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Bought this thing used like new from the other deal as well. Initially, I was going to return it because it came missing the lattego milk container but then found out Philips sells it by itself on their website. So I pushed Amazon to refund me $72 total, bought the lattego for $53, and profited the remaining $19. So about $200 total for the cost of the machine and it works great. Got a bag of Lavazza gran crema beans and this is now one of the most used appliance in the house.
Between me, girlfriend and a bunch of friends...
My brother's machine, he thought he had a drip but he bought a new one and it used the same amount of water. It was just water in the drip tray, so its probably nothing
Girlfriend's machine had the line at the back of the machine unhooked, so as soon as you put the water resevoir in it would leak. Opened that up with two torx screws and that was easy.
I think 4 other machines were purchased without issues
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17% of reviews are 1-starUsually I don't buy if there is more than 11%. 17% is a lot.From mold inside, to warranty nightmare, machine that breaks down after not even a year, it might be better and cheaper to get a coffee at Starbucks every morning for that price.
Owned this for almost 3 yrs, bought $299 during Prime Day. No issues whatsoever. Maintenance is easy and no molds.
I've owned this exact model since 2022, and we love it. Paid $500 then, so this is a great price for a new unit.
But it does require regular maintenance. Here is a helpful video so you know what's involved before pulling the trigger. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yPUnMh_qkp8
I got a like-new one for 218. It had no sign of being used with a refurbished sticker. I don't like it and plan to return it. 1. It spits some water when turning on and off for cleaning. The process takes long time. 2. The milk tank needs to be cleaned frequently. 3. The clean indicator turns on even the waste tank only half full. 4. Cannot switch to different coffee beans if the coffee beans not used up. 5. I typically drink 10 oz but this machine can produce less than 8 oz at maximal setting. 6. Need to dump waste water frequently.
This is all common with most fully automatic machines. At least entry level ones.
I got used "like new" also. Although it looks like new, the previous owner yanked the brew group out and snapped a piece of the machine off so the brew group doesn't lock into place. Did a Reddit hack and put a piece of foam between the brew group and the door to keep it in place. Seems to be working fine but I'll test it until return period at end of Jan. $171 total for me after Amazon refunded me an additional 20%
That's an unbelievably good price for fully auto machine
I'd agree. I've got my DeLonghi super automatic. That's 7 years old and that has been repaired by myself several times. You can't get into a super automatic for $400, especially. I think Phillips is making it for several manufacturers. Great deal. Get some lavazza and go!!!
I have a manual gaggia classic machine with a sette grinder and I almost bought philips on that same deal. However, I would have had to sell my current setup and didn't feel like dealing with that.
Sounds like a personal problem. The great thing about super automatics is there's nothing manual about it. It's a pain enough to have to add water to the water tank or to empty the puck container. I want to get a super automatic that I can wire a hard water line to .. buy it and then sell your machine later and you're probably not going to get much money for it. Just so just throw it off your back porch or something
Between me, girlfriend and a bunch of friends...
My brother's machine, he thought he had a drip but he bought a new one and it used the same amount of water. It was just water in the drip tray, so its probably nothing
Girlfriend's machine had the line at the back of the machine unhooked, so as soon as you put the water resevoir in it would leak. Opened that up with two torx screws and that was easy.
I think 4 other machines were purchased without issues
Where do I get a torx screw driver or thing to undo mine
My water is leaking right out of box
this is a great deal. I have had mine for the past 3 years and it is workhorse. I bought it on sale for 550 back in 2022 and it has been worth every penny. The maintenance on these things are pretty simple too. Just rinse, wipe and lube the internals every couple weeks along with drain the nozzles with citric acid.
Since so many of the commenters own the unit... Does anyone else find the lattes are watered down? What am I doing wrong? I never enjoy my steamed milk. Always inferior to a cheap cafe
Nope, not with the machine itself (including the brew group which looked fine/clean/new/lubed) or any of the attachments, everything was there and didn't really look used. That said, the included water filter was obviously used (it was "activated"/full of water) so I tossed that and put a new filter in (I got a 10 pack of filters with black friday deal in 2023 direct from Phillips "free" with a new 5400 Lattego deal). I got this for my daughter so she can (hopefully) stop wasting money on going to coffee places, but I made like 20 different drinks with it to make sure that it worked, to tweek it to what she likes, etc. No problems at all, all of the main parts (the internals for heating water, grinder, brew group, etc.) are the same between the 3200 and 5400, the only difference is the 5400 has more software options(profiles! extra shot!) and a fancier GUI. It made drinks as well as the 5400 we have been using for a couple of years, although I had to add an extra shot manually with the 3200 to drinks like latte and cappucino vs. the extra shot setting doing it automatically with the 5400, but they still came out the same.
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No. Especially if you like darker roasts like French. Too much oil will clog the machine. If you like medium roasts such as Italian, this machine works fine.
