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Energy Speakers: Onyko TX-RZ70 Receiver + 2x RC-70 Floors + RC-LCR Center + RC-10 Bookshelf $2099 + Free S/H
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This bundle centers on strong RC-70 floor speakers paired with an Onkyo RZ70 that brings Dirac Live and plenty of channel support for a serious home theater. The speakers are described as a clear step up from RC-10s and capable of impressive sound, especially when crossed over to a sub and set to small. The RZ70 is also viewed as the safer receiver choice for demanding setups and higher listening levels. The main caveat is value, since the package looks overpriced if you do not need 11 channels, and the RC-70 upgrade matters less for moderate music or movie listening.
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Set the RC-70s to small and use a 60-80 Hz crossover for home theater. That offloads deep bass to the sub, reduces distortion and power demand, and usually improves clarity and headroom.
If you do not need 11 channels, the bundle is poor value because most of the price is tied up in the AVR. The speakers-only package at $799 is the better buy, and a TX-RZ30 has been available around $700 with most of the same features.
For movies and moderate-volume music, the RC-70s are not a dramatic audible upgrade over RC-10s when a good sub like an SVS PB12 is already in the system. The center channel carries most movie dialogue, so that upgrade is usually more audible than swapping the front towers.
They can work in direct 2.0 listening for music if you do not play very loud and the speakers reach low enough for your taste. The RC-70s still roll off in the low bass, so adding a sub and crossing over around 70-80 Hz is the cleaner long-term setup.
Yes, the TX-NR747 should easily drive these speakers for normal use. If you already have a decent subwoofer and do not need new AVR features, the older receiver is enough.
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I am currently running my rc-70's as large in a 2.0 configuration on my rz30 and I can't WAIT to get a sub. the low frequency rolloff on these speakers is pretty real - they're also ported so they tend to be a bit more boomy at the bottom... they CAN hit about 35hz, but the bottom tends to lack detail and I can hear it strain... I'm absolutely certain that adding a sub and crossing over at 70 or 80 is totally the move here and i'm working on making that happen. it's NOT just about the input power pushing to make those low notes, it's about the speakers design spec and driver behavior. if you have to push your drivers to do what you want in a particular frequency range, you're doing it wrong and you usually end up with distortion or boominess.
my current issue with a subwoofer is that my living room is part of an open floor plan with my kitchen, a stairway down to my basement (all open), and a short hallway upstairs so there's no way to pressurize it which means i'll need something really big if I want reference levels of bass in my room. thinking about maybe doing an 18" martysub but i'm still researching.
However, depending on your bass experience and expectations, a single 15" ported sub like a Hsu TN-1 or VTF-3 might already be enough, especially if corner loading works in your space. That would likely be the easiest most direct route. Or a pair of robust 12" ported subs, e.g. RSL 12s or Hsu VTF-2.
Tough question since there are so many options and factors to consider.
Upon saying that since you're new.
A very safe and budget friendly options.
I would suggest looking into are RSL & Starke, in that order.
Safest bet would probably be RSL's 10s MKii.
Its size makes it more versatile for optimal placement with good performance.
For a large environment, their 12s might be worth the extra $300.
They have good CS & return policy just in case you're not happy(very unlikely).
There are many other overall better options but would be more for people after specific performance, preference & expectations. That does come at a price though.
I doubt I'll need anything more than a 7.2. What would you go with around a $700-800 price point?
Just looking in here you see how many people still recommend 5 year options like Onkyo's 7100, RZ50!
All you need is finding one with features you need.
A main reason those 5 year old units are still recommended is Dirac room correction.
A plus for Denon units is you get the game changing option for their room correction(Audyssey) called A1EVO.
It basically gives you the performance of the Dirac that's included in those two units for free!
There are many iterations, the easiest would be Express version.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5cH_T
I doubt I'll need anything more than a 7.2. What would you go with around a $700-800 price point?
However, depending on your bass experience and expectations, a single 15" ported sub like a Hsu TN-1 or VTF-3 might already be enough, especially if corner loading works in your space. That would likely be the easiest most direct route. Or a pair of robust 12" ported subs, e.g. RSL 12s or Hsu VTF-2.
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