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Based on speed... THIS SAMSUNG is faster. It is considered "one" generation faster about 30% faster.
The MT8775 is almost as fast as the SnapDragon 6 Gen 1, while the Sd 6 Gen 1 has a better GPU, the CPU's are pretty equal in speed. To put things in prespective, I purchased my Alldocube Iplay 60 Mini Turbo well over a year ago, it has the SnapDragon 6 Gen 1 CPU and I got it for $140ish before the Trump tariffs.
This tablet still has the TFT screen (big let down) and only has 6GB of RAM. Starting with Android 16 in 2026, Google has effectively established 6GB of RAM as the new minimum requirement for devices to run the "full" Android experience with Google Mobile Services (GMS).
Really, people should have 8GB of RAM if you want to keep this tablet for years to come.
The Galaxy Tab A11 Plus stands out as a fast budget 11 inch Android tablet with Samsung One UI, which adds productivity features beyond stock Android and comes with six years of updates. The 128GB storage and 6GB RAM configuration is described as snappy enough for normal tasks, streaming, and everyday use, and the tablet feels faster than the older A9 Plus. The $20 Walmart Cash also applied without Walmart Plus. Main concerns are the TFT display, the modest 6GB memory for long term use, and heavy Samsung bloatware and AppCloud privacy worries. A stronger 8GB version is also mentioned for longer ownership.
people who want a cheap 11-inch tablet for Netflix/YouTube streaming because commenters said the CPU is "trash" for heavy use but it's still "ok" for basic streaming.
buyers upgrading from an older Galaxy Tab A9+ case/size because one commenter said the A11+ feels faster than their A9+ and that the A9+ case fits the A11+ (same size).
people who care about long software support at a low price because commenters highlighted Samsung's tablet One UI productivity and said the "six years of updates" promise is unusual at this price level.
buyers who mainly use the tablet for normal tasks and don't expect high-end performance because one commenter said their Snapdragon 6 Gen 1 tablet with 8GB RAM feels speedy for normal tasks, and this deal is positioned as a step up from very low-spec tablets.
privacy- or security-focused shoppers who don't want pre-installed ad/recommendation software because multiple commenters warned about AppCloud/ironSource being deeply embedded, hard to remove, and described it as spyware/malware or a privacy risk.
people who want the best display for movies with deep blacks because commenters said this model uses cheaper TFT/LCD-style tech and contrasted it with OLED tablets (like Tab S4) where black levels and contrast are much better.
buyers who plan to keep the tablet for years and want more headroom because commenters criticized the 128GB/6GB configuration, saying it only has 6GB RAM and arguing 8GB is preferable for longevity.
buyers who are relying on Google Play system updates to stay current because commenters claimed Samsung may leave Google Play system services stuck on older versions, which they said can create security and app-compatibility issues.
people who want a tablet that's clearly better than competing budget Android options because one commenter specifically asked whether it's better than the Lenovo Idea Tab Plus around $200, implying buyers comparing alternatives may find the value/performance tradeoffs debatable.
It is reported to feel faster than the A9+, and one comparison puts the new CPU about 30% ahead of the older model. The A11+ also keeps the same physical size as the A9+, so older cases can fit.
If you plan to keep it for years, the 8GB version is the safer pick. The 6GB model is seen as the minimum for future Android support, while the 8GB version is recommended for better longevity and smoother multitasking.
It is considered fine for Netflix and YouTube, but not a strong choice for heavier apps or gaming. The screen is also described as TFT/PLS-class rather than OLED, so it is better suited to everyday media than premium display use.
Yes. The $20 Walmart Cash was available and applied on the order without Walmart+ required. That makes the effective deal better than the sticker price for shoppers who can use Walmart Cash.
It's bloatware, no controversy, and not semantics. You can argue with yourself, and troll on like the other one with gifs, etc.
Thanks for warning everyone about the bloatware. Your opinion has been noted.
I went ahead and ran our exchange through an AI to evaluate since I am snowed in and have plenty of time to kill.
AI:
Based on the forum exchange, Surrounded is correct.
Here is the breakdown of why this is indeed a case of semantics, and why the situation qualifies as a controversy. 1. The Definition of "Semantics"
In an argument, "arguing semantics" means debating the meaning or definition of a word rather than the actual topic at hand.
