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Product Name: | Lenovo - Legion Slim 5 14.5" OLED Gaming Laptop - Ryzen 7 7840HS with 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 8GB with 1 TB SSD - Storm Grey |
Product SKU: | 6559123_6559123 |
UPC: | 197529770290 |
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Doesn't seem to be everyone's experience but it was mine. Gotta say, I didn't care for OLED either but my daily driver is an OLED so it's not like I'm new to a top notch panel.
You're not getting 9 hours on this thing and if someone is, well, they are probably using it for a few mins and then closing the lid for a few hours.
When using gaming laptop on battery for watching YouTube, for best battery life you should:
1. Enable adaptive refresh rate. This will automatically switch display to 60hz when you unplug charger.
2. Disable dedicated GPU. Gaming laptops come with 2 GPUs, iGPU and dGPU. dGPU consumes a lot of battery and generates heat. When using laptop on battery to just watch Youtube, you want dGPU to be off. No sense powering a 100watt dGPU when all you want is to watch YouTube.
3. Set your TDP limit to silent. Similar principle, you don't need a ton of wattage to push through your CPU to watch YouTube. Lowest TDP setting is more than enough, will sip battery, run cooler, and fans will be quieter.
TDP setting takes 2 second to set with Fn+Q shortcut I believe. It cycles though all the power modes. iGPU/dGPU and refresh rate option are done in Lenovo app. Gaming laptops of today require you to know what you're doing to either get the best life out of battery or get the best frame rate out of game when on power. If you don't have one of GPU setting right, your game fps can be suboptimal. Things like disabling iGPU when on power for example will gain you an additional 10% in frame rate in games because video signal only has to go through 1 GPU (dGPU ->Screen) instead of 2 (dGPU -> iGPU -> Screen).
When using gaming laptop on battery for watching YouTube, for best battery life you should:
1. Enable adaptive refresh rate. This will automatically switch display to 60hz when you unplug charger.
2. Disable dedicated GPU. Gaming laptops come with 2 GPUs, iGPU and dGPU. dGPU consumes a lot of battery and generates heat. When using laptop on battery to just watch Youtube, you want dGPU to be off. No sense powering a 100watt dGPU when all you want is to watch YouTube.
3. Set your TDP limit to silent. Similar principle, you don't need a ton of wattage to push through your CPU to watch YouTube. Lowest TDP setting is more than enough, will sip battery, run cooler, and fans will be quieter.
TDP setting takes 2 second to set with Fn+Q shortcut I believe. It cycles though all the power modes. iGPU/dGPU and refresh rate option are done in Lenovo app. Gaming laptops of today require you to know what you're doing to either get the best life out of battery or get the best frame rate out of game when on power. If you don't have one of GPU setting right, your game fps can be suboptimal. Things like disabling iGPU when on power for example will gain you an additional 10% in frame rate in games because video signal only has to go through 1 GPU (dGPU ->Screen) instead of 2 (dGPU -> iGPU -> Screen).
I love when people complain about using these laptop for simple things and complaining, might as well just get a chrome book
When using gaming laptop on battery for watching YouTube, for best battery life you should:
1. Enable adaptive refresh rate. This will automatically switch display to 60hz when you unplug charger.
2. Disable dedicated GPU. Gaming laptops come with 2 GPUs, iGPU and dGPU. dGPU consumes a lot of battery and generates heat. When using laptop on battery to just watch Youtube, you want dGPU to be off. No sense powering a 100watt dGPU when all you want is to watch YouTube.
3. Set your TDP limit to silent. Similar principle, you don't need a ton of wattage to push through your CPU to watch YouTube. Lowest TDP setting is more than enough, will sip battery, run cooler, and fans will be quieter.
TDP setting takes 2 second to set with Fn+Q shortcut I believe. It cycles though all the power modes. iGPU/dGPU and refresh rate option are done in Lenovo app. Gaming laptops of today require you to know what you're doing to either get the best life out of battery or get the best frame rate out of game when on power. If you don't have one of GPU setting right, your game fps can be suboptimal. Things like disabling iGPU when on power for example will gain you an additional 10% in frame rate in games because video signal only has to go through 1 GPU (dGPU ->Screen) instead of 2 (dGPU -> iGPU -> Screen).
Same applies to the TDP limit. It should be done intelligently and automatically instead of shifting the burden off to the user. I want a good battery life on a gaming laptop (unless I'm gaming off battery of course; that'd be impossible in terms of physics). I don't want to have to constantly dig through Lenovo/Asus/Acer/Dell's crappy app settings. I don't want to have that app open or even installed in the first place. At this point, the functionality should be in the kernel. This is obviously a UX issue and is easily fixable with better software design and development.
