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16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 800W RMS / 1600W Peak Subwoofer Expired

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Adorama has 16" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 800W RMS / 1600W Peak Subwoofer (1070652, Ebony Vinyl) on sale for $1,049. Shipping is free.

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About this Item:
  • Frequency Response: 14.5Hz - 175Hz +/- 3dB
  • Maximum Acoustic Output: 125.5dB
  • Amplifier Type: Class D with Analog Preamp Stage
  • Amplifier Power: 800W RMS / 1600W Peak
  • Woofer: 16" (406.4mm) Ultra Long Throw Cerametallic
  • Enclosure Material: MDF
  • Enclosure Type: Bass Reflex via Front-Firing Aerofoil Slot Port
  • Inputs: Dual RCA/LFE Line In, WA-2 Wireless Port
  • Dimensions (H x W x D): 23.39 x 23.50 x 27.35" (59.4 x 59.7 x 69.5cm)
  • Weight: 110.9 lbs (50.3kg)

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Decent performance for the price for this 16" Klipsch Subwoofer. The 14" is also on sale at Adorama for $699.
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Model: Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 16" 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer

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Some guy that was trying to sell me speakers said "One is none and two is one" when it comes to subs so I guess I'm in for two.
That is a good price on a 16" sub but it's still a lot of money for the average person. The 14" is very powerful and is only $699. The pictures don't do it justice. Look at the dimensions and the weight of the item. The 14" is huge. I wrote an earlier post about how it cracked my wall, but in a good way (meaning it's powerful and shakes the floor and walls)

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04-09-2024 at 08:38 AM.
04-09-2024 at 08:38 AM.
Any deals on the 10" version of this sub??
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zankytanky
04-09-2024 at 11:34 AM.
04-09-2024 at 11:34 AM.
Don't buy from Adorama. I had to destroy the packaging to get the subwoofer out, only to find it had clearly been dropped and damaged. The cabinet was dented and scratched and there is a rattle when the subwoofer gets to 3 loudness. Adorama would not process a return of exchange since the packaging was damaged and only issued me a $100 credit.

Buy through Amazon.
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04-10-2024 at 08:52 AM.
04-10-2024 at 08:52 AM.
one for these or two 14" Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1400SW or even two SVS - 3000 Micro 50/50 Music and movies
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04-10-2024 at 09:52 AM.
04-10-2024 at 09:52 AM.
Quote from zankytanky :
Don't buy from Adorama. I had to destroy the packaging to get the subwoofer out, only to find it had clearly been dropped and damaged. The cabinet was dented and scratched and there is a rattle when the subwoofer gets to 3 loudness. Adorama would not process a return of exchange since the packaging was damaged and only issued me a $100 credit.

Buy through Amazon.

Amazon isn't selling these at 40-50% off are they?
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04-10-2024 at 10:24 AM.
04-10-2024 at 10:24 AM.
Quote from JonathanJ7608 :
Agreed. Amazing how this $1000 sub beats out subs costing $2-3,000 in output
It's because these are massive. Price vs size vs performance. You get good price and performance but the size is huge.

The more expensive subs (e.g., rythmik, psa, etc) all go up in price because they have the same performance at a significantly smaller size.
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04-10-2024 at 01:04 PM.
04-10-2024 at 01:04 PM.
Guys, don't be me: Check how many amps are on your panel before ordering a stupid amount of sub-woofing horsepower. Turns out, my theater room is on a 15a circuit, which is not enough for one of these subs and my projector to run simultaneously, let alone two of these. We're going to make it work, but its going to take some work to get it done.

Sounded great while it lasted, though Big Grin
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04-10-2024 at 05:57 PM.
04-10-2024 at 05:57 PM.
Quote from spressa :
It's because these are massive. Price vs size vs performance. You get good price and performance but the size is huge.

The more expensive subs (e.g., rythmik, psa, etc) all go up in price because they have the same performance at a significantly smaller size.

False
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04-11-2024 at 01:22 AM.
04-11-2024 at 01:22 AM.
Quote from JonathanJ7608 :
False
https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...p=drivesdk

Compare it to the rythmik f18, which is 60% of the size of the Klipsch and has further extended output. You can go bigger and look at the rythmik f15hp which is 75% the size of the Klipsch and smashes the output on the Klipsch. But sure... It's false.
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04-11-2024 at 07:20 AM.
04-11-2024 at 07:20 AM.
Quote from spressa :
https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...p=drivesdk

Compare it to the rythmik f18, which is 60% of the size of the Klipsch and has further extended output. You can go bigger and look at the rythmik f15hp which is 75% the size of the Klipsch and smashes the output on the Klipsch. But sure... It's false.

Let's be clear, PSA literally has refrigerator sized subs... the Rythmik is a sealed servo sub, of course it's going to be smaller. I've had sealed before, I only like them for music. This klipsch still pounces on that rythmik where it matters... CEA-2010 measurements @16hz for klipsch 105 dB. Rythmik barely gets 98 dB with an 18 inch driver...

I'd rather take the size hit
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04-11-2024 at 09:31 AM.
04-11-2024 at 09:31 AM.
Quote from JonathanJ7608 :
Let's be clear, PSA literally has refrigerator sized subs... the Rythmik is a sealed servo sub, of course it's going to be smaller. I've had sealed before, I only like them for music. This klipsch still pounces on that rythmik where it matters... CEA-2010 measurements @16hz for klipsch 105 dB. Rythmik barely gets 98 dB with an 18 inch driver...