Between online reviews (random forums, reddit, youtube) it isn't hard to find good beans that work well in super automatics, including darker roasts, which I prefer, although I have found some medium roasts that make great strong coffee (without being bitter) as well.
I think major bean sellers (like Lavazza which are mainly what I use now) usually mark each type of bean as superautomatic friendly or not as well, which makes things even easier.
You are right, using oily beans will gum up the machine, but if you stick with super automatic friendly roasts then imho this is pretty easy to clean, not much different than a normal coffee maker, rinse a few things(brew group, drip tray, puck repo, and lattego attachment, which is easy) and put it back together. It only takes me a few min to clean up the machine once every week or two, the self cleaning between power cycles, etc. keep it clean in between rinses.
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Since so many of the commenters own the unit... Does anyone else find the lattes are watered down? What am I doing wrong? I never enjoy my steamed milk. Always inferior to a cheap cafe
There are lots of things that you can do to help. You have to make sure that you have good, relatively fresh beans. Pick up some Lavazza Super Crema from Amazon to play with, it does well as a learning bean in super automatics, and many people just stick with this bean because it has great, consistent results. I personally like the Lavazza Crema E Gusto and Lavazza Crema E Aroma as well, I wait for sales and get them either from Amazon or Lavazza direct for around $13 per 2.2lb bag.
Then you need to make sure that you have the grinder set fine enough which mike take a few tries (adjust then pull a shot, adjust and pull another shot, etc.). You know you have a good setting when the puck stays solid after it drops into the waste container, and your shots are strong without being bitter and have a nice crema layer. Then of course there are the machine settings to adjust the bean "aroma" (number of seconds it grinds for each shot with translates to how many grams of ground bean is brewed), the adjust the amount of water you run through the puck, etc. again needing more experimenting to get it to taste. Also make sure that the temp of the water is at the highest setting (should be in the manual how to set that).
For the milk, the quality of the foam depends on the temp of the milk you are steaming (the colder the better to start), what kind of milk you are using(cow, oat, etc.) as well as the fatness (2% vs whole for example), differences are huge depending on thosee things. You can also use the "milk foam only" cycle to add more foam to your drinks if the max foam setting isn't enough. The phillips does good milk frothing, but not as good as hand frothing like at a coffee shop or even as other machines like some Delonghis, but it is more than good enough for at home brewing, and can be excellent with the right milk at the right temp.
There are also lots of youtube videos on how to tune these Phillips machines... this guy does a good job with helpful videos: https://www.youtube.com/@TomsCoffeeCorner
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My brother's machine, he thought he had a drip but he bought a new one and it used the same amount of water. It was just water in the drip tray, so its probably nothing
Girlfriend's machine had the line at the back of the machine unhooked, so as soon as you put the water resevoir in it would leak. Opened that up with two torx screws and that was easy.
I think 4 other machines were purchased without issues
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank trent0210
But it does require regular maintenance. Here is a helpful video so you know what's involved before pulling the trigger. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yPUnMh_
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My brother's machine, he thought he had a drip but he bought a new one and it used the same amount of water. It was just water in the drip tray, so its probably nothing
Girlfriend's machine had the line at the back of the machine unhooked, so as soon as you put the water resevoir in it would leak. Opened that up with two torx screws and that was easy.
I think 4 other machines were purchased without issues
My water is leaking right out of box
I think major bean sellers (like Lavazza which are mainly what I use now) usually mark each type of bean as superautomatic friendly or not as well, which makes things even easier.
You are right, using oily beans will gum up the machine, but if you stick with super automatic friendly roasts then imho this is pretty easy to clean, not much different than a normal coffee maker, rinse a few things(brew group, drip tray, puck repo, and lattego attachment, which is easy) and put it back together. It only takes me a few min to clean up the machine once every week or two, the self cleaning between power cycles, etc. keep it clean in between rinses.
Then you need to make sure that you have the grinder set fine enough which mike take a few tries (adjust then pull a shot, adjust and pull another shot, etc.). You know you have a good setting when the puck stays solid after it drops into the waste container, and your shots are strong without being bitter and have a nice crema layer. Then of course there are the machine settings to adjust the bean "aroma" (number of seconds it grinds for each shot with translates to how many grams of ground bean is brewed), the adjust the amount of water you run through the puck, etc. again needing more experimenting to get it to taste. Also make sure that the temp of the water is at the highest setting (should be in the manual how to set that).
For the milk, the quality of the foam depends on the temp of the milk you are steaming (the colder the better to start), what kind of milk you are using(cow, oat, etc.) as well as the fatness (2% vs whole for example), differences are huge depending on thosee things. You can also use the "milk foam only" cycle to add more foam to your drinks if the max foam setting isn't enough. The phillips does good milk frothing, but not as good as hand frothing like at a coffee shop or even as other machines like some Delonghis, but it is more than good enough for at home brewing, and can be excellent with the right milk at the right temp.
There are also lots of youtube videos on how to tune these Phillips machines... this guy does a good job with helpful videos: https://www.youtube.com/@TomsCoffeeCorn
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