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Is it ok to fill an McDonalds Ice Coffee Cup with Soda?

627 181 October 23, 2012 at 02:54 PM in Grocery
So its been bugging me but I dunno if someone could answer this.

My friends and I like to hang out at a McDonalds because we're hooked on the Iced Coffee as its cheap.

I typically order a large Ice coffee but sometimes I finish it early. I went to fill it with soda and a lady (another fellow customer) gave me a comment about how I shouldn't be doing that and should purchase a fountain drink cup (McDonalds has that $1 any size fountain drink going on)
I ignored her but its been bugging me.

Is it appropriate to just empty the left-over ice out of the cup and fill it with something from the Self-Serve Fountain Drink dispenser? (I understand its ok if I fill it with water)

What do you guys think?

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10-31-2012 at 11:45 AM.
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10-31-2012 at 11:49 AM.
10-31-2012 at 11:49 AM.
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I'm sorry, did I ASK you for A REFILL?
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10-31-2012 at 12:09 PM.
10-31-2012 at 12:09 PM.
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I'm sorry, did I ASK you for A REFILL?
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10-31-2012 at 12:16 PM.
10-31-2012 at 12:16 PM.
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I think it's pretty nice that my local optical shop does this. I came in fully expecting to pay, but they said they were happy to do it for free. Then again, I am paying 4-5x the cost of Costco and several hundred times the cost of Zenni.

Why do you think I keep coming back?
When we first opened the business, I would do free remakes and adjustments for anyone. After about 1-2 yrs, I realized that it wasn't benefiting the office and wasn't garnering loyalty to the business as far as those ppl who weren't patients at the office. They just kept coming back for free repairs for years and were never patients at our office.

So, we changed the policy and started charging for repairs for non-patients and a minimal charge for our patients if the glasses were purchased from us over 2 yrs ago. If they are our patients but the eyeglasses were purchased elsewhere, it's a judgement call and we may or may not do it for free depending on the repair and the circumstances. For the most part, ppl don't complain. And, all in all, I have no problems with doing it for free for most patients.

My only qualm (and I think most here will understand) are those ppl who feel that we're obligated to do the repair for them for free. That they're entitled to it despite the fact that they've never been to our office before. And, they'll get very rude and demanding about it. As a matter of principle, I wouldn't want to do it for them. If ppl are nice about it, then we'll often make exceptions. Be rude, for sure we won't.Big Grin

For example, there was a random guy who came into our office and saw that we sold Maui Jim sunglasses. He said that he didn't buy them from us and bought his yrs ago and they're broken now. He said that he was told that Maui Jim's were warrantied for life and he could bring them to ANY store that carries Maui Jims to have them repaired/replaced for free. Of course, this was NOT true.

But, as a courtesy, we called up Maui Jim HQ to see what they can do. Of course, they laughed when we told them what the man said. But, as a matter of customer service, they offered to send us the broken part for free. Note, the man even admitted that he bought them at least 2 yrs ago in another state! They would only charge for shipping. And, we would assemble/repair the frame for him for free. We only asked the man to pay for the shipping.

He refused and actually got very demanding and rude. He made it out like we were obligated to do it for him totally for free and he should pay nothing. We told him that Maui Jim HQ even told us to charge him for the labor to repair the glasses but we chose to do it for free as a courtesy. In the end, he refused to pay for the shipping ( a mere $8 ) and stormed out the office. Good riddance, I say!

Pretty stupid considering the fact that the broken $200-250 Maui Jim sunglasses were now useless since the entire temple was broken and he didn't want to spend just $8 to repair it! That's the type of behavior we sometimes deal with and this is the type which comes to mind when I do mention this issue. I think most would agree that it's irrational.

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Iagree

I'm an optician and we do it for free too. I don't have a issue with doing minor repairs as a courtesy. It makes people happy and then when it is time for them to buy they will hopefully remember us.


z2g are you a optician, ophthalmologist or optometrist?
I'm an optometrist.
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10-31-2012 at 12:31 PM.
10-31-2012 at 12:31 PM.
Redmaxx,
By the way, you can't really compare the cost at Costco vs Zenni vs private practices. First of all, Costco isn't 4-5 times cheaper. I did the numbers because I've worked at a Costco Optometry. The lenses are about 30-40% cheaper at Costco depending on where you go. And the reason why they're cheaper is because you're buying from the optical lab directly. For most private practices, they contract out the lens surfacing. Thus, the lab is charged X amount for the lenses and must charge more to patients.

