Lenovo has
Lenovo ThinkPad P16 Gen 2 Mobile Workstation Laptop (Storm Grey, 21FA0052US) on sale for
$1759.
Shipping is free.
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Specs:
- Intel Core i7-14700HX (20-core / 28-thread; P-cores up to 5.50 GHz, E-cores up to 3.90 GHz, 33MB cache) Processor
- 16" 3840x2400 IPS Anti-glare, HDR400, 100% DCI-P3, 800 nits, 60Hz Display
- 64GB DDR5-5600 (2x32GB SODIMM) RAM Memory
- 1TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal SSD Storage
- NVIDIA RTX 3500 Ada Generation 12GB GDDR6 Graphics
- Intel Wi-Fi 6E AX211 2x2 + Bluetooth 5.3 + NFC Wireless
- 1080p FHD IR Hybrid camera with privacy shutter, dual far-field microphones Webcam
- Backlit keyboard w/ numeric keypad; fingerprint reader integrated
- Ports:
- 2x USB-C Thunderbolt 4 (40Gbps, DisplayPort 2.1)
- 1x USB-C 10Gbps
- 2x USB-A 5Gbps (1 always on)
- 1x HDMI 2.1 (up to 8K@60Hz / 4K@240Hz)
- 1x Headphone/microphone combo jack
- 1x Power-in
- Windows 11 Pro operating system
- 94Whr battery w/ 230W AC power adapter
- 14.33" x 10.47" x 1.19" (6.5 lbs)
Warranty: 1-year courier or carry-in
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Pros:
four RAM slots...and 64gb is already in the $700+ range on its own, making the laptop $1000, and it really is $1000 worth of kit. I have all four of mine populated (two under keyboard, two under bottom cover).
The 3500 Ada is somewhere between a 4070 and a 5070 (laptop versions). Quadro class cards have ECC memory and do not particularly enjoy (read: cannot) be overclocked. But they are dead stable. Afterburner wont do much with it unless theres some beta version out which can tinker with the pro class cards.
The LCD is actually higher than 4k and covers full gamut. It is accurate (again, pros care about this stuff).
The absolute best support in the PC business. Parts are overnighted to you without much fuss, or you will get a technician to call you within a few hours to schedule a repair. They pick up calls 24/7/365 domestically (usually from NC or VA). You need to upgrade to on-site to get these perks. There is usually a coupon floating around on their banner ads to get a discount. worth the $200 or so to do so, as thinkpad parts are obscenly expensive to buy on your own.
LIkely the usual stainproof and drop resistant and spill resistant build that comes with thinkpads. Your foot will likely break before this does if you break it.
Cons:
Heavy - but what do you expect? This is similar to a gaming laptop.
No ethernet jack - this is a major deal for workstations.
60 Hz screen - Usually this is the default option unless you go down to 2k (basically the same screen from the Legion 5 Pro)..and no OLED at 165 hz.
Despite the MXM board letting you swap graphics...you will likely have to get boards specifically for this model from Lenovo because the BIOS are not compatible between manufacturers. I was looking to use an RTX 5000 board from a Dell Precision in my P15...no go. And the only 5000 boards for P15 are like $600...not worth it for four year old tech.
You can theoretically get faster graphics for this money if you get a dedicated gaming laptop, but definitely not with this amount of memory. Gaming is secondary on these creator-focused machines. You can even confirm this by how it only ships with a 170w brick. Most gaming laptops have 230+ watt bricks.
My P15 is pushing five years old, and definitely shows its age (the warranty ended last summer), but it absolutely feels like an extension of my workflow more than any prior laptop. The keys are the same "smiley" keys that they have had for over a decade now. I have a first gen OLED with my laptop (every laptop in 2021 with an OLED used the same 16:9 panel sold by Samsung). Not a trace of burn in, but it is very power hungry. I have a 10th gen Xeon which always turns the fans up, so you will need TPFanControl or a similar utility to turn down the noise.
