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God or Fear, but not necessarily fear of god.
Fear of getting caught, fear of going to jail, fear of killing someone else (people do care), fear of etc.
A better person by societies...
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Technically isn't religion a blind faith as well?
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Odds are you'd get caught.
Why do you have to 'wreak all kinds of havoc' to enjoy life?
I find your viewpoint scary.
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How so? I'd call my religion a faith based on reason and history.
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I don't mean to pick on ya Mav, but this is an excellent example. How many other people out there want to believe, but just can't?
This is why I don't buy the "believers are just delusional"...
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history of the church and how that plays a role in it.
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It's your use of the words 'theory' and 'notion' which basically mean the same thing in the end that I was questioning, so you believe in the notion of evolution, yes?
Science can't disprove God...
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Well then, I guess you aren't as interested in the truth as I thought. :)
I mean, since all that needs to be said about scientific proof for either side has been said, right?
When someone...
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That's one thought, I suppose. It was sure an elaborate plan that a lot of people were in on, though.
We are fairly certain that Jesus was a real person, so that wasn't made up. Most scholars do...
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How did we disagree?
http://net.bible.org/verse.php?book=Mat&chapter=26&verse=64
Son of Man is a Messianic title since he was born of a human, but it doesn't delineate from him having the...
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from 12 to 18
so, pics when you were 18 please
thanx:)
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Good point. The apostles also all died horrible, painful deaths at the hands of those wanting them to recind their belief. Why would they choose to die that way rather than say 'okay, I was lying'...
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Things like tornadoes and hurricanes couldn't be explained by science thousands of years ago, so what happened? They were explained by "God". But now we can explain things like tornadoes and...
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not angry at all...I know you are not all like that. My gf isn't like that.
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Could you please provide some evidence supporting this.
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^^This makes a lot of sense to me... :)
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:iagree: I think the 3 of us were trying to say the same thing, but in different words.
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To you and Imerson (hi Imerson, long time no see.. at least, that I'm aware of!) ;)
Let's look at the times of Noah. People were doing what they wanted, when they wanted, falling off the...
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i don't think in this thread you've found one person who's said god doesn't exist. we've said we can't know either way, but we don't put much into doing things just cause we don't have a better...
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I am dead serious. The human brain is a very powerful thing, and we don't utilize all of it. How do you know we can't do telekinesis (for example)? same thing applies to what I said (there's some...
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:lmao: I don't know if you're making fun of me or not, but that post made me LOL.
And covertcelery, how can you believe in god but not believe in telepathy? Telepathy is more believable to me,...
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You owe me 5 dollars!
And I'm impressed with the level of maturity that all of you had in this conversation.
:thumbup:
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What do you want him to do, BrownEyedGirl? How do you expect him to reveal himself? I am curious.
Do you want the white lightening visual experience? I don't know why he doesn't give that...
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Asking god to reveal himself is probably like asking to become a mod...
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I don't think he always is there saving people. In the grand scheme of the universe our lifetime is not long. He allows bad things to happen and the surgeon had the free will to intervene or not. ...
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It was just an example. I meant that in our case, we wouldn't keep following someone who didn't want us around either.
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Well that throws one of my arguments out the window, and good.
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But in the past I have done those things. I have followed those steps.
I don't know what I want him to do; I guess maybe some tangible proof would be nice. I understand faith, but I don't...
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I wouldn't know if AH repented or not. I guess that's between him and God. I also am not the one to judge if it would have been enough if he did. The Bible would seem to imply that it would hav...
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Why else would god let them live 600+ years, and us only 100+? :lol: :dontknow:
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ok nearing 400 posts, who wants to sum up what parties on the oposite sides had agreed to so far?
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I think we all agree that the mods are doing a good job on letting us keep this in the lounge.
I think we all agree that everyone (from both sides) are acting civilized.
I think we all agree that I...
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I agree. When I hear someone say 'God saved me/him/her' from something I want to ask them why a loving God would put them in harms way in the first place? Say someone is in a severe car crash and...
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The bolded is biased based on religion.
Which goes back to my point of life being like a zebra -- it has it's white stripes and it's black stripes, and like a zebra it could be random. Maybe she...
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It's quite possible. The Bible does say that many are called but few are chosen.
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I agree. I always wonder why people give credit where they are not sure credit is due. Some people have a skill that others do not. How do we know it was God who went through each one of us and...
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Killerbootsman, all I can tell you is that everything on your list is twisted truth. Twisted truth is something that is scary, because it is truth that is manipulated.
Your first one~God won't...
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So are you saying your not gifted like the rest of us? :bigeye:
People ARE bad for the most part. God even said so. Man is inherently evil. However, do recall that Adam and Eve were as perfect...
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1. it appears you are suggesting that g_d thrives to bask in how people glorify and whorship him. It sounds to me like it is an extremely negative religion meant to get down about your ownself. ...
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