I'd rather take the size hit
The fv15hp2 is 75% the size of the Klipsch and is a better sub objectively. That's my original point of size vs performance vs price.

The klipsch is absolutely a good bang for buck sub but a lot of ppl do not have or want to take up that footprint.
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04-11-2024 at 11:13 AM.
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Quote from spressa :
The fv15hp2 is 75% the size of the Klipsch and is a better sub objectively. That's my original point of size vs performance vs price.

The klipsch is absolutely a good bang for buck sub but a lot of ppl do not have or want to take up that footprint.

Wrong, objectively the Rythmik FV18 is the direct competitor to this klipsch in size and output. Of course you save $1k+ by buying the Klipsch.
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04-11-2024 at 03:51 PM.
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I received my pair of rp1600. Running them with 8802 preamp, a pair of xpa1 feeding lsim707. Room is around 22 x 22 with 13' ceiling open to the kitchen, dining room and living room. Here are my opinions and please keep in mind that I'm no expert, just a reg dude. Are they a lot louder than my pair of sb4000? Yes, maybe 1 rp1600 = 2-3 sb4000. However, the quality of the bass is not as good as the sb4000 when it come to music. I'm not sure if it has to do ported vs sealed thing but the sb4000 feel tighter and more controlled. The rp1600 enclosure flex a bit when playing loud so it does sound a bit boomy, the sb4000 doesn't do that and sound very clean and tight. I see why the PB4000 is 150lb and the PB16 is 170lb now. With that much power, you need a solid enclosure or else the sub gonna sound boomy like a drum. They are humongous, I did some measurements ahead of purchase but they are a sight to be seen in person so please keep that in mind. Despite the fact that they are loud, I would never play just a single rp1600. 2 rp1600 at lower volume will always sound better than one at a higher gain imo due to the bass being spread out.
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Quote from JonathanJ7608 :
Wrong, objectively the Rythmik FV18 is the direct competitor to this klipsch in size and output. Of course you save $1k+ by buying the Klipsch.
The fv18 obviously smashes the klipsch. If the fv15 already beats the Klipsch, my original point already was that this Klipsch sub is big compared to subs that are smaller but if you want it to be smaller and have similar performance, you normally have to pay for it.
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Quote from spressa :
The fv18 obviously smashes the klipsch. If the fv15 already beats the Klipsch, my original point already was that this Klipsch sub is big compared to subs that are smaller but if you want it to be smaller and have similar performance, you normally have to pay for it.

Wrong, stop posting misinformation. You can easily compare CEA-2010 measurements on all of these subs. This klipsch hangs with the FV18, beats out the FV15. All HUGE ported subs... except this klipsch is 50% cheaper in comparison.

Maybe I am wrong. Show me where the FV15 is clearly superior? Because it ain't output or price...
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04-12-2024 at 01:36 AM.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...sp=sharing

go look in that database of measurements for subwoofer output.

rp1600 is on line 985
FV15hp is on lines 1755-1758

Look at column CC for the cubic measurement size.(fv15hp is 6.3 vs the klipsch at 8.7 which is 72% of the same volume.)

I'm agreeing with you that the klipsch's performance is good. I've never debated that. I additionally feel that you know what you're talking about and that if we were doing this IRL, we'd probably amp each other up on our excitement/enthusiasm when it comes to the audio space.

My whole original comment was that if you want to go smaller, you generally have to pay for it. The price for this and the rp1200 on sale are amazing for the performance but they're really large subs though. I don't think you can disagree with how large this, monolith, new def tech, etc. are. You already said you'd choose the size difference to save the money which is absolutely understandable/reasonable.

Seriously though, I feel like we're disputing over semantics and honestly probably have the same opinion in performance and value about the subwoofers. I've tried/owned/help install a lot of subs at this caliber (e.g., both the klipsch rp, rythmik f12/l12/g25hp/fv18/fv15hp, almost all of the svs line - even the micro3000, etc.).

At the end of the day, there's a lot of what goes into the consideration of purchasing a subwoofer and how it gets utilized. There's so little subwoofer reviews and I get why there are as well (e.g., accurately measuring it in the same exact environment as before) so there are a few things that I more strongly consider, one of them having good placement in your room. With that said, when something has a large size, it makes it even more difficult to place them in your room and to maximize your performance out of your sub. I would love to be able to use JTR captivators but my wife has a super hard no on it. I had picked up a couple FV18s in the past because I got a stupid stupid good deal on it ($2200 for both) and my wife straight up said no cause they were extremely aesthetically unpleasing to her after getting them and my friends are now benefitting from that deal from me.

We can further extend this conversation into output and real world usage (e.g., 100db output is sick but how often are you really trying to achieve this volume and how much do you value that extra headroom, etc.) and it all comes down to everyone's own use case. From your responses, you're someone who I think I could probably have a valuable discussion on installation/calibration/room treatment/measuring in REW/etc. vs. a lot of ppl who would just do the standard calibration, feel their nuts rumble, and think it's good enough.

I guess what I'm saying is, I appreciate and understand where you're coming from and feel we largely agree.
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