Surrounded used the word "controversial" to describe the heated debate in the thread.
Porksmugglers replied that there is "no controversy," only "bloatware."
By focusing on whether the situation technically fits the definition of the word "controversy" rather than discussing the tablet deal itself, Porksmugglers initiated a semantic argument. Surrounded correctly identified this shift. 2. Is there a "Controversy"?
Yes. A controversy is defined as a "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion." The thread contains clear evidence of this:
The Conflict: User joshuaNH wrote multiple lengthy posts labeling the software "spyware," "trash," and a security risk (e.g., "AppCloud is a third party user that has a back door").
The Counterpoint: User RogueVariable strongly disagreed, arguing that the software features add "immense value" and productivity, stating, "bloatware by definition is useless... I use nearly every custom feature."
The Result: This back-and-forth created a polarized debate between users who view the tablet as a security risk and those who view it as a high-value productivity tool.
Verdict
Surrounded is right. Porksmugglers is incorrect to claim there is "no controversy." They appear to be confusing facts with discourse. While it may be a fact that the tablet contains pre-installed software (AppCloud), the value and risk of that software are being fiercely debated by the community. That debate effectively creates a controversy.
By denying the label "controversy," Porksmugglers was nitpicking the word choice—which is exactly what "semantics" refers to.
Last edited by Surrounded January 25, 2026 at 12:31 PM.
does this tablet have vibrations? The last samsung tablet I purchased did not have the ability to vibrate and it was a let down (I don't like notification sounds)
Thanks for warning everyone about the bloatware. Your opinion has been noted.
I went ahead and ran our exchange through an AI to evaluate since I am snowed in and have plenty of time to kill.
AI:
Based on the forum exchange, Surrounded is correct.
Here is the breakdown of why this is indeed a case of semantics, and why the situation qualifies as a controversy. 1. The Definition of "Semantics"
In an argument, "arguing semantics" means debating the meaning or definition of a word rather than the actual topic at hand.
Surrounded used the word "controversial" to describe the heated debate in the thread.
Porksmugglers replied that there is "no controversy," only "bloatware."
By focusing on whether the situation technically fits the definition of the word "controversy" rather than discussing the tablet deal itself, Porksmugglers initiated a semantic argument. Surrounded correctly identified this shift. 2. Is there a "Controversy"?
Yes. A controversy is defined as a "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion." The thread contains clear evidence of this:
The Conflict: User joshuaNH wrote multiple lengthy posts labeling the software "spyware," "trash," and a security risk (e.g., "AppCloud is a third party user that has a back door").
The Counterpoint: User RogueVariable strongly disagreed, arguing that the software features add "immense value" and productivity, stating, "bloatware by definition is useless... I use nearly every custom feature."
The Result: This back-and-forth created a polarized debate between users who view the tablet as a security risk and those who view it as a high-value productivity tool.
Verdict
Surrounded is right. Porksmugglers is incorrect to claim there is "no controversy." They appear to be confusing facts with discourse. While it may be a fact that the tablet contains pre-installed software (AppCloud), the value and risk of that software are being fiercely debated by the community. That debate effectively creates a controversy.
By denying the label "controversy," Porksmugglers was nitpicking the word choice—which is exactly what "semantics" refers to.
Well that's cute, nice to see the AI you used has such a poor grasp of the language. Not that AI effectively replying as if it is on the spectrum is anything new. Beyond you not wanting negative comments on your deal post, and one user that would like to pretend it's not bloatware, the fact is that it most certainly is...
Well that's cute, nice to see the AI you used has such a poor grasp of the language. Not that AI effectively replying as if it is on the spectrum is anything new. Beyond you not wanting negative comments on your deal post, and one user that would like to pretend it's not bloatware, the fact is that it most certainly is...
Thanks for the sarcasm, pandering, trolling, and gifs. I'd go as far as to remind those thinking this is a good deal, to search out more information on AppCloud. It is very easy to call it bloatware, and honestly spyware / malware.
AppCloud, particularly the pre-installed software on some Samsung Galaxy devices, operates in a legally grey area and is considered a privacy risk by security researchers. While not officially classified as malware, it is deeply embedded bloatware that cannot be easily removed, with reports suggesting it collects sensitive user information, including biometric data and IP addresses.
