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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition Dual Fan 24GB GDDR6X GPU Card (Refurb) Expired

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Select Micro Center Stores have NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition Dual Fan 24GB GDDR6X PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card (Refurbished, 9001G1362510RF2) on sale for $699.99. Select free store pickup where available.
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  • DisplayPort 1.4a, HDMI 2.1

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Micro Center [microcenter.com] has NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Founders Edition Dual Fan 24GB GDDR6X PCIe 4.0 Video Graphics Card GPU (Refurbished) on sale for $699.99. Select free store pickup where available.
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If you have a 24GB card, just download koboldcpp which is a 250mb exec, and get a GGUF model off huggingface -- a 20B or 34B model is about 15GB, then run it. Total time, including installing card and drivers ~1hr.

Check out /r/localllama on reddit.
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This card is great if you want to play with local language models. Tired of GPT refusing to answer your questions about how to dispose of that dead body in your freezer? Run your own local model that has been 'un-aligned' and it will let you know exactly which brand of acid to get at the hardware store to remove that pesky problem. All you need a boatload of VRAM to run it.
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It's a great card. But for gamers, seems 4070 ti super with 3 years of warranty is a better choice.
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03-15-2024 at 09:24 AM.

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It's a great card. But for gamers, seems 4070 ti super with 3 years of warranty is a better choice.
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03-15-2024 at 09:34 AM.
03-15-2024 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from xlongx :
It's a great card. But for gamers, seems 4070 ti super with 3 years of warranty is a better choice.
I was definitely thinking the same thing for just $100 more the longevity should be worth it right? I'm not expert, but the big difference seems to be the vram? 24GB vs 16GB is there a big difference in consideration of that? Does it help things in particular?
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03-15-2024 at 09:40 AM.
03-15-2024 at 09:40 AM.
Quote from SehoneyDP :
I was definitely thinking the same thing for just $100 more the longevity should be worth it right? I'm not expert, but the big difference seems to be the vram? 24GB vs 16GB is there a big difference in consideration of that? Does it help things in particular?
Some newer games need the extra VRAM, but from what I remember it's mostly because they're so unoptimized. Like for The Last of Us Part 1 they eventually released a patch that lowered the VRAM requirement for the ultra textures.
Also, maybe for scientific stuff you'll want more VRAM, but I have no idea if you'll want more VRAM or compute power for stuff like that.
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03-15-2024 at 09:42 AM.
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the vram matters a lot when you start gaming at higher resolutions. 4k specifically
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03-15-2024 at 09:46 AM.
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Quote from Outrager :
Some newer games need the extra VRAM, but from what I remember it's mostly because they're so unoptimized. Like for The Last of Us Part 1 they eventually released a patch that lowered the VRAM requirement for the ultra textures.
Also, maybe for scientific stuff you'll want more VRAM, but I have no idea if you'll want more VRAM or compute power for stuff like that.
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the vram matters a lot when you start gaming at higher resolutions. 4k specifically
Ah that makes sense ty. I got a 1440p monitor for now, so probably don't really see a need. I do feel like I could use more for PCVR though. I'll have to look at which one is better for that. I can still wait until the 5000 series are out though tbh.
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temped to get a second 3090 for nvlink
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This card is great if you want to play with local language models. Tired of GPT refusing to answer your questions about how to dispose of that dead body in your freezer? Run your own local model that has been 'un-aligned' and it will let you know exactly which brand of acid to get at the hardware store to remove that pesky problem. All you need a boatload of VRAM to run it.
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03-15-2024 at 10:51 AM.
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This card is great if you want to play with local language models. Tired of GPT refusing to answer your questions about how to dispose of that dead body in your freezer? Run your own local model that has been 'un-aligned' and it will let you know exactly which brand of acid to get at the hardware store to remove that pesky problem. All you need a boatload of VRAM to run it.
What is the investment time + hardware to play around with your own GPT / LLM model?

I can play with GPT to see what it spits out - I am curious to hear from someone that has done it.
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What is the investment time + hardware to play around with your own GPT / LLM model?

I can play with GPT to see what it spits out - I am curious to hear from someone that has done it.
If you have a 24GB card, just download koboldcpp which is a 250mb exec, and get a GGUF model off huggingface -- a 20B or 34B model is about 15GB, then run it. Total time, including installing card and drivers ~1hr.

Check out /r/localllama on reddit.
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03-15-2024 at 11:29 AM.
03-15-2024 at 11:29 AM.
Quote from HappyAccident :
If you have a 24GB card, just download koboldcpp which is a 250mb exec, and get a GGUF model off huggingface -- a 20B or 34B model is about 15GB, then run it. Total time, including installing card and drivers ~1hr.

Check out /r/localllama on reddit.
Thank you. I will check out reddit and see if it makes sense to pick up this card. I do have a 3060 12GB coming this weekend and perhaps that could make due?

I am not sure if my Precision 7810 system (dual xeon v3 beasts) will handle the power requirements of the 3090 and the 4070 TI S might be worth looking at for as it is more in-line with the 2080S in there now.
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03-15-2024 at 11:44 AM.
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Quote from duijver :
What is the investment time + hardware to play around with your own GPT / LLM model?

I can play with GPT to see what it spits out - I am curious to hear from someone that has done it.
If you're on Windows you can get setup in minutes: https://lmstudio.ai/

Hardware minimums are pretty low to run a 7B parameter LLM, but can ramp up substantially if you want to run a 30 or 60B parameter LLM and get more than a couple of Tokens/s.
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03-15-2024 at 11:46 AM.
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I believe you need a power adapter in order to move to the required 12 pin? Anyway its not included in the box on the refurbished model
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03-15-2024 at 12:00 PM.
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The base 3090 has an issue with overheating vram modules on the backside. Be sure to have a fan pointing at the backplate to keep those modules cool
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