Great single-thread and multi-core benchmarks (3795 and 29002), though may as well consider bump to Ryzen 9 config for + $85 ($1,180.65).
Otherwise, a multi-OSer's dream. In principle, this lappy should support peppy host and three (3) vms with their respective guestOSes.
Minor config disappointments:
(1) USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports -- not Gen 2!
(2) Gen 4 NVMe -- not G5 with backward compatibility.
(I'm tempted to include 1TB storage as #3, ... IF I'm running host and 3 guestOS vms. I pass, though, because that likely applies to 0.001% of users, maybe fewer. For gamers willing to spend $1.1K + tax, you should be shopping true gamer rigs anyway.)
Finally, Given the minor disappointments, plus the observation that the CPU is a bit past its peak as a performance juggernaut among CPUs, this deal is not HOT.
Imo, HOT requires a sub-$1K price. At say $949, it would be a major temptation; at $899, I couldn't confirm my order fast enough, lol. But these are just pipe-dreams.
Anyway, hope this helps.
I disagree with your viewpoints, but I gave you a helpful lightbulb. Screen brightness, ram, 2 TB4 ports, built in cam. This makes a great small workstation for VM environments. Would I have liked to see the latest ryzen? Sure but this is still tempting for me, I'm mulling it over.
I see arguments about color space, and it's very subjective. Many displays are starting to support 100% srgb and DCI-P3. Most, if not all, websites are designed to SRGB color spec. If you deal with print media, color swatches, digital illustration, and digital cinema then you will encounter Adobe rgb, DCI-P3, rec. 709, etc. DCI can oversaturate reds that were chosen under SRGB, but I do like the colors in the DCI profile in my monitor, again, all subjective.
Yes, the Firefly is better. It has a way better display (In terms of resolution, brightness and color gamut), far superior and efficient Processor, almost twice powerful integrated graphics, twice the memory which is also user upgradable. Dragonfly is just a lot lighter but that's about it.
Thinking about returning the Lenovo Flex 7i I purchased from costco last month for $750 for this. the labtop i bought: https://www.costco.com/lenovo-fle...8653.html. Isnt very bright, I noticed this has 500 nits, however I wouldnt have the 90 day return period like costco. Anyone care to chime in? anything comparable at costco?
Minor things to be happy about this config:
(1) 1440p camera
(2) 65W charging adapter means I can pack a tiny GaN charger from Amazon (not sure what HP provides, size-wise) and get full charging potential.
(3) CPU is great performance and good power effiency vs Intel.
(4) 64GB RAM included. Money saved not having to buy a self-installed RAM upgrade and instead put money towards your CON #3.
This laptop isn't meant to be a performance juggernaut, but instead is a really great performance work PC with many good bells and whistles (like useful battery life) added in for just over $1K.
My 64GB Lenovo P16s was just a bit more than this with 4K OLED (but only 60Hz) and I think that was a terrific deal so this is also a great one.
I referred to the CPU as a 'performance juggernaut', not the laptop.
Power: yes, roughly peer Intel Core i9-13900H CPU is 45W (vs. this Ryzen's 54W). Fortunately, the Ryzen's TDP (thermal design; i.e., typical 'heat-up' designed-in to the CPU) is lower than the i9-13000H is lower, so maybe heat and throttling would be a wash between these two?
I agree with your 'perks' and respect your 'great deal' assessment. I've already weighed in, and my earlier stated 'disappointments' imo still lead me to a lukewarm on performance for dollar.
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I disagree with your viewpoints, but I gave you a helpful lightbulb. Screen brightness, ram, 2 TB4 ports, built in cam. This makes a great small workstation for VM environments. Would I have liked to see the latest ryzen? Sure but this is still tempting for me, I'm mulling it over.
TU for your constructive remark. My lappy has USB 3.2 Gen 1, and it is definitely hamstringing me for my huge data sets I use for my machine learning apps dev. This lappy does have the TB port, so at least it offers one high-speed port.
Fwiw, if the $1095 is attractive, I still think the +$85 for the CPU bump is worth considering. Good luck!
The battery is not fantastic, but outside of getting some power profiles setup correctly the machine is the best laptop I've ever owned. Light, fast and the keyboard is comparable (for me) to a Dell / Lenovo / Thinkpad.