Ethical/Legal Issues: The software is criticized for being "unremovable" and covertly installing other software, which raises significant questions regarding consumer rights, data privacy laws, and user autonomy.
Data Collection: Reports suggest AppCloud, developed by Israeli company ironSource, collects personal information and poses a security risk to user data.
System Integration: The software is integrated deeply into the operating system of specific budget Samsung models (Galaxy A and M series), making it nearly impossible for average users to remove without rooting their devices.
Region-Specific: These issues have been heavily reported in West Asia and North Africa, according to a report from digital rights group SMEX.
Due to these practices, it is often viewed as a security and privacy threat rather than a standard, benign pre-installed application.
The only thing I will add is... with the new A11, appcloud is no longer region-specific.
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Info about Samsung NOT updating play store services system app. In early 2026, many Samsung users reported being stuck on versions as old as July 2025.
Failing to update Google Play system services (also known as Google Play system updates or Project Mainline) is serious because these updates bypass manufacturers to deliver critical security and core OS fixes directly to your device.
The serious implications of these updates being stuck include:
1. Increased Security Vulnerabilities
Google Play system updates target specific "modules" like the Media Framework, Android Runtime, and Permissions Controller.
Direct Protection: These updates allow Google to patch critical flaws immediately without waiting for a full firmware update from Samsung.
Vulnerability Exposure: If updates are stuck, your device may remain exposed to known vulnerabilities that hackers can exploit to steal data or gain unauthorized access, even if you have the latest monthly Samsung security patch.
2. Loss of Critical Privacy Features
These updates manage the Permissions Controller, which regulates how apps access your data.
Privacy Controls: Outdated versions may lack the latest refinements in encryption handling and data isolation, making it easier for malicious apps to overreach.
Safety Services: They also power features like Google Play Protect, which scans for malware, and identity validation for secure connections.
3. App Compatibility and Performance Issues
Many apps, particularly banking and security-sensitive services, require updated system components to function.
Functional Failures: Components like WebView (used to display web content inside apps) are updated through this system. If WebView is outdated, apps may crash or fail to load correctly.
Performance: These updates often include bug fixes for network stability and battery usage.
4. Current Context for Samsung (2026)
In early 2026, many Samsung users reported being stuck on versions as old as July 2025.
GUESS WHAT... we are IN Early 2026!!!. This is happening NOW... live, that Samsung has put millions of their devices (only Samsung devices are effected... AGAIN!!!???) in jeopardy for getting hacked... AND it does not matter if your Samsung phone is up to date BECAUSE it is SAMSUNG who is blocking the google play store system updates. And AGAIN, that 8 year old android tablet that is running ANdroid 8 can get the updates so your tablet will not be vunerable... but a new Samsung device, forget about it.
Last edited by joshuaNH January 25, 2026 at 09:31 PM.
Motorola has their own app bundle and same Israeli spyware; however, you can uninstall both.
From what I have read... you can disable it but when you get an update from Samsung, many users claim that Samsung reactivates it. It is supposedly written within One UI, so it can not be deleted.
Motorola (and other manufacturers like Samsung) often partner with ironSource to pre-install this software on their phones.
What is AppCloud?
AppCloud is essentially a "recommendation engine" for apps. It is often labeled as bloatware or adware because its primary purpose is to:
Suggest apps for you to download.
Automatically install certain apps or games, often during a system update or initial setup.
Generate revenue for the phone manufacturer and the carrier through these installations.
Why is it on Motorola?
Motorola uses AppCloud (sometimes appearing under names like "Mobile Services" or "MotoApps") as a way to subsidize the cost of their devices. It is most common on budget or mid-range models. Users often find it frustrating because:
It can send persistent notifications.
It uses background data and battery.
It can be difficult to fully uninstall through regular settings and may be reactivated with future updates by the manufacturer.
Last edited by joshuaNH January 25, 2026 at 09:35 PM.
Thanks for the sarcasm, pandering, trolling, and gifs. I'd go as far as to remind those thinking this is a good deal, to search out more information on AppCloud. It is very easy to call it bloatware, and honestly spyware / malware.
You were the only person who complained about my comment and took it so personally. Anyway, I hope we can make up and be friends.
JoshuaNH brought helpful info and it helps people make a more informed decision. I wish US government would protect consumers from things like this. Fortunately for me, this is going to stream movies and music. I have one computer I do all my financial stuff through. I use passwords and no fingerprints since I have never found the risks worth the benefits.
