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forum threadDr.W posted Jul 10, 2026 2:04 PM

PNY NVIDIA GeForce RTX Pro 4500 Blackwell Single-Fan AI & Workstation Graphics Card; 32GB GDDR7, PCIe 5.0 x16 Interface; 82 RT Cores; 328 Tensor Cores $3299.99

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Jul 10, 2026 2:27 PM
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BIGBALL3RRJul 10, 2026 2:27 PM
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Wow... $3300 for a GPU..
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Jul 10, 2026 2:32 PM
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Elon69Jul 10, 2026 2:32 PM
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Compared 5090 vs. 4500 Pro


The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 offers massive core-count superiority, featuring 21,760 CUDA cores compared to the 10,496 CUDA cores found on the ⁠NVIDIA RTX Pro 4500 Blackwell. This represents a 107% advantage in raw parallel processing hardware for the RTX 5090, putting it in an entirely different tier for raw compute


Super low TDP of just 200W though, can run 3 with the same power of a single 5090.

Pro has ECC too, idk how often memory related crashes happen though but this is for enterprise use.

Memory bandwidth is 1792 GBs vs 896 GB/s
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Jul 10, 2026 4:35 PM
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StyopashkaJul 10, 2026 4:35 PM
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Quote from Elon69 :
Compared 5090 vs. 4500 ProThe NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 offers massive core-count superiority, featuring 21,760 CUDA cores compared to the 10,496 CUDA cores found on the ⁠NVIDIA RTX Pro 4500 Blackwell. This represents a 107% advantage in raw parallel processing hardware for the RTX 5090, putting it in an entirely different tier for raw computeSuper low TDP of just 200W though, can run 3 with the same power of a single 5090.Pro has ECC too, idk how often memory related crashes happen though but this is for enterprise use.Memory bandwidth is 1792 GBs vs 896 GB/s
I think you get the pro series because you need the pro series drivers. Those cards are expensive compared to consumer 50 series cards, but if you need the pro series functionality then you know. Otherwise, you don't get these, and there is really no point comparing the two.
Jul 10, 2026 4:46 PM
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Elon69Jul 10, 2026 4:46 PM
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Quote from Styopashka :
I think you get the pro series because you need the pro series drivers. Those cards are expensive compared to consumer 50 series cards, but if you need the pro series functionality then you know. Otherwise, you don't get these, and there is really no point comparing the two.
Well, agree that someone gets Pro because they need the Pro.

But I can also make the argument that if someone needs a Pro card, they're already getting it paid for somewhere already and not waiting for a deal in SD. Smilie.


But for Local AI crowd, they are comparing many diff cards to what suits them best. There are people getting 2 3060 TI cards 12GB x 2 to get to 24GB. or old Tesla V100 hacks to get the 32GB. VRAM. All interesting and I think people could consider them as they find what works. This would be good for someone who does need 32GB on a single card but can't stand the 5090 power draw and noise. or want to pack 64GB in a single PC without crazy power draw and did not need 96GB.


I considered RT6000 Pro but then it's actually slower than 5090 for what I use it for so it was pointless since I only do inference anyway but I did a research it.


I saw it and wanted to see what this Pro 4500 can do to see if I should use it but realized it's not for me and pasted what I learned.
Jul 10, 2026 5:15 PM
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dvdrsmthJul 10, 2026 5:15 PM
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Great, but can it play Crysis at 4k 60fps?? ;-)
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Jul 10, 2026 10:37 PM
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tripknotixJul 10, 2026 10:37 PM
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So you guys know. The bandwidth is key for llm. Especially if you're pairing 2 of them. As that takes a percentage hit on bandwidth. These cards aren't for us gamers. .. atleast... not yet...
Jul 11, 2026 3:20 AM
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FaithfulLlama731Jul 11, 2026 3:20 AM
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Quote from dvdrsmth :
Great, but can it play Crysis at 4k 60fps?? ;-)
Haven't seen this copypasta in a while. LOL

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Jul 12, 2026 12:22 AM
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ai42Jul 12, 2026 12:22 AM
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RTX Pro pricing has been steadily increasing this year. About 9 months ago you could have had this card for $2000. However, Dell currently is selling their RTX Pro 4500 32G Blackwell card for $2999. And you can use coupons/cashback etc there.

RTX Pro cards are warrantied through the seller so in the case of Dell you have a Dell warranty.
Jul 12, 2026 2:54 AM
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ThunderRyderJul 12, 2026 2:54 AM
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In practice 5090 is the way to go in terms of raw power and bang for the buck for LLM inference.

If money is not a concern, this card's advantages over 5090 for LLM inference is 1) nvlink capable so you can pair these up for tensor parallelism and pooled memory, the combined memory lets you run unquantized model for much higher quality LLM output and bigger context window. 2) lower power draw and physical profile.

(Edit: Actually there's no nvlink support for this card... that's made it worse. I thought this card is similar to my RTX A4500 pair which is nvlink bridged)

But if money is not a concern you should be looking at the RTX 6000 pro with 96gb VRAM - a single card solution
Last edited by ThunderRyder July 11, 2026 at 07:59 PM.
Jul 15, 2026 6:41 PM
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CodeChimpJul 15, 2026 6:41 PM
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Quote from Elon69 :
There are people getting 2 3060 TI cards 12GB x 2 to get to 24GB.
I didn't think the memory could stack this way? Honest question as I am new to the hardware side of this. Been looking at getting some hardware to do some local training but thought in order to get what I want/need I'd have to spring from a card with 32gb, or go with one of those "AI desktop" deals with unified memory.
Jul 15, 2026 7:42 PM
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Elon69Jul 15, 2026 7:42 PM
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Quote from CodeChimp :
I didn't think the memory could stack this way? Honest question as I am new to the hardware side of this. Been looking at getting some hardware to do some local training but thought in order to get what I want/need I'd have to spring from a card with 32gb, or go with one of those "AI desktop" deals with unified memory.

