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(pair) Magnat Cinema Ultra Surround Sound Speakers $150 + Free S/H

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Sep 9, 2026 8:26 PM
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MemorableRoad213Sep 9, 2026 8:26 PM
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anyone know how well these function as height speakers?
Sep 9, 2026 8:32 PM
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LavenderMeal513Sep 9, 2026 8:32 PM
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Quote from MemorableRoad213 View quoted comment :
anyone know how well these function as height speakers?
if you mount them as heights/tops, they work fine (don't try to bounce sound off of ceiling). They do need to be crossed over at 100-120hz though.

Best thing is the rare for speakers vesa mount. I have them on monitor wall mounts.

I wish the fitting "bookshelves" (cinema ultra 100) came back in stock and went on a sale like that.
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Quote from LavenderMeal513 View quoted comment :
if you mount them as heights/tops, they work fine (don't try to bounce sound off of ceiling). They do need to be crossed over at 100-120hz though.

Best thing is the rare for speakers vesa mount. I have them on monitor wall mounts.

I wish the fitting "bookshelves" (cinema ultra 100) came back in stock and went on a sale like that.
Everything you wrote makes no sense at all
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Sep 11, 2026 7:16 AM
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Ryancbarrett96Sep 11, 2026 7:16 AM
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Quote from LavenderMeal513 View quoted comment :
if you mount them as heights/tops, they work fine (don't try to bounce sound off of ceiling). They do need to be crossed over at 100-120hz though.Best thing is the rare for speakers vesa mount. I have them on monitor wall mounts.I wish the fitting "bookshelves" (cinema ultra 100) came back in stock and went on a sale like that.
They look like they're designed to do exactly that though. Like they should go on top of your L and R speakers. I could use them to replace my R and L rear surrounds i guys. But I'm trying to go all Klipch RP since I already have my center and L/R fronts with them. Have had a hard time finding surrounds I like as all I see are those weird angles two way speakers.
Sep 13, 2026 1:40 PM
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LavenderMeal513Sep 13, 2026 1:40 PM
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Quote from Ryancbarrett96 View quoted comment :
They look like they're designed to do exactly that though. Like they should go on top of your L and R speakers. I could use them to replace my R and L rear surrounds i guys. But I'm trying to go all Klipch RP since I already have my center and L/R fronts with them. Have had a hard time finding surrounds I like as all I see are those weird angles two way speakers.
I have 4 of them as heights and 4 of the bookshelves/mains (now in rear and side location).

Yes, they fit on top of the mains perfectly. But it's not a great experience sound or atmos wise. You lose too much by bouncing sound and it only kind of okish works when speaker position, room height, ceiling material, and seat position align near perfectly. It just doesn't feel like sound coming from above as much as using them in height/top config by mounting them high and pointing at your seating.
Sep 13, 2026 2:02 PM
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LavenderMeal513Sep 13, 2026 2:02 PM
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Everything you wrote makes no sense at all
Happy to expand on my experience with these more.

VESA mount: they have 4 screws in the back that let you mount these like a TV or computer monitor. That makes them very flexible as onwall and on-ceiling speakers.

Crossover: this is a closed/air suspension design. The woofer is too small to generate much sound below 100hz. The claimed "45 - 37000 Hz" in the spec is not close to what I have measured or what is reasonable to expect from a closed design with a single, medium size woofer. So a subwoofer will have to help them out. It's best to cross over a bit above the roll off frequency since the crossover is not a cliff - they still have to play below the crossover point a bit. 120hz is about the highest crossover point you want to use for Atmos as it becomes noticeable that the low end sound isn't coming from the right spot above that. 80hz would be better - but not with these speakers. That's the only major draw back of these I noticed.

Bounce vs direct: they have a switch to alter the frequency response a bit to compensate for ceiling bounce loss, but it's still a much inferior experience running them in this mode. It works slightly better if you use them with concrete ceilings, but still, direct is much better sound clarity and sound directionality wise. Believe me, I have tried avoiding running cables up the walls. It would have been a lot easier to just put them on the fronts and bounce.

Cinema ultra 100: the main speakers from this series are outstanding. I have 4 and at a good price like this 70% off deal, I would buy between 3 and 7 more. They haven't been available from adorama even at full price for close to a year or so.
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Sep 13, 2026 2:10 PM
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Ryancbarrett96Sep 13, 2026 2:10 PM
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Quote from LavenderMeal513 View quoted comment :
I have 4 of them as heights and 4 of the bookshelves/mains (now in rear and side location). Yes, they fit on top of the mains perfectly. But it's not a great experience sound or atmos wise. You lose too much by bouncing sound and it only kind of okish works when speaker position, room height, ceiling material, and seat position align near perfectly. It just doesn't feel like sound coming from above as much as using them in height/top config by mounting them high and pointing at your seating.
I'm probably going to have to find speakers that bounce sound i live in s condo in the first floor and drilling into the ceiling just isn't an option. I also have no desire to just use a staple gun and isn't called ruining along the ceiling and walls. Especially in a place I don't plan on living in for a long time.