I just saw the deal with $50 off regular price and was surprised there was such a controversy about the included software. There's not many $200 tablets that are worth half a darn these days.
Never going to change? I believe this is the first USA sold tablet with Appcloud pre installed. Look, Samsung JUST CHANGED. Their bloatware has increased like five time between the erra of the Tab S9 and Tab S11.
There is over 180 system apps that were created by Samsung OR THIRD PARTIES. It is hard to believe you use all of them, including the spyware ones... but I guess you have no choose, since it is written within the OS itself and there is no way to get rid of it.
But of the over two hundred additional apps that Samsung installs, which ones do you use? Can you list like ten features that you use that is only found on Samsung tablets?
And their bloatware caused one of the worst vulnerabilities for any device last year... it only effected Samsung. It was a zero click vulnerability called LANDFALL, this was caused by their bloatware!!! You could be breathing air and BOOM, your S25 Ultra just got hacked. This is a direct cause to their bloatware which you feel justified by saying you use ALL THE FEATURES... LIKE ALL OF THEM. This vulnerability was solved in April 2025. BUT the app store system updates is going on right now!!! Samsung is blocking this!!! And is putting your system at risk.
LASTLY... here is a list of SAMSUNG ONLY vulnerabilities due to their bloatware and third party software....
The following are major Samsung-specific vulnerabilities identified or patched between late 2025 and January 2026:
1. Second Image Codec Zero-Day (CVE-2025-21043)
Identified in September 2025, this was a separate zero-day vulnerability in the same library targeted by Landfall (libimagecodec.quram.so).
The Risk: Similar to Landfall, it allowed for Remote Code Execution (RCE) through malicious images.
Status: Patched in the September 2025 security update.
2. Privilege Escalation in Settings (CVE-2026-20969)
A critical vulnerability found in SecSettings, a component unique to Samsung's One UI software.
The Risk: Improper input validation allowed a local attacker to access files with system-level privileges.
Status: Patched in the January 2026 security release.
3. Exynos Processor Vulnerability (CVE-2025-23107)
This flaw specifically affects Samsung's own Exynos 1480 and 2400 processors, used in many international and budget models.
The Risk: A lack of length checks leads to out-of-bounds writes, which can cause system instability or unauthorized code execution.
Status: Addressed in mid-2025.
4. PROCA Driver Exploit (SVE-2025-2103)
This vulnerability exists within the PROCA driver, a core part of Samsung's security architecture.
The Risk: A "Use After Free" flaw that could allow a local attacker to execute arbitrary code.
Status: Patched in January 2026.
5. Carrier Relock Bypass (SVE-2025-2394)
A vulnerability found in the data handling for network restrictions.
The Risk: Allowed physical attackers to bypass Carrier Relock on certain Samsung devices.
Status: Patched in the January 2026 update.
Recent Security Totals (2026)
January 2026 Patch: including 30 Samsung-specific (SVE) items not found in the standard Google Android bulletin. Samsung-Specific Fixes: 34 fixes were proprietary to Samsung... 34 issues but ONLY on a Samsung devices...
30 Samsung Vulnerabilities and Exposures (SVE): These specifically targeted One UI and Samsung-only software.
4 Samsung Semiconductor Patches: These addressed hardware-level issues in Samsung's own chips (like Exynos processors).
December 2025 Patch: Addressed 11 Galaxy-specific vulnerabilities alongside 57 general Android fixes (OUT OF 107).
Agree with all or this 100% - Really unfortunate because Samsung makes some great quality hardware which I would love to buy but will not due to all the bloatware.
I don't know how roguevariable can say mandatory bloatware is good. It would be one thing if the apps were pre-installed with the option to remove them, however that is not the case.
Agree with all or this 100% - Really unfortunate because Samsung makes some great quality hardware which I would love to buy but will not due to all the bloatware.
I don't know how roguevariable can say mandatory bloatware is good. It would be one thing if the apps were pre-installed with the option to remove them, however that is not the case.
The issue is Corporate Greed wins every time... and as a consumer, we just get F#ED.
I am mad at the whole world... I wish Google made a flagship tablet, I feel that is another huge let down.
