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Which one is better for Synology DiskStation DS920+ 4-Bay NAS
Seagate 16TB IronWolf Pro 7200 rpm SATA
Or
WD 14TB Red Pro 7200 rpm SATA III 3.5" Internal NAS HDD
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Newegg has Synology 5 Bay NAS DiskStation DS1019+ (Diskless) bundled with 2-Pack WD Red NAS 3.5" Internal HDD on sale:
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I use more 8TB or 10 TB drives....
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About these wd drives for nas!! They are smr drives which aren't ideal for servers
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The big difference is preference and the Rotational Speeds
5400 rpm - WD RED
7200 rpm - Segate IW
So I would match the brands so the speeds are different,
I have 4 8tb Reds in my...
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There's multiple reports on /r/DataHoarder about sellers advertising these drives as CMR, packaging indicating the drive has a CMR model #, only to open it up and find an SMR drive.
That said,...
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Are you sure on that? AFAIK the 8+ TB Reds are the only ones guaranteed to be CMR. The smaller Reds were supposed to be CMR as well but they recently admitted that some smaller drives use SMR.
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bought some WD easystore with 8tb white drives last year, are these CMR or SMR?
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WD is now adding the naming scheme Plus to denote non-smr drives. So it'll be 4gb Red Plus will be a non-smr drive while the 4gb Red will be smr.
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How's this unit for a Plex server?
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These are the CMR drives, not the cheaper, slower SMR drives WD is in hot water over for not disclosing.
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How are the WD reds compared to seagate iron wolf? Do the drives need to be the same brands?
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I would stay away from 4TB Reds before they officially launch the "Red Plus" range which will be CMR for sure. Although it is the SMR range that should be called Red "minus", and Red stay what it...
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I have every brand of Nas harddrives in my server. The we red is first/only one to start failing.
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Cmr
wd10jfcx (1tb)
wd10efrx (1tb)
wd20efrx (2tb)
wd30efrx (3tb)
wd40efrx (4tb)
wd60efrx (6tb)
wd80efax (8tb)
wd100efax (10tb)
wd101efax (10tb)
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Any other apps or features you want to use?
If just a backup of opt for not a plus. Just regular or j series. Not sure of current prices.
The plus you generally pay for better CPU, RAM,...
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CMR is literally in the title on the product page of the 4 TB drive
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The DS1019+ is $570 on B&H, not $550. That brings the drives down to $190 each for 8 TB.
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ZFS anything as well; also I'm 98% sure Synology specifically has stated SMR isn't compatible with their OS.
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At this point I would stay away from WD Red drives until this is all figured out. If you are buying drives for a NAS you should make sure they work properly with them. Otherwise what is the point of...
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8x 10tb and 5x 8tb
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Can elaborate on what is the CMR and it’s advantage over the SMR.
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How does the ds920+ compares to the ds1019+?
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Seagate and Toshiba also have been doing it, just not necessarily in NAS branded drives.
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So why get this over say a old sell server and buy the drives. Would be cheaper, allows for more disks and higher end hardware. Only thing I can come up with is perhaps power efficiency and...
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Here is a video where Linus talked about the problems with them in NAS devices:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aztTf2gI55k
Basically SMR drives do not play well with RAID when it comes to...
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Not bad, but not much of a combo deal.
DS1019+ price drop is now $570 (B&H), so about $190 per 8TB drive, and you have to buy others at full $212 price. The sweet spot for these 8TB are under...
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Thanks for the detail information.
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Hey guys. I am looking for 4+ disk-space NAS. Wonder if I should get this or the DS420+? Any suggestions? I won’t be running Plex 4K, it is just a data backup for me.
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because people don't lie when they make a sales post on newegg
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Eww these are terrible prices for what u get.
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*file system, but yeah I hear you.
SMR is genius, but from my layman's understanding, the "layering" that boosts density, great stuff.
The issue is that it happens inside the drive, in ways...
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The 6TB is the largest drive with SMR so if you stick to 8TB and above, you are safe.
I would be with you on Seagate, if they were to offer a 5400 rpm "quiet" version. Mutliplater 10+TB drives @...