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Ebay resellers - tell me your story...
April 21, 2016 at
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I've never really sold much on Ebay, more of a buyer, but the few things lately that I have sold were nowhere near worth the hassle. How do those of you that sell make sure it still makes you money? Apart from dumping stock found with price mistakes it seems that the steadily increasing Ebay fees, Paypal fees, and 'buyer-centric' policies have made Ebay selling a lot more difficult, less profitable, and more cutthroat. I'm just curious to hear from anyone who's actually making it work.
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Um, of course it is. I make income at my job and they report it on a W2 and I have to pay taxes on it. Why are people who make money on ebay different? Why should they make tax-free income?
I guess it depends on how you look at it.
If I buy a diamond ring new for $2000 and I pay tax on it in the store, then turn around and sell it a few years later for $800, why should I pay tax on the resale?
And if I bought that ring for $800 on CL from someone that bought it new for $2000, (and they already paid tax on it), and I turn around and sell it on Ebay for $500, again ... why should I pay tax on it???
The government already got their money once, why should we keep paying over and over and over.....?????
Kind of like death taxes. You pay taxes when you make it, spend it, invest it, or save it. Then they want even MORE taxes when you die? Fark them!!!!
I do NOT condone those who sit on their asses, rake in welfare, milk the system, come here illegally, work only under-the-table cash jobs, and never pay taxes. But I have no problem with those that make some money on the side through re-selling and don't pay taxes on that income. My dad is almost 70 years old and has worked his butt off since he was 16 years old and paid taxes his entire life. He retired 2 years ago, lives on SS and a pension. He makes anywhere from $300-$1500 a month selling on CL and doesn't report the income. Good for him!!!!
If I buy a diamond ring new for $2000 and I pay tax on it in the store, then turn around and sell it a few years later for $800, why should I pay tax on the resale?
And if I bought that ring for $800 on CL from someone that bought it new for $2000, (and they already paid tax on it), and I turn around and sell it on Ebay for $500, again ... why should I pay tax on it???
The government already got their money once, why should we keep paying over and over and over.....?????
Kind of like death taxes. You pay taxes when you make it, spend it, invest it, or save it. Then they want even MORE taxes when you die? Fark them!!!!
I do NOT condone those who sit on their asses, rake in welfare, milk the system, come here illegally, work only under-the-table cash jobs, and never pay taxes. But I have no problem with those that make some money on the side through re-selling and don't pay taxes on that income. My dad is almost 70 years old and has worked his butt off since he was 16 years old and paid taxes his entire life. He retired 2 years ago, lives on SS and a pension. He makes anywhere from $300-$1500 a month selling on CL and doesn't report the income. Good for him!!!!
Whomever said money is only taxed once? You pretty much made that up. Money is taxed when it changes hands. If you make money at your job and pay taxes on it, does that mean that paying your maid with that money means she doesn't have to pay taxes? Most PEOPLE don't get taxed twice on the same dollar, but the dollar is taxed everytime it changes hands. So YOU don't have to pay taxes when you sell a ring that you already paid taxes on, but the buyer sure does. If you ran a store instead of selling on ebay or CL, you'd have to collect and remit those sales taxes.
Whomever said money is only taxed once? You pretty much made that up. Money is taxed when it changes hands. If you make money at your job and pay taxes on it, does that mean that paying your maid with that money means she doesn't have to pay taxes? Most PEOPLE don't get taxed twice on the same dollar, but the dollar is taxed everytime it changes hands. So YOU don't have to pay taxes when you sell a ring that you already paid taxes on, but the buyer sure does. If you ran a store instead of selling on ebay or CL, you'd have to collect and remit those sales taxes.
I'm specifically talking about reselling previously owned items. My aforementioned comments were made simply to establish my feelings that the government gets enough of our money and I don't think they deserve a dime on tangible resales. Not even homes.
I'm specifically talking about reselling previously owned items. My aforementioned comments were made simply to establish my feelings that the government gets enough of our money and I don't think they deserve a dime on tangible resales. Not even homes.
