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Product Name: | Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-1600SW 16" 1600W High Excursion Subwoofer, Ebony Vinyl |
Product Description: | About Klipsch RP Series Subwoofer For limited time only, save 42% on the Klipsch RP Series Subwoofer dropping from $1,799.00 to $1,049.00 when you buy this item at Adorama.com and Shipping is free! Advanced Acoustics The new high-performance Klipsch subwoofers worthy of the Reference Premiere moniker are built with our groundbreaking acoustic technology and are, pound for pound, some of the best subwoofers Klipsch has ever created. Balanced Performance Compared to other premium subwoofers on the market, Reference Premiere subwoofers strike an optimal balance between amplifier power, driver capability and cabinet volume for maximum output, detail, and frequency extension. Ground-Up Driver Design A redesigned driver aimed at delivering the ultimate low-frequency experience, the Cerametallic woofers are incredibly powerful and efficient, outperforming the competition. High-Efficiency Class D Amplifier The built-in, high-efficiency amplifier features an analog preamp design, which maintains the original signal path for cleaner, true-to-source reproduction. The Class D output stage ensures maximum output, detail and low frequency power. Monster Bass Anyplace Featuring a front-firing driver, you can place your Reference Premiere subwoofer anywhere you want. The proprietary internal geometry with a new Aerofoil front slot port minimizes turbulence for crisp, tight bass. Easy-To-Use Controls: Low-Pass Crossover And Variable Phase Tune your subwoofer to your Klipsch speakers for the ideal level of bass for the space. 1/2-Watt Standby Mode Exceptional efficiency on and off to reduce your energy costs. Use Inputs Simultaneously Both RCA and wireless inputs can be utilized at the same time, giving you the ability to use a single subwoofer with multiple systems. Line Level/LFE RCA Inputs Ensures compatibility with your AV receiver. Go Wireless The Klipsch WA-2 Wireless Subwoofer Kit (sold separately) produces high-resolution wireless connectivity for easy placement anywhere in your room. Connect up to four WA-2 wireless kits |
Product SKU: | kp1070652 |
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Buy through Amazon.
Buy through Amazon.
Amazon isn't selling these at 40-50% off are they?
The more expensive subs (e.g., rythmik, psa, etc) all go up in price because they have the same performance at a significantly smaller size.
Sounded great while it lasted, though
The more expensive subs (e.g., rythmik, psa, etc) all go up in price because they have the same performance at a significantly smaller size.
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Compare it to the rythmik f18, which is 60% of the size of the Klipsch and has further extended output. You can go bigger and look at the rythmik f15hp which is 75% the size of the Klipsch and smashes the output on the Klipsch. But sure... It's false.
Compare it to the rythmik f18, which is 60% of the size of the Klipsch and has further extended output. You can go bigger and look at the rythmik f15hp which is 75% the size of the Klipsch and smashes the output on the Klipsch. But sure... It's false.
Let's be clear, PSA literally has refrigerator sized subs... the Rythmik is a sealed servo sub, of course it's going to be smaller. I've had sealed before, I only like them for music. This klipsch still pounces on that rythmik where it matters... CEA-2010 measurements @16hz for klipsch 105 dB. Rythmik barely gets 98 dB with an 18 inch driver...
I'd rather take the size hit
I'd rather take the size hit
The klipsch is absolutely a good bang for buck sub but a lot of ppl do not have or want to take up that footprint.
The klipsch is absolutely a good bang for buck sub but a lot of ppl do not have or want to take up that footprint.
Wrong, objectively the Rythmik FV18 is the direct competitor to this klipsch in size and output. Of course you save $1k+ by buying the Klipsch.
Wrong, stop posting misinformation. You can easily compare CEA-2010 measurements on all of these subs. This klipsch hangs with the FV18, beats out the FV15. All HUGE ported subs... except this klipsch is 50% cheaper in comparison.
Maybe I am wrong. Show me where the FV15 is clearly superior? Because it ain't output or price...
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go look in that database of measurements for subwoofer output.
rp1600 is on line 985
FV15hp is on lines 1755-1758
Look at column CC for the cubic measurement size.(fv15hp is 6.3 vs the klipsch at 8.7 which is 72% of the same volume.)
I'm agreeing with you that the klipsch's performance is good. I've never debated that. I additionally feel that you know what you're talking about and that if we were doing this IRL, we'd probably amp each other up on our excitement/enthusiasm when it comes to the audio space.
My whole original comment was that if you want to go smaller, you generally have to pay for it. The price for this and the rp1200 on sale are amazing for the performance but they're really large subs though. I don't think you can disagree with how large this, monolith, new def tech, etc. are. You already said you'd choose the size difference to save the money which is absolutely understandable/reasonable.
Seriously though, I feel like we're disputing over semantics and honestly probably have the same opinion in performance and value about the subwoofers. I've tried/owned/help install a lot of subs at this caliber (e.g., both the klipsch rp, rythmik f12/l12/g25hp/fv18/fv15hp, almost all of the svs line - even the micro3000, etc.).
At the end of the day, there's a lot of what goes into the consideration of purchasing a subwoofer and how it gets utilized. There's so little subwoofer reviews and I get why there are as well (e.g., accurately measuring it in the same exact environment as before) so there are a few things that I more strongly consider, one of them having good placement in your room. With that said, when something has a large size, it makes it even more difficult to place them in your room and to maximize your performance out of your sub. I would love to be able to use JTR captivators but my wife has a super hard no on it. I had picked up a couple FV18s in the past because I got a stupid stupid good deal on it ($2200 for both) and my wife straight up said no cause they were extremely aesthetically unpleasing to her after getting them and my friends are now benefitting from that deal from me.
We can further extend this conversation into output and real world usage (e.g., 100db output is sick but how often are you really trying to achieve this volume and how much do you value that extra headroom, etc.) and it all comes down to everyone's own use case. From your responses, you're someone who I think I could probably have a valuable discussion on installation/calibration/room treatment/measuring in REW/etc. vs. a lot of ppl who would just do the standard calibration, feel their nuts rumble, and think it's good enough.
I guess what I'm saying is, I appreciate and understand where you're coming from and feel we largely agree.