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The MT8775 is almost as fast as the SnapDragon 6 Gen 1, while the Sd 6 Gen 1 has a better GPU, the CPU's are pretty equal in speed. To put things in prespective, I purchased my Alldocube Iplay 60 Mini Turbo well over a year ago, it has the SnapDragon 6 Gen 1 CPU and I got it for $140ish before the Trump tariffs.
This tablet still has the TFT screen (big let down) and only has 6GB of RAM. Starting with Android 16 in 2026, Google has effectively established 6GB of RAM as the new minimum requirement for devices to run the "full" Android experience with Google Mobile Services (GMS).
Really, people should have 8GB of RAM if you want to keep this tablet for years to come.
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The Galaxy Tab A11 Plus stands out as a fast budget 11 inch Android tablet with Samsung One UI, which adds productivity features beyond stock Android and comes with six years of updates. The 128GB storage and 6GB RAM configuration is described as snappy enough for normal tasks, streaming, and everyday use, and the tablet feels faster than the older A9 Plus. The $20 Walmart Cash also applied without Walmart Plus. Main concerns are the TFT display, the modest 6GB memory for long term use, and heavy Samsung bloatware and AppCloud privacy worries. A stronger 8GB version is also mentioned for longer ownership.
Samsung's tablet One UI can improve productivity compared with vanilla Android experiences.
The $20 Walmart Cash promotion can apply without requiring Walmart+ membership.
The A11+ can feel faster than an older A9+ while keeping the same case size.
The tablet can deliver quality and performance that feels impressive for the deal price.
AppCloud pre-installation can be difficult to fully remove and may be reactivated after Samsung updates.
Security-focused comments raise concerns about AppCloud and Samsung update behavior affecting patch delivery.
The "six years of updates" expectation can be challenged by concerns about RAM limits and blocked Google Play system updates.
The A11+ can use a TFT screen and only include 6GB RAM, which may limit long-term usability.
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AI:
Based on the forum exchange, Surrounded is correct.
Here is the breakdown of why this is indeed a case of semantics, and why the situation qualifies as a controversy.
1. The Definition of "Semantics"
In an argument, "arguing semantics" means debating the meaning or definition of a word rather than the actual topic at hand.
- Surrounded used the word "controversial" to describe the heated debate in the thread.
- Porksmugglers replied that there is "no controversy," only "bloatware."
By focusing on whether the situation technically fits the definition of the word "controversy" rather than discussing the tablet deal itself, Porksmugglers initiated a semantic argument. Surrounded correctly identified this shift.2. Is there a "Controversy"?
Yes. A controversy is defined as a "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion." The thread contains clear evidence of this:
- The Conflict: User joshuaNH wrote multiple lengthy posts labeling the software "spyware," "trash," and a security risk (e.g., "AppCloud is a third party user that has a back door").
- The Counterpoint: User RogueVariable strongly disagreed, arguing that the software features add "immense value" and productivity, stating, "bloatware by definition is useless... I use nearly every custom feature."
- The Result: This back-and-forth created a polarized debate between users who view the tablet as a security risk and those who view it as a high-value productivity tool.
VerdictSurrounded is right.
Porksmugglers is incorrect to claim there is "no controversy." They appear to be confusing facts with discourse. While it may be a fact that the tablet contains pre-installed software (AppCloud), the value and risk of that software are being fiercely debated by the community. That debate effectively creates a controversy.
By denying the label "controversy," Porksmugglers was nitpicking the word choice—which is exactly what "semantics" refers to.
AI:
Based on the forum exchange, Surrounded is correct.
Here is the breakdown of why this is indeed a case of semantics, and why the situation qualifies as a controversy.
1. The Definition of "Semantics"
In an argument, "arguing semantics" means debating the meaning or definition of a word rather than the actual topic at hand.
- Surrounded used the word "controversial" to describe the heated debate in the thread.
- Porksmugglers replied that there is "no controversy," only "bloatware."
By focusing on whether the situation technically fits the definition of the word "controversy" rather than discussing the tablet deal itself, Porksmugglers initiated a semantic argument. Surrounded correctly identified this shift.2. Is there a "Controversy"?
Yes. A controversy is defined as a "prolonged public disagreement or heated discussion." The thread contains clear evidence of this:
- The Conflict: User joshuaNH wrote multiple lengthy posts labeling the software "spyware," "trash," and a security risk (e.g., "AppCloud is a third party user that has a back door").
