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Not true. There have been videos showcasing even this base model as a gaming PC (ex: ETAPrime's on YouTube). Runs modern games at 1080p/60fps or 1440p with Metal upscaling. Kind of crazy how capable this thing is.
If you're near a Microcenter and don't mind open box, my local has a couple of those for $700. Good price and it's a brand new device so real unlikely to have wear and tear plus should still have Apple warranty
The Mac mini stands out as a compact desktop with strong Apple silicon performance, especially for everyday work, coding, and even some gaming. The 16GB memory and 256GB storage are often described as workable on macOS, with external drives and Thunderbolt docks making the small footprint easier to live with. The main drawback is the fixed RAM and storage, which rules out future upgrades and can feel limiting at this price. A capable small desktop if the base configuration fits your needs.
Users who keep files on external drives, because macOS can offload installs and a Thunderbolt dock can add NVMe storage under the machine.
Developers and video editors with moderate memory needs, because Apple silicon can feel snappier than a similarly specced PC in code compilation and HD editing.
People who want to install large games or keep huge local libraries, because 16GB and 256GB are not meant for 100GB installs and quickly push storage limits.
For typical everyday use, 16GB/256GB can be enough, and macOS can offload apps and data to an external drive with the right settings. It is a poor fit if you want to install large games or avoid external storage, because RAM and storage are not user-upgradeable.
No, the RAM and storage are fixed, so you cannot upgrade them later. If you need more memory or space down the road, the practical workaround is to buy a higher-spec model or use external storage from the start.
It can handle more than light web browsing, and videos have shown the base model running modern games at 1080p/60fps or 1440p with Metal upscaling. It is still best suited to lighter gaming or titles that run well on Apple silicon, especially with only 16GB RAM and 256GB storage.
A nearby Micro Center can have open-box Mac minis around $700, and one local 2024 M4 mini 16/256 was listed at $679 with plenty in stock. Recent Costco and open-box deals were also cited as low as $299-$399 for older 16GB M3/M4 minis, so this Amazon price is not the lowest option mentioned.
I realize that, but also realize the nvme does have a lifespan "terrabytes written" in today's age, 256GB, you'll go through the nvme so quickly. It's unacceptable for me to not be replaceable.
Because people are loyal cultists to some brands and any criticism shall be punished. I've owned Macs back to a 233mhz G3 and lots between then and now. I'm not sorry to call out that 256GB of fixed hard drive is NOT enough for a computer costing nearly $1000. It forces you to buy external storage to do much of anything which defeats the point of having a small form factor computer. There's no reason to not make the HD user upgradeable other than to artificially raise the price on models that provide more space. At bare minimum, add a space and slot for an NVME SSD or something internally. The RAM I can excuse given how Apple puts these together.. there are no user upgradeable 3rd party parts that work properly and even if they made it modular then that invites new bugs and security risks. That said, I still think they should be individually upgradeable/replaceable so that the spec could be improved down the road. These games are really only seen as reasonable by people who tend to upgrade every three years like clockwork.
I have 2TB externals that are smaller than a deck of cards. It doesn't kill a small form factor unless you choose to do so.
Apple lovers aren't nearly as bad as Apple haters! It is obvious who in these comments have never tried a Mac and just see 16/256 and nope out because they are stuck in a PC/Windows mindset and world.
I'm a PC person and a gamer, but I have a MBP through my job. 16/256 easily works. This isn't meant for someone wanting to install 100GB games. Is it dumb you can't upgrade the RAM & Storage? Yes! But should that be a deal breaker, I guess it's up to you.
What Windows option are you going with at this price point with the power and small form factor? Go ahead, I'll wait.
If ram and nvme were removable, I would buy in a heartbeat. Until then, I'll never own a Mac computer.Just knowing that I can buy a configuration and come to need more and I need to sell and rebuy the unit, hell no.
And you'll never understand why it works. Stuck in a Windows mindset
Only good for surfing internet and light duty tasks.
It has one of the highest scores in single thread speed, so as long as what you are doing doesn't require massive amounts of memory (16GB seems goes further on mac architecture) it would be perfect for many people. Not a bad device at all.
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It has one of the highest scores in single thread speed, so as long as what you are doing doesn't require massive amounts of memory (16GB seems goes further on mac architecture) it would be perfect for many people. Not a bad device at all.
I was a Mac to PC user around 2007. They lost their mojo going to Intel. PC were better at the time and viruses finally under control (one of the reasons I jumped to Mac around 1997). Jumped back to Macfew years ago and don't use a PC unless I have to. My only loyalty is to the best tool. Mac is it, for now
If ram and nvme were removable, I would buy in a heartbeat. Until then, I'll never own a Mac computer.Just knowing that I can buy a configuration and come to need more and I need to sell and rebuy the unit, hell no.
apple computers are designed with unified architecture which is why the storage isn't expandable. it's next generation compared to existing systems you can upgrade an expand. because computers get incrementally faster each year, to me trying to upgrade an old system is a lost cause anyway. just refresh the whole thing every several years instead. you get more bang for your buck. apple silicone systems have much higher available bandwidth between cpu and ram, and just runs a lot more efficiently and faster than any competitors. if you look into some lectures on computer architecture, you'll understand more about the topic (i didn't mention arm vs x86 because it's confusing for the overview, but it's semi relevant to this topic). the macs and macbooks are definitely good value if you ask me. hope that was a bit helpful
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The Mac mini stands out as a compact desktop with strong Apple silicon performance, especially for everyday work, coding, and even some gaming. The 16GB memory and 256GB storage are often described as workable on macOS, with external drives and Thunderbolt docks making the small footprint easier to live with. The main drawback is the fixed RAM and storage, which rules out future upgrades and can feel limiting at this price. A capable small desktop if the base configuration fits your needs.
The Mac mini can handle many workloads well thanks to strong single-thread performance.
The fixed 256GB storage can work if you plan to offload apps and data to an external drive.
The small form factor can stay practical when paired with external NVMe storage via a Thunderbolt dock.
Apple silicon efficiency can make the Mac mini feel snappier for tasks like video editing and code compiling.
The non-upgradeable RAM and NVMe storage can force a sell-and-rebuy cycle when specs need to change.
The 256GB fixed storage may be insufficient for a near-$1000 Mac mini without adding external storage.
The NVMe drive may wear out faster with a 256GB configuration due to terrabytes-written concerns.
Some buyers may find the 16GB/256GB configuration unsuitable for heavier use cases like installing large game libraries.
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Apple lovers aren't nearly as bad as Apple haters! It is obvious who in these comments have never tried a Mac and just see 16/256 and nope out because they are stuck in a PC/Windows mindset and world.
I'm a PC person and a gamer, but I have a MBP through my job. 16/256 easily works. This isn't meant for someone wanting to install 100GB games. Is it dumb you can't upgrade the RAM & Storage? Yes! But should that be a deal breaker, I guess it's up to you.
What Windows option are you going with at this price point with the power and small form factor? Go ahead, I'll wait.
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