It does work and models will be loaded across the cards. Not as efficient as a single card with the larger VRAM but LLM inference engines like LM studio will split the requests across by default and you'll get better performance but not double performance.


AI Desktop Unified memory = useless for my use case. I got the equivalent M5 Max 128GB and I find a Mac more useful since it is my daily driver, larger models not that useful since the best open source ones are now 27B or so. If you really going to TRAIN then it may be DGX Spark but maybe you meant "using models" and not training models. but idk.

I don't think you'll run GLM 5.2 local, that you need about 300GB of RAM and a lot more $ and I personally think it's silly when online sub is super cheap and 99.99% has no need to run it locally other than thinking they have super secure stuff...


I ran 5080 16GB and 5070 TI 16GB. on the same computer (sold one oh well), and it definitely works this way

You can even mix 5080 16GB with 2070 8GB, I don't recall how it decides where it goes since it's asymmetrical but there are some settings.


Lots if youtube on this, One guy was running 4x3090 (96GB) vs. 1 DGX 128GB etc. lots of options for "cheaper hardware" for local AI


32GB VRAM with 2 5080/5070 is just $2000. vs $4000 with a single 5090 but it's a lot slower.

If you use 5060 TI 16GB then it's just $1200 to run 32GB VRAM and it runs inside of a SINGLE computer assuming you got 1200w PSU.

1000w will cut it too close, my testing ran up to 997w, good thing I had a 1200w in it at the time.
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Jul 15, 2026 8:22 PM
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XDeckerJul 15, 2026 8:22 PM
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Quote from Elon69 :


It does work and models will be loaded across the cards. Not as efficient as a single card with the larger VRAM but LLM inference engines like LM studio will split the requests across by default and you'll get better performance but not double performance.


AI Desktop Unified memory = useless for my use case. I got the equivalent M5 Max 128GB and I find a Mac more useful since it is my daily driver, larger models not that useful since the best open source ones are now 27B or so. If you really going to TRAIN then it may be DGX Spark but maybe you meant "using models" and not training models. but idk.

I don't think you'll run GLM 5.2 local, that you need about 300GB of RAM and a lot more $ and I personally think it's silly when online sub is super cheap and 99.99% has no need to run it locally other than thinking they have super secure stuff...


I ran 5080 16GB and 5070 TI 16GB. on the same computer (sold one oh well), and it definitely works this way

You can even mix 5080 16GB with 2070 8GB, I don't recall how it decides where it goes since it's asymmetrical but there are some settings.


Lots if youtube on this, One guy was running 4x3090 (96GB) vs. 1 DGX 128GB etc. lots of options for "cheaper hardware" for local AI


32GB VRAM with 2 5080/5070 is just $2000. vs $4000 with a single 5090 but it's a lot slower.

If you use 5060 TI 16GB then it's just $1200 to run 32GB VRAM and it runs inside of a SINGLE computer assuming you got 1200w PSU.

1000w will cut it too close, my testing ran up to 997w, good thing I had a 1200w in it at the time.
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I am currently running 2x 5060ti 16Gb + an oculinked 3070 on an external power supply.

My internal psu is 750w. The 5060ti has a Tdp of 180w. How the heck were you pushing 1000w ?
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Elon69Jul 15, 2026 10:09 PM
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Quote from xdecker :
?i am currently running 2x 5060ti 16gb + an oculinked 3070 on an external power supply.my internal psu is 750w. the 5060ti has a tdp of 180w. how the heck were you pushing 1000w ?
5080 + 5070 ti 16gb


If you read up where I actually wrote the config that I had running until I sold the 5080

5060 TI 16Gb was too slow so I got rid of the single 16GB I was just saying the cost to get 32GB is cheapest with that pairing at $1200


I don't like almost half the speed it was providing due to gimped memory bandwidth.


But I see where you could have thought I ran 997w with the 2 5060 TI's.

I did run 5080 and 5060 TI 16GB and 1000w was ok. I don't remember the peak because peak number got erased when I ran it with 5080/5070
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Jul 17, 2026 6:35 PM
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CodeChimpJul 17, 2026 6:35 PM
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Quote from Elon69 :
If you really going to TRAIN then it may be DGX Spark but maybe you meant "using models" and not training models. but idk.
Yes, I am working on a personal project that is currently using some off-the-shelf OSS models, and part of the project needs a training loop to increase model performance over time. The models I am using aren't too crazy, some smaller LLMs for text processing and a tablular type model for prediction using raw, mostly number-based data. Most of this is running on my home lab, which is a k8s running on 1 Mac Mini i5, 3 Lenovo i5 desktops and 2 NUC Haydes Canyons (i7 I think) I recently added for capacity. All running Ubuntu. But, hardware wise I have no GPU acceleration capability, so it's all just raw CPU at the moment. I was hoping the AMD Vegas on the NUCs would be able to run ROCm, but alas they are too old and no longer supported. I was thinking of setting up one new box to handle the training pieces that I could maybe stack with some nicer cards, and maybe drop a few smaller/cheaper cards into the Lenovos to run the models. As with most home labs I am hindered by physical available space and costs.

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