- The Counterpoint: User RogueVariable strongly disagreed, arguing that the software features add "immense value" and productivity, stating, "bloatware by definition is useless... I use nearly every custom feature."
- The Result: This back-and-forth created a polarized debate between users who view the tablet as a security risk and those who view it as a high-value productivity tool.
VerdictSurrounded is right.
Porksmugglers is incorrect to claim there is "no controversy." They appear to be confusing facts with discourse. While it may be a fact that the tablet contains pre-installed software (AppCloud), the value and risk of that software are being fiercely debated by the community. That debate effectively creates a controversy.
By denying the label "controversy," Porksmugglers was nitpicking the word choice—which is exactly what "semantics" refers to.
AppCloud, particularly the pre-installed software on some Samsung Galaxy devices, operates in a legally grey area and is considered a privacy risk by security researchers. While not officially classified as malware, it is deeply embedded bloatware that cannot be easily removed, with reports suggesting it collects sensitive user information, including biometric data and IP addresses.
Ethical/Legal Issues: The software is criticized for being "unremovable" and covertly installing other software, which raises significant questions regarding consumer rights, data privacy laws, and user autonomy.
Data Collection: Reports suggest AppCloud, developed by Israeli company ironSource, collects personal information and poses a security risk to user data.
System Integration: The software is integrated deeply into the operating system of specific budget Samsung models (Galaxy A and M series), making it nearly impossible for average users to remove without rooting their devices.
Region-Specific: These issues have been heavily reported in West Asia and North Africa, according to a report from digital rights group SMEX.
Due to these practices, it is often viewed as a security and privacy threat rather than a standard, benign pre-installed application.
The only thing I will add is... with the new A11, appcloud is no longer region-specific.
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Failing to update Google Play system services (also known as Google Play system updates or Project Mainline) is serious because these updates bypass manufacturers to deliver critical security and core OS fixes directly to your device.
The serious implications of these updates being stuck include:
1. Increased Security Vulnerabilities
Google Play system updates target specific "modules" like the Media Framework, Android Runtime, and Permissions Controller.
Direct Protection: These updates allow Google to patch critical flaws immediately without waiting for a full firmware update from Samsung.
Vulnerability Exposure: If updates are stuck, your device may remain exposed to known vulnerabilities that hackers can exploit to steal data or gain unauthorized access, even if you have the latest monthly Samsung security patch.
2. Loss of Critical Privacy Features
These updates manage the Permissions Controller, which regulates how apps access your data.
Privacy Controls: Outdated versions may lack the latest refinements in encryption handling and data isolation, making it easier for malicious apps to overreach.
Safety Services: They also power features like Google Play Protect, which scans for malware, and identity validation for secure connections.
3. App Compatibility and Performance Issues
Many apps, particularly banking and security-sensitive services, require updated system components to function.
Functional Failures: Components like WebView (used to display web content inside apps) are updated through this system. If WebView is outdated, apps may crash or fail to load correctly.
Performance: These updates often include bug fixes for network stability and battery usage.
4. Current Context for Samsung (2026)
In early 2026, many Samsung users reported being stuck on versions as old as July 2025.
GUESS WHAT... we are IN Early 2026!!!. This is happening NOW... live, that Samsung has put millions of their devices (only Samsung devices are effected... AGAIN!!!???) in jeopardy for getting hacked... AND it does not matter if your Samsung phone is up to date BECAUSE it is SAMSUNG who is blocking the google play store system updates. And AGAIN, that 8 year old android tablet that is running ANdroid 8 can get the updates so your tablet will not be vunerable... but a new Samsung device, forget about it.
Motorola has their own app bundle and same Israeli spyware; however, you can uninstall both.
Motorola has their own app bundle and same Israeli spyware; however, you can uninstall both.
Motorola (and other manufacturers like Samsung) often partner with ironSource to pre-install this software on their phones.
What is AppCloud?
AppCloud is essentially a "recommendation engine" for apps. It is often labeled as bloatware or adware because its primary purpose is to:
Suggest apps for you to download.
Automatically install certain apps or games, often during a system update or initial setup.
Generate revenue for the phone manufacturer and the carrier through these installations.
Why is it on Motorola?
