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32GB DDR5 16x2 is what. $300 best price? 1TB Nvme is maybe $80 best priced. Rest of the computer for $399? Not enough exp with parts to know how good of a deal this is
32GB DDR5 16x2 is what. $300 best price? 1TB Nvme is maybe $80 best priced. Rest of the computer for $399? Not enough exp with parts to know how good of a deal this is
I'd say at 500 it's not bad but 600 feels like normal price plus this isn't guna be high quality parts even the ram will be oem quality not gaming stuff.
I'd say at 500 it's not bad but 600 feels like normal price plus this isn't guna be high quality parts even the ram will be oem quality not gaming stuff.
OK thank you. Just not sure how some of these lower end parts out when it's a deal. I guess if it's $200 off it's relatively high % out of $800 but gear hard to salvage for something else. I think you are right on this.
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32GB DDR5 16x2 is what. $300 best price? 1TB Nvme is maybe $80 best priced. Rest of the computer for $399? Not enough exp with parts to know how good of a deal this is
Sounds like a decent deal then. ty. I could use the ram (might be too slow though) and ssd. I have a 2070 card needs a place to stick it
2070 RTX
48GB DDR4.
I am lacking a CPU, MB, and Case/Power supply. Feels expensive to buy these when a bundle can probably replace what I got anyway at a cheap price. but the DDR4 RAM kind limits what I can use since newer chips and board are usually on DDR5 now.
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Sounds like a decent deal then. ty. I could use the ram (might be too slow though) and ssd. I have a 2070 card needs a place to stick it
2070 RTX
48GB DDR4.
I am lacking a CPU, MB, and Case/Power supply. Feels expensive to buy these when a bundle can probably replace what I got anyway at a cheap price. but the DDR4 RAM kind limits what I can use since newer chips and board are usually on DDR5 now.
Someone else mentioned that the power supply is only 280W. On top of that, the Ryzen "G" CPUs are great for playing games, but not for a "gaming PC".
On its own, the 8700G has a great integrated GPU (iGPU) for gaming. But it and the other "G" CPUs are one PCIe revision behind what's normal. In the case of 7000, 8000, and 9000 series, the "G" CPUs have PCIe 4.0 while the non-G CPUs can normally use PCIe 5.0. Basically, similar non-G Ryzen CPUs are better when paired with a discrete GPU (dGPU). But for a family computer where there might be occasional light gaming, the Ryzen "G" CPUs are a great choice.
It looks like your 2070 uses PCIe 3.0, so the 8700G probably wouldn't be a bottleneck. But the 8700G wouldn't be the best choice if you thought you might upgrade the 2070 in a few years. And as mentioned in the beginning, a 280W PSU is most likely too little.
Someone else mentioned that the power supply is only 280W. On top of that, the Ryzen "G" CPUs are great for playing games, but not for a "gaming PC".
On its own, the 8700G has a great integrated GPU (iGPU) for gaming. But it and the other "G" CPUs are one PCIe revision behind what's normal. In the case of 7000, 8000, and 9000 series, the "G" CPUs have PCIe 4.0 while the non-G CPUs can normally use PCIe 5.0. Basically, similar non-G Ryzen CPUs are better when paired with a discrete GPU (dGPU). But for a family computer where there might be occasional light gaming, the Ryzen "G" CPUs are a great choice.
It looks like your 2070 uses PCIe 3.0, so the 8700G probably wouldn't be a bottleneck. But the 8700G wouldn't be the best choice if you thought you might upgrade the 2070 in a few years. And as mentioned in the beginning, a 280W PSU is most likely too little.
Why buy a computer w/ a 3.1 rating. Almost 30% 1 star ratings. JUNK.
All those 1 star reviews are troubling. Is it crap hardware, or crap software... The latter can be dealt with - fresh windows install without the hp (or microslop) bloat. The former cannot. On paper it looks good; https://support.hp.com/ro-en/prod...ku=BP5E2AA
b650 chipset, socketed ram and ssd, reasonable IO, 2 slots. 280W p/s - good for a slot only gpu.
Wonder how many tried to do a clean windows install and still had issues.
This system does provide a reasonable value but the trade-off is the incorporation of relatively custom components in the form of an OEM motherboard and power supply.
This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.
On top of that, there's actually a custom 7-pin PWRCMD connector on the motherboard that comes from the power supply. The motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.
As such, this recommends at least three (3) possible approaches:
Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of their GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
Good luck!
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1tb ssd bottom 150
199 for cpu case psu board
1tb ssd bottom 150
199 for cpu case psu board
2070 RTX
48GB DDR4.
I am lacking a CPU, MB, and Case/Power supply. Feels expensive to buy these when a bundle can probably replace what I got anyway at a cheap price. but the DDR4 RAM kind limits what I can use since newer chips and board are usually on DDR5 now.
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I think it is a great PC for student and small business for generic use.
FYI: Not much room for upgrade, for it comes with a 280W PSU.
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Sounds like a decent deal then. ty. I could use the ram (might be too slow though) and ssd. I have a 2070 card needs a place to stick it
2070 RTX
48GB DDR4.
I am lacking a CPU, MB, and Case/Power supply. Feels expensive to buy these when a bundle can probably replace what I got anyway at a cheap price. but the DDR4 RAM kind limits what I can use since newer chips and board are usually on DDR5 now.
On its own, the 8700G has a great integrated GPU (iGPU) for gaming. But it and the other "G" CPUs are one PCIe revision behind what's normal. In the case of 7000, 8000, and 9000 series, the "G" CPUs have PCIe 4.0 while the non-G CPUs can normally use PCIe 5.0. Basically, similar non-G Ryzen CPUs are better when paired with a discrete GPU (dGPU). But for a family computer where there might be occasional light gaming, the Ryzen "G" CPUs are a great choice.
It looks like your 2070 uses PCIe 3.0, so the 8700G probably wouldn't be a bottleneck. But the 8700G wouldn't be the best choice if you thought you might upgrade the 2070 in a few years. And as mentioned in the beginning, a 280W PSU is most likely too little.
On its own, the 8700G has a great integrated GPU (iGPU) for gaming. But it and the other "G" CPUs are one PCIe revision behind what's normal. In the case of 7000, 8000, and 9000 series, the "G" CPUs have PCIe 4.0 while the non-G CPUs can normally use PCIe 5.0. Basically, similar non-G Ryzen CPUs are better when paired with a discrete GPU (dGPU). But for a family computer where there might be occasional light gaming, the Ryzen "G" CPUs are a great choice.
It looks like your 2070 uses PCIe 3.0, so the 8700G probably wouldn't be a bottleneck. But the 8700G wouldn't be the best choice if you thought you might upgrade the 2070 in a few years. And as mentioned in the beginning, a 280W PSU is most likely too little.
https://support.hp.com/ro-en/prod...ku=BP5E2
b650 chipset, socketed ram and ssd, reasonable IO, 2 slots. 280W p/s - good for a slot only gpu.
Wonder how many tried to do a clean windows install and still had issues.
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This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.
On top of that, there's actually a custom 7-pin PWRCMD connector on the motherboard that comes from the power supply. The motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.
As such, this recommends at least three (3) possible approaches:
- Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
- Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of their GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
- Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
Good luck!Jon
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