I recommend adding 3 year onsite ($167) and the battery replacement ($40). You can always add accidental later...yes, you read that right. You can add it when you actually need it!
Basically, this is a slightly less hardcore desktop replacement, with repairability, durability, support, and ergonomics increased, but with raw performance decreased.
I should mention that I dont use any ISV software, but if you do any CAD, GIS, or financial calculations, then the benefits speak for themselves.
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Pros:
four RAM slots...and 64gb is already in the $700+ range on its own, making the laptop $1000, and it really is $1000 worth of kit. I have all four of mine populated (two under keyboard, two under bottom cover).
The 3500 Ada is somewhere between a 4070 and a 5070 (laptop versions). Quadro class cards have ECC memory and do not particularly enjoy (read: cannot) be overclocked. But they are dead stable. Afterburner wont do much with it unless theres some beta version out which can tinker with the pro class cards.
The LCD is actually higher than 4k and covers full gamut. It is accurate (again, pros care about this stuff).
The absolute best support in the PC business. Parts are overnighted to you without much fuss, or you will get a technician to call you within a few hours to schedule a repair. They pick up calls 24/7/365 domestically (usually from NC or VA). You need to upgrade to on-site to get these perks. There is usually a coupon floating around on their banner ads to get a discount. worth the $200 or so to do so, as thinkpad parts are obscenly expensive to buy on your own.
LIkely the usual stainproof and drop resistant and spill resistant build that comes with thinkpads. Your foot will likely break before this does if you break it.
Cons:
Heavy - but what do you expect? This is similar to a gaming laptop.
No ethernet jack - this is a major deal for workstations.
60 Hz screen - Usually this is the default option unless you go down to 2k (basically the same screen from the Legion 5 Pro)..and no OLED at 165 hz.
Despite the MXM board letting you swap graphics...you will likely have to get boards specifically for this model from Lenovo because the BIOS are not compatible between manufacturers. I was looking to use an RTX 5000 board from a Dell Precision in my P15...no go. And the only 5000 boards for P15 are like $600...not worth it for four year old tech.
You can theoretically get faster graphics for this money if you get a dedicated gaming laptop, but definitely not with this amount of memory. Gaming is secondary on these creator-focused machines. You can even confirm this by how it only ships with a 170w brick. Most gaming laptops have 230+ watt bricks.
My P15 is pushing five years old, and definitely shows its age (the warranty ended last summer), but it absolutely feels like an extension of my workflow more than any prior laptop. The keys are the same "smiley" keys that they have had for over a decade now. I have a first gen OLED with my laptop (every laptop in 2021 with an OLED used the same 16:9 panel sold by Samsung). Not a trace of burn in, but it is very power hungry. I have a 10th gen Xeon which always turns the fans up, so you will need TPFanControl or a similar utility to turn down the noise.
I recommend adding 3 year onsite ($167) and the battery replacement ($40). You can always add accidental later...yes, you read that right. You can add it when you actually need it!
Basically, this is a slightly less hardcore desktop replacement, with repairability, durability, support, and ergonomics increased, but with raw performance decreased.
I should mention that I dont use any ISV software, but if you do any CAD, GIS, or financial calculations, then the benefits speak for themselves.
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First, I realize this isn't newest top of the line. I understand the use case for a laptop like this - I'm an Engineer.
I wish:
- It had a RTXA5000.
- It had more than 64GB memory - memory is expensive now days even if this can be updated.
- Wifi 7
- I would like to see an i9 version
- It was a tiny bit cheaper.
- EDIT: Oh yeah no Ethernet at least 2.5GbE or even 10GbE. This would be nice.
I think we are a year away from seeing better deals on this vintage of laptops.BTW has anyone seen the prices for the latest Dell Workstation Laptops with the Blackwell chips in them - upwards of $8000!!!! I remember the days where Macs were criticized for being way too expensive - Macs are now the value alternative to Windows. Even at the low end - best mini PC out there for bang for buck - Mac Mini!
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