Motorola uses AppCloud (sometimes appearing under names like "Mobile Services" or "MotoApps") as a way to subsidize the cost of their devices. It is most common on budget or mid-range models. Users often find it frustrating because:
It can send persistent notifications.
It uses background data and battery.
It can be difficult to fully uninstall through regular settings and may be reactivated with future updates by the manufacturer.
JoshuaNH brought helpful info and it helps people make a more informed decision. I wish US government would protect consumers from things like this. Fortunately for me, this is going to stream movies and music. I have one computer I do all my financial stuff through. I use passwords and no fingerprints since I have never found the risks worth the benefits.
I just saw the deal with $50 off regular price and was surprised there was such a controversy about the included software. There's not many $200 tablets that are worth half a darn these days.
Never going to change? I believe this is the first USA sold tablet with Appcloud pre installed. Look, Samsung JUST CHANGED. Their bloatware has increased like five time between the erra of the Tab S9 and Tab S11.
There is over 180 system apps that were created by Samsung OR THIRD PARTIES. It is hard to believe you use all of them, including the spyware ones... but I guess you have no choose, since it is written within the OS itself and there is no way to get rid of it.
But of the over two hundred additional apps that Samsung installs, which ones do you use? Can you list like ten features that you use that is only found on Samsung tablets?
And their bloatware caused one of the worst vulnerabilities for any device last year... it only effected Samsung. It was a zero click vulnerability called LANDFALL, this was caused by their bloatware!!! You could be breathing air and BOOM, your S25 Ultra just got hacked. This is a direct cause to their bloatware which you feel justified by saying you use ALL THE FEATURES... LIKE ALL OF THEM. This vulnerability was solved in April 2025. BUT the app store system updates is going on right now!!! Samsung is blocking this!!! And is putting your system at risk.
LASTLY... here is a list of SAMSUNG ONLY vulnerabilities due to their bloatware and third party software....
The following are major Samsung-specific vulnerabilities identified or patched between late 2025 and January 2026:
1. Second Image Codec Zero-Day (CVE-2025-21043)
Identified in September 2025, this was a separate zero-day vulnerability in the same library targeted by Landfall (libimagecodec.quram.so).
The Risk: Similar to Landfall, it allowed for Remote Code Execution (RCE) through malicious images.
Status: Patched in the September 2025 security update.
2. Privilege Escalation in Settings (CVE-2026-20969)
A critical vulnerability found in SecSettings, a component unique to Samsung's One UI software.
The Risk: Improper input validation allowed a local attacker to access files with system-level privileges.
Status: Patched in the January 2026 security release.
3. Exynos Processor Vulnerability (CVE-2025-23107)
This flaw specifically affects Samsung's own Exynos 1480 and 2400 processors, used in many international and budget models.
The Risk: A lack of length checks leads to out-of-bounds writes, which can cause system instability or unauthorized code execution.
Status: Addressed in mid-2025.
4. PROCA Driver Exploit (SVE-2025-2103)
This vulnerability exists within the PROCA driver, a core part of Samsung's security architecture.
The Risk: A "Use After Free" flaw that could allow a local attacker to execute arbitrary code.
Status: Patched in January 2026.
5. Carrier Relock Bypass (SVE-2025-2394)
A vulnerability found in the data handling for network restrictions.
The Risk: Allowed physical attackers to bypass Carrier Relock on certain Samsung devices.
Status: Patched in the January 2026 update.
Recent Security Totals (2026)
January 2026 Patch: including 30 Samsung-specific (SVE) items not found in the standard Google Android bulletin. Samsung-Specific Fixes: 34 fixes were proprietary to Samsung... 34 issues but ONLY on a Samsung devices...
30 Samsung Vulnerabilities and Exposures (SVE): These specifically targeted One UI and Samsung-only software.
4 Samsung Semiconductor Patches: These addressed hardware-level issues in Samsung's own chips (like Exynos processors).
December 2025 Patch: Addressed 11 Galaxy-specific vulnerabilities alongside 57 general Android fixes (OUT OF 107).
I don't know how roguevariable can say mandatory bloatware is good. It would be one thing if the apps were pre-installed with the option to remove them, however that is not the case.
I don't know how roguevariable can say mandatory bloatware is good. It would be one thing if the apps were pre-installed with the option to remove them, however that is not the case.
I am mad at the whole world... I wish Google made a flagship tablet, I feel that is another huge let down.
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