying this but previously when I had a lightening strike that fried basically 25k in equipment I had cyberpower and well.. I lost 25k in a equipment though I've been told with lightening it doesn't really matter so maybe I shouldn't attribute the failure to them but just full disclosure for everyone in this thread and whoever finds this. That warranty they promise.. yeah they only guarantee it for actual value and they make you have someone inspect each thing at your own expense and say it was electricity who killed it so.. if you have a lot of expensive electronics then I highly suggest making sure your homeowner's insurance is up to snuff(mine was) because that is who will probably be paying.

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Quote from Jerky_san

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My problem sadly is it killed one of them this last time and took my whole server with it.. luckily there was no corruption(that I found) as there were no writes taking place at the time. Though my batteries are about 4 years old so figures they'd only last such a short time. I'm debating buying this but previously when I had a lightening strike that fried basically 25k in equipment I had cyberpower and well.. I lost 25k in a equipment though I've been told with lightening it doesn't really matter so maybe I shouldn't attribute the failure to them but just full disclosure for everyone in this thread and whoever finds this. That warranty they promise.. yeah they only guarantee it for actual value and they make you have someone inspect each thing at your own expense and say it was electricity who killed it so.. if you have a lot of expensive electronics then I highly suggest making sure your homeowner's insurance is up to snuff(mine was) because that is who will probably be paying.

I've been in the I.T. industry and live in an area where EVERYONE has UPS because our power grid is dirty AF. One place I worked there were about 500 users, we put each one of them on a UPS. Went through about 200 UPSs a year once. I've got over 7 UPSs in my home alone.

Never once in my life have I known or even heard of anyone successfully using one of those 'warranties' on the electronics.

These days this deal is great, harder and harder to find high VA UPSs on a good discount. In for at least one.

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My problem sadly is it killed one of them this last time and took my whole server with it.. luckily there was no corruption(that I found) as there were no writes taking place at the time. Though my batteries are about 4 years old so figures they'd only last such a short time. I'm debating buying this but previously when I had a lightening strike that fried basically 25k in equipment I had cyberpower and well.. I lost 25k in a equipment though I've been told with lightening it doesn't really matter so maybe I shouldn't attribute the failure to them but just full disclosure for everyone in this thread and whoever finds this. That warranty they promise.. yeah they only guarantee it for actual value and they make you have someone inspect each thing at your own expense and say it was electricity who killed it so.. if you have a lot of expensive electronics then I highly suggest making sure your homeowner's insurance is up to snuff(mine was) because that is who will probably be paying.
I've been in the I.T. industry and live in an area where EVERYONE has UPS because our power grid is dirty AF. One place I worked there were about 500 users, we put each one of them on a UPS. Went through about 200 UPSs a year once. I've got over 7 UPSs in my home alone.

Never once in my life have I known or even heard of anyone successfully using one of those 'warranties' on the electronics.

These days this deal is great, harder and harder to find high VA UPSs on a good discount. In for at least one.

If you have dirty power you should also look at getting a power conditioner. With more expensive UPSes (rack mount) it's usually not necessary, but these cheap desktop units do not condition the power. I lived in an apartment that was built in the 1920s and ruined 3 pieces of hardware in my desktop computer (which had a UPS) before solving it by adding a power conditioner.
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PhilIndeblanc

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I use a lot of these, and CyberPower is CONSTANTLY the one that ends up failing in circuit board just out of warranty, rarely much longer. My APCs, just need batteries. MAJOR PASS on CyberPower.

neoyouaretheone

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I have this one and the equivalent APC. This one has a very noticeable high pitch while plugged in and the APC does not. Outside that, it's worked good for the year I've had it. I use it to keep the router from. Rebooting during mild power blips and it's been a champ otherwise.

1450VA / 810W CyberPower BL1450U Back-UPS Battery

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