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Kind of like death taxes. You pay taxes when you make it, spend it, invest it, or save it. Then they want even MORE taxes when you die? Fark them!!!!
(death tax should be higher and it only effects high value estates)
Are you saying the death tax itself should be higher or the value of the estate being taxed should be higher?
In 1998 my husband's grandmother passed away. Her estate was valued at about $700,000. The state of Florida took roughly 50%. She lived in the same house for more than 75 years and always paid her property taxes. She worked more than 50 years of her life and always paid her taxes. She died and they took 50%. Why? Because they could, that's why. It certainly wasn't because they deserved one more dime.
I realize estate taxes have changed over the years and only the really large estates are taxed now (and at a lesser percent), but I still don't understand where the government gets off thinking they are "entitled" to anything after you die.
Years ago my husband and I read a book by Stephen Pollan called "Die Broke". That's our plan.
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Are you saying the death tax itself should be higher or the value of the estate being taxed should be higher?
In 1998 my husband's grandmother passed away. Her estate was valued at about $700,000. The state of Florida took roughly 50%. She lived in the same house for more than 75 years and always paid her property taxes. She worked more than 50 years of her life and always paid her taxes. She died and they took 50%. Why? Because they could, that's why. It certainly wasn't because they deserved one more dime.
I realize estate taxes have changed over the years and only the really large estates are taxed now (and at a lesser percent), but I still don't understand where the government gets off thinking they are "entitled" to anything after you die.
Years ago my husband and I read a book by Stephen Pollan called "Die Broke". That's our plan.
Now, that isn't to say that I agree that families should lose HALF of a $700k estate (this sounds fishy anyway, there must be more to that situation*), or that I'm happy to see people lose a family home because they can't pay an estate tax. Certainly I think there should be a threshold at which estates begin getting taxed. But I also don't want to see Donald Trump's kids inherit $4B tax free. That doesn't strike me as fair either.
BTW: I don't doubt that you're telling the truth about FL, though my guess is there's some nuance as to why it was that high in this individual case. Keep this in mind, though, when people tout FL as being awesome because of no state income tax. Revenue has to come from somewhere. Florida isn't magically able to pay it's bills better than all the other states without getting tax revenue, they're simply charging it in different places.
BTW: I don't doubt that you're telling the truth about FL, though my guess is there's some nuance as to why it was that high in this individual case. Keep this in mind, though, when people tout FL as being awesome because of no state income tax. Revenue has to come from somewhere. Florida isn't magically able to pay it's bills better than all the other states without getting tax revenue, they're simply charging it in different places.
We kept questioning the tax bill and in the end, his dad said it was the result of poor estate planning. Okay, maybe some of that factored into it but the bottom line is that the state of FL (in my opinion) should not have gotten a dime.
Years ago my husband and I read a book by Stephen Pollan called "Die Broke". That's our plan.
We kept questioning the tax bill and in the end, his dad said it was the result of poor estate planning. Okay, maybe some of that factored into it but the bottom line is that the state of FL (in my opinion) should not have gotten a dime.
Something smells wrong there.
1998 federal death tax exemption was $625k. (http://wills.about.com/od/underst...xchar
And in Florida the limit for the state death tax was an amount equal to the federal State Death Tax Credit (this is part of the Florida constitution and is why they currently have no death, estate or inheritance tax) . In 2001 the rate was 18,000 plus 4.8% of the excess of 675k.
Explanation of the Florida estate tax situation http://www.floridabar.
And a table for the 2001 State Death Tax Credit http://kb.pgcalc.com/tables/state...edit-table
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In my case, I sold a like-new smart phone, and the buyer couldn't figure out how to install a google keyboard on it and declare defect on the item.
I had no options, but to refund in full and pay for the return shipping.
I then called in and asked about seller protection, all the answers I got was something like there is no seller protection in this case. Their reps look into the messages bethween seller and buyer, but that did not do anything. eBay will just listen to the buyer. Never again...eBay.