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Sep 13, 2026 2:31 PM
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I'm probably going to have to find speakers that bounce sound i live in s condo in the first floor and drilling into the ceiling just isn't an option. I also have no desire to just use a staple gun and isn't called ruining along the ceiling and walls. Especially in a place I don't plan on living in for a long time.
They are a solid choice at this price point. Just temper your "feels like it's raining shells on beaches of Normandy" expectations a little if bouncing is what you have to go with. And do the math on positioning. I think other brands use a slightly steeper tilt for their drivers, so these point up a little more and need to be a little closer to seating to have the bounced sound reach your ears from above.
Sep 13, 2026 2:36 PM
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Quote from LavenderMeal513 View quoted comment :
They are a solid choice at this price point. Just temper your "feels like it's raining shells on beaches of Normandy" expectations a little if bouncing is what you have to go with. And do the math on positioning. I think other brands use a slightly steeper tilt for their drivers, so these point up a little more and need to be a little closer to seating to have the bounced sound reach your ears from above.
I have the small Onkyo square add ons that had fit perfectly on my original fronts. They were angled just a bit, so I folded up a flap from a cardboard box I to a type of O that made it a little springy and put it underneath. Worked well, they just dont have the power you really need which is why ive been waiting for the Klipsch RP SA 500iis to go on sale once the 3rd gen comes out next month/black friday. If they go to $300, I'll definitely pick them up. Would these work for rear surrounds? I dont have a ton of space behind the couch so I moved it about a foot or so from the wall and have them on mounts that both tilt and swivel, mounted them above where you're head would be and aimed them down and to the center.
Sep 13, 2026 2:47 PM
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LavenderMeal513Sep 13, 2026 2:47 PM
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Quote from Ryancbarrett96 View quoted comment :
I have the small Onkyo square add ons that had fit perfectly on my original fronts. They were angled just a bit, so I folded up a flap from a cardboard box I to a type of O that made it a little springy and put it underneath. Worked well, they just dont have the power you really need which is why ive been waiting for the Klipsch RP SA 500iis to go on sale once the 3rd gen comes out next month/black friday. If they go to $300, I'll definitely pick them up. Would these work for rear surrounds? I dont have a ton of space behind the couch so I moved it about a foot or so from the wall and have them on mounts that both tilt and swivel, mounted them above where you're head would be and aimed them down and to the center.
They can work as surrounds/rears in tight spaces if you have a subwoofer to help them out. If they are close, they don't have to play as loud either (the main speakers from this series I use for that are louder per watt and can take a lot more watts).
Sep 13, 2026 2:53 PM
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Ryancbarrett96Sep 13, 2026 2:53 PM
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Quote from LavenderMeal513 View quoted comment :
They can work as surrounds/rears in tight spaces if you have a subwoofer to help them out. If they are close, they don't have to play as loud either (the main speakers from this series I use for that are louder per watt and can take a lot more watts).
As of now, here is my current dimensions/setup:

12x10 room that is open on the left (dining/living room that pretty common in condos)

Couch is 10 ft from the fronts which are on stands directly to the left and right of the front of the TV and the atmos add ons on top

10" onkyo sub (old one from a HTIAB) behind the left speaker

L/R surrounds slightly behind couch on speaker stands

Rear L/R surrounds mounted to rear wall as described earlier.
Sep 13, 2026 3:07 PM
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LavenderMeal513Sep 13, 2026 3:07 PM
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Quote from Ryancbarrett96 View quoted comment :
Rear L/R surrounds mounted to rear wall as described earlier.
If you are currently using e.g. SKR-398 speakers from the Onkyo HT-S 3910 HTiaB, then these magnats will be a good upgrade. The cone area, while not huge, is nearly 3 times larger and doesn't have to double as a tweeter. The Magnats also have a real good build quality.
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Quote from amax View quoted comment :
Everything you wrote makes no sense at all
Trying to BOUNCE sound off your ceiling and pretending that's going to give you a convincing "Atmos" experience is delusional.

Height speakers are preferable. In-ceiling or on-ceiling are ideal.

If you can't do any of those, don't bother with upfiring "Atmos enabled" junk. Useless.

That is all.
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Quote from Ryancbarrett96 View quoted comment :
I'm probably going to have to find speakers that bounce sound i live in s condo in the first floor and drilling into the ceiling just isn't an option. I also have no desire to just use a staple gun and isn't called ruining along the ceiling and walls. Especially in a place I don't plan on living in for a long time.
What speakers are you using for your bed layer? What sub? You'd be INFINITELY better off improving those than adding useless bounce speakers. Also keep in mind that 60-80% of the output actually comes from the CENTER speaker. So if you have some undersized weak center speaker and/or it's stuffed inside a cabinet pointing at your shin instead of your ears, THAT is the #1 massively audible area for improvement.

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Quote from Ryancbarrett96 View quoted comment :
As of now, here is my current dimensions/setup:

12x10 room that is open on the left (dining/living room that pretty common in condos)

Couch is 10 ft from the fronts which are on stands directly to the left and right of the front of the TV and the atmos add ons on top

10" onkyo sub (old one from a HTIAB) behind the left speaker

L/R surrounds slightly behind couch on speaker stands

Rear L/R surrounds mounted to rear wall as described earlier.
Open plan = you have to include all CONTIGUOUS cubic footage in your subwoofer needs calculation. That HTIB Onkyo sub is junk, and replacing it with at least something like a $340 RSL 10e would be far better than adding useless upfiring "bounce" speakers. Of course if you never watch action movies then keep the sub, just upgrade the center if you're using an HTIB center speaker.

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