Same applies to the TDP limit. It should be done intelligently and automatically instead of shifting the burden off to the user. I want a good battery life on a gaming laptop (unless I'm gaming off battery of course; that'd be impossible in terms of physics). I don't want to have to constantly dig through Lenovo/Asus/Acer/Dell's crappy app settings. I don't want to have that app open or even installed in the first place. At this point, the functionality should be in the kernel. This is obviously a UX issue and is easily fixable with better software design and development.
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Same applies to the TDP limit. It should be done intelligently and automatically instead of shifting the burden off to the user. I want a good battery life on a gaming laptop (unless I'm gaming off battery of course; that'd be impossible in terms of physics). I don't want to have to constantly dig through Lenovo/Asus/Acer/Dell's crappy app settings. I don't want to have that app open or even installed in the first place. At this point, the functionality should be in the kernel. This is obviously a UX issue and is easily fixable with better software design and development.
I think all gaming laptops sold today come with Hybrid GPU mode enabled. It's up to windows to juggle GPUs in that mode. It works for users who don't know better. Trade off is you get crappier fps in games when plugged in, and crappier battery life when not. Because both GPUs are always on. It's a middle ground. Windows gets to decide what runs on what. A lot of times it's going to get things right, but sometimes it will mess up and will run a game on internal GPU. Then you see people posting on reddit how they're getting really crappy performance with certain games. Turns out they have to go into display settings and assign the game or a 3d app to dedicated GPU to help windows out. I wouldn't be surprised if windows ran YouTube off dedicated GPU on battery in that mode some of the time too. It's just not perfect, but it works most of the time. But even when it works, it's not ideal because it requires both GPUs to be on and it still hurts battery or performance. So yeah, they still need a lot of improvement there, on software and hardware side. These days, if you want the absolute best performance while plugged in, you have to set your gaming laptop in dGPU only mode (mux switch on). It requires a reboot. This will bypass iGPU and send frame info directly to screen and gain you about 10% fps improvement and gives no chance for windows to use wrong GPU. And when on battery and not gaming, you want to be in IGPU only mode.
But situation is slowly improving. 3 years ago for example, it was common to find a gaming laptop without a mux switch. In 2024, I'm not aware of any laptop not having it. On top of that, mux switch requires a reboot, but Nvidia worked with laptop manufactures and came up with advanced Optimus where you can enable dGPU only mode on the fly without requiring reboot. Leave your laptop in Hybrid mode in Lenovo app, open Nvidia control panel, 3d setting -> Manage Display Mode, and pick NVIDIA GPU only, click apply. System will freeze for about 6 seconds and then will come back to life. Clicking on Optimus and then apply will put it back in Hybrid mode and will freeze system for about 4 seconds as it reconfigures itself again. As far as I'm aware, AMD still requires a reboot and even with Nvidia GPU, not all laptop makers support it. Still not ideal, but no more reboots is a progress. At some point in future windows will probably be able to reconfigure these things on the fly with minimum system freeze when you start the game.
Lenovo as of 2023 is also including AI chip on their laptops that's supposed to help manage TDP settings automatically in some cases. At 2024 CES, laptop manufacturers couldn't shut up about AI in their laptops. I suspect most of It at this point is marketing fluff, but 5-10 years down the road, it will probably be a real thing. My guess is in 10 years we will get there. We will have hardware that's able to switch components on and off on the fly at blazing fast speeds and we will have AI chips on laptops to manage TDP/GPUs, and we will have Windows that's capable of making it all run flawlessly.
This is my first gaming laptop and I followed folks advice and did clean win11 install and installed helper instead of all Asus software. It is amazingly simple and effective.
Does Lenovo have a gHelper equivalent because that would prob satisfy a majority of folks needs without the bloat.
This is my first gaming laptop and I followed folks advice and did clean win11 install and installed helper instead of all Asus software. It is amazingly simple and effective.
Does Lenovo have a gHelper equivalent because that would prob satisfy a majority of folks needs without the bloat.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Zephyrus...out_
https://github.com/seerge/g-helper
However, is 16GB enough to last for say, 3-4 years??
It looks like it isn't expandable yikessss
"Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots"
source: https://psref.lenovo.co
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This is my first gaming laptop and I followed folks advice and did clean win11 install and installed helper instead of all Asus software. It is amazingly simple and effective.
Does Lenovo have a gHelper equivalent because that would prob satisfy a majority of folks needs without the bloat.
However, is 16GB enough to last for say, 3-4 years??
It looks like it isn't expandable yikessss
"Memory soldered to systemboard, no slots"
source: https://psref.lenovo.co
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=65354
The screen is better on the Slim 5, but it's also more than I paid for the G14. The refresh rate is lower, not sure if many would notice. Someone else said RAM is soldered on the Slim.