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I have the Gen 3 Sub and can't recommend it enough. Get the 3 sub over the mini for sure. It's the same price right now. I have it paired with the Arc Ultra and the Era 100s as surrounds.
The Arc Ultra is better overall vs the Arc especially with dialogue but IMO, it's not worth the $400+ premium over the Arc soundbar at just $399
Sonos refurb deals here center on building a compact home theater with the Arc, Sub Gen 3, and Era 100s, with the strongest praise going to the soundstage, bass, and surround effect. The Arc and Sub combo is described as a big upgrade for living rooms and small rooms alike, and the Era 100s work well as surrounds or as a stereo pair. Refurb units repeatedly arrive looking new, often in sealed packaging, and carry the same one year warranty as new products. The main caution is that room size and acoustics matter, and the Sub Mini or Beam 2 can make more sense in smaller spaces.
Home theater buyers building a compact surround setup, because Arc, Sub 3, and Era 100s deliver convincing surround sound in smaller rooms.
Bedroom or small-room listeners who want a soundbar that stays balanced at close range, because Beam 2 sounds clearer than Beam 1 and works well in tiny spaces.
They often arrive looking brand new, sometimes even in sealed retail packaging with no visible wear. Several buyers reported refurbished Arc, Sub, and Era 100 units arriving packaged like new, with only minor signs of prior return use in rare cases.
Yes for most rooms: the Sub Gen 3 is only $10 more at $409 versus the refurb Sub Mini at $399, and it delivers noticeably more bass headroom. The Mini is still a good fit for smaller or medium rooms, but the Gen 3 is the better pick for living rooms and home theater.
Yes. The Arc plus Sub Gen 3 works with two Era 100s as rear surrounds, and that setup is described as sounding fully surround and very strong for music and movies. Officially Sonos supports two speakers, and Sonosequencer can extend the setup further if needed.
The regular Arc at $399 is widely treated as the better value, especially in non-huge rooms, because the Arc Ultra's dialogue and overall performance gains are not seen as worth the roughly $400+ premium. The Arc Ultra is better overall, but the price jump is hard to justify for many buyers.
Thoughts on getting sub 3, 2x 100s, and the Arc for $1162 on this deal: OR wait til the Adorama deal comes back that is the Arc Ultra, 2x 100s, and the Sub 4 for $1650ish or so.
Right now have a pretty entry level samsung soundbar with 2 very poor/weak surround speakers
$1162 for an Arc, Sub 3, and 100's is an insane deal as far as Sonos products go. Is the Ultra and Sub 4 an upgrade? Yes… is the "upgrade" in sound worth the $500 premium? That's up to your ears. I personally don't think so. It's such a minuscule difference and not worth the $$ premium.
Depending on size of your room and where your TV is located, getting the Ultra, Sub 3, 2-100's and and an extra Sub 3 would be a better deal. 2 subs are definitely better than 1… that's a fact.
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You can also get an extra pair of 100's for a stereo pair in another room… or use that same 100's with the Arc and use Sonosequencer to extend you L and R channels.
It's not worth it to upgrade from a Sub Mini to a Sub Ultra, right? ....right?
I was looking for a sub mini to pair with a stereo set of era 100's in a medium room. The sub mini is 399 refurbished, but the larger Sub gen3 is $10 more at $409. I didn't really need the big sub but for $10 more I went for it. These Gen 3 Sub deals are going to dry up very soon. You can't pair 2 sub mini's ever because it's implied by Sonos that 1 larger sub is better than 2 sub mini's...However, if you already have a mini in a smaller room / medium room or if you live in an apartment or condo, I've heard the sub mini is awesome for it's size. I can't say as I've never owned one. I have a sub 3 in my living room with an arc and it slams.
What do you all think of a set up consisting of the sub, arc, and move?
been holding off for a Q990 sound system deal but no good ones yet since search started.
For less than $1,100 i would grab an Arc, sub3 and era 100's. You can't beat them for the price with this refurbished sale. I've had this exact setup for years now and I paid full retail like $2,100. You won't be disappointed.
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Does anyone use the Era 100's as rear speakers to an Arc and sub?
I have an original arc, sub3 and 2 era 100's as surrounds. They sound really nice. I also really like having them on "full" while playing music, they are like a stereo set of era 100's then with the arc and sub also going. I just ordered 2 era 100's and a sub3 for my dining room. Do it for this price, it's a no brainer.
I currently have a Beam 1, sub mini and 2 one SLs. I really want to get the Arc but I hear that dialogue is not very clear on it compared to the Arc Ultra or Beam 2. I don't want to pay for the Ultra so I am leaning toward the refurbished Beam 2. My family room where this is going to is not very big. Thoughts? Beam 2 or Arc? Or is Beam 2 even a worthy upgrade to the Beam 1?
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The Arc Ultra is better overall vs the Arc especially with dialogue but IMO, it's not worth the $400+ premium over the Arc soundbar at just $399
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Sonos refurb deals here center on building a compact home theater with the Arc, Sub Gen 3, and Era 100s, with the strongest praise going to the soundstage, bass, and surround effect. The Arc and Sub combo is described as a big upgrade for living rooms and small rooms alike, and the Era 100s work well as surrounds or as a stereo pair. Refurb units repeatedly arrive looking new, often in sealed packaging, and carry the same one year warranty as new products. The main caution is that room size and acoustics matter, and the Sub Mini or Beam 2 can make more sense in smaller spaces.
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They often arrive looking brand new, sometimes even in sealed retail packaging with no visible wear. Several buyers reported refurbished Arc, Sub, and Era 100 units arriving packaged like new, with only minor signs of prior return use in rare cases.
Yes for most rooms: the Sub Gen 3 is only $10 more at $409 versus the refurb Sub Mini at $399, and it delivers noticeably more bass headroom. The Mini is still a good fit for smaller or medium rooms, but the Gen 3 is the better pick for living rooms and home theater.
Yes. The Arc plus Sub Gen 3 works with two Era 100s as rear surrounds, and that setup is described as sounding fully surround and very strong for music and movies. Officially Sonos supports two speakers, and Sonosequencer can extend the setup further if needed.
The regular Arc at $399 is widely treated as the better value, especially in non-huge rooms, because the Arc Ultra's dialogue and overall performance gains are not seen as worth the roughly $400+ premium. The Arc Ultra is better overall, but the price jump is hard to justify for many buyers.
Yes. Sonos certified refurbished items come with the same one-year warranty as a brand new product, which makes the refurb pricing easier to justify.
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Right now have a pretty entry level samsung soundbar with 2 very poor/weak surround speakers
Depending on size of your room and where your TV is located, getting the Ultra, Sub 3, 2-100's and and an extra Sub 3 would be a better deal. 2 subs are definitely better than 1… that's a fact.
Or
You can also get an extra pair of 100's for a stereo pair in another room… or use that same 100's with the Arc and use Sonosequencer to extend you L and R channels.
Or get both…
been holding off for a Q990 sound system deal but no good ones yet since search started.
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