Thanks for the firsthand testimony. Given the display and cpu combo and their combined power draw, that's what I suspected.
I bit the bullet and bought this deal - thank you guys. Combined with the AMEX CC offer for $150 off, it made it a pretty slick deal. This is for my travel laptop where my Latitude 7430 with the i7-1270p kept throttling and making a lot of noise and the 16gb of ram wasn't ideal for me (I don't need 64gb honestly, but needed 32gb).
I bit the bullet and bought this deal - thank you guys. Combined with the AMEX CC offer for $150 off, it made it a pretty slick deal. This is for my travel laptop where my Latitude 7430 with the i7-1270p kept throttling and making a lot of noise and the 16gb of ram wasn't ideal for me (I don't need 64gb honestly, but needed 32gb).
Congrats and good luck, amelon. I'm missing that 64GB right now, as I'm prototyping AI agents right now utilizing 100% in-memory databases. I come up against my 16GB regularly and performance drags. I do have 32GB in my home mini, so at least I have an (inconvenient) option.
The battery is not fantastic, but outside of getting some power profiles setup correctly the machine is the best laptop I've ever owned. Light, fast and the keyboard is comparable (for me) to a Dell / Lenovo / Thinkpad.
Congrats and good luck, amelon. I'm missing that 64GB right now, as I'm prototyping AI agents right now utilizing 100% in-memory databases. I come up against my 16GB regularly and performance drags. I do have 32GB in my home mini, so at least I have an (inconvenient) option.
I just use it for general multi tasking. I figured 16gb is enough, but I'm usually at 90% usage with all the browsers, outlook, photoshop open. I think 32gb is the sweet spot for me (although 64gb can't hurt).
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Otherwise, a multi-OSer's dream. In principle, this lappy should support peppy host and three (3) vms with their respective guestOSes.
Minor config disappointments:
(1) USB 3.2 Gen 1 ports -- not Gen 2!
(2) Gen 4 NVMe -- not G5 with backward compatibility.
(I'm tempted to include 1TB storage as #3, ... IF I'm running host and 3 guestOS vms. I pass, though, because that likely applies to 0.001% of users, maybe fewer. For gamers willing to spend $1.1K + tax, you should be shopping true gamer rigs anyway.)
Finally, Given the minor disappointments, plus the observation that the CPU is a bit past its peak as a performance juggernaut among CPUs, this deal is not HOT.
Imo, HOT requires a sub-$1K price. At say $949, it would be a major temptation; at $899, I couldn't confirm my order fast enough, lol. But these are just pipe-dreams.
Anyway, hope this helps.
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(1) 1440p camera
(2) 65W charging adapter means I can pack a tiny GaN charger from Amazon (not sure what HP provides, size-wise) and get full charging potential.
(3) CPU is great performance and good power effiency vs Intel.
(4) 64GB RAM included. Money saved not having to buy a self-installed RAM upgrade and instead put money towards your CON #3.
This laptop isn't meant to be a performance juggernaut, but instead is a really great performance work PC with many good bells and whistles (like useful battery life) added in for just over $1K.
My 64GB Lenovo P16s was just a bit more than this with 4K OLED (but only 60Hz) and I think that was a terrific deal so this is also a great one.
Power: yes, roughly peer Intel Core i9-13900H CPU is 45W (vs. this Ryzen's 54W). Fortunately, the Ryzen's TDP (thermal design; i.e., typical 'heat-up' designed-in to the CPU) is lower than the i9-13000H is lower, so maybe heat and throttling would be a wash between these two?
I agree with your 'perks' and respect your 'great deal' assessment. I've already weighed in, and my earlier stated 'disappointments' imo still lead me to a lukewarm on performance for dollar.
Fwiw, if the $1095 is attractive, I still think the +$85 for the CPU bump is worth considering. Good luck!
The battery is not fantastic, but outside of getting some power profiles setup correctly the machine is the best laptop I've ever owned. Light, fast and the keyboard is comparable (for me) to a Dell / Lenovo / Thinkpad.
The battery is not fantastic, but outside of getting some power profiles setup correctly the machine is the best laptop I've ever owned. Light, fast and the keyboard is comparable (for me) to a Dell / Lenovo / Thinkpad.
How long does the battery last?
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