You can't even consider the frames since ANY designer frames at Costco are closeout and discontinued frames. You can get good deals on those at your local private practice too if they have those closeout frames in stock and are trying to sell them at a discount. At my office, the designer frame reps will often tell us of current closeout frames that we can stock up on that will be sold to us at half off of the wholesale cost. So, we then sell those frames at half off the retail too.

As far as Zenni optical, you're buying from an overseas optical. Note, most overseas country don't even require permits, licensing, or training to become opticians and own an optical. You can just decide one day and open up shop with no formal training. Those countries also don't have standards for ophthalmic lens/equipment quality either.

Hence, I've seen prescription sunglasses made in other countries that had tinted lenses that had ZERO UV protection properties! Note, these are prescription sunglasses! That's unheard of in the U.S. since even the cheapest clear lenses will have at least 50-70 UV blocking properties since it's inherent in the material itself. I have no idea what kind of plastic materials they are using that has zero UV blocking properties.

I have friends and patients who actually have family who own opticals in their native countries. These friends and patients visit back home often. Yet, they don't get their glasses from their own family's optical because even they say the glasses suck. The prescription is often off and the quality is horrible. Low quality lenses that often have major optical aberrations or induced prisms. I've seen this quite often actually.
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10-31-2012 at 12:49 PM.
10-31-2012 at 12:49 PM.
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I'm an optometrist.
This is not a comment to be mean but you seem to be a bit to opinionated and uppity. I bet you are a hard person to work for. Your place of business is not the only place that makes quality glasses and not all discount places suck. I've work for different ones in my life and all of them have good and bad thing about them. Doctor offices are often well over priced for the same quality you can get from some of the big chain stores. Please don't lump them all together. Right now work for a major optical chain and we take great pride in our glasses. My frame are not cheaply made and the majority of my lens are cut in my Dallas lab. (good old USA) Enough said. I'm not looking to be rude.
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10-31-2012 at 01:07 PM.
10-31-2012 at 01:07 PM.
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This is not a comment to be mean but you seem to be a bit to opinionated and uppity. I bet you are a hard person to work for. Your place of business is not the only place that makes quality glasses and not all discount places suck. I've work for different ones in my life and all of them have good and bad thing about them. Doctor offices are often well over priced for the same quality you can get from some of the big chain stores. Please don't lump them all together. Right now work for a major optical chain and we take great pride in our glasses. My frame are not cheaply made and the majority of my lens are cut in my Dallas lab. (good old USA) Enough said. I'm not looking to be rude.
Did I say that your optical (in the U.S.) has low quality materials? I just said that many of the online opticals are overseas. And, customers should be wary of that fact.

How am I being "opinionated" and "uppity" when I'm stating professional opinion, fact, and actual anecdotal experiences from actual customers of those overseas online opticals? I'm sorry if you're offended by my comments. However, I'm just trying to educate and inform ppl here of these issues.

Note, when ppl ask me about online opticals, I always tell them these things but I NEVER tell them to don't use them. I just tell them what I know of them and suggest that even buying from Walmart or Costco is a better option since it'll be a local B&M optical. Or, I tell them to try to find online opticals that are in the United States.

By the way, I've always wondered about this and wanted to ask you since you're an online optical. By all means, it's only because I'm curious and would find the information useful when I'm educating patients. How do you go about getting segment heights for patients who get bifocals, trifocals, or progressives? What do you do if the patient doesn't have their pupillary distance...especially those ordering progressives which require monocular PD measurements?
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10-31-2012 at 01:17 PM.
10-31-2012 at 01:17 PM.
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Did I say that your optical (in the U.S.) has low quality materials? I just said that many of the online opticals are overseas. And, customers should be wary of that fact.

How am I being "opinionated" and "uppity" when I'm stating professional opinion, fact, and actual anecdotal experiences from actual customers of those overseas online opticals? I'm sorry if you're offended by my comments. However, I'm just trying to educate and inform ppl here of these issues.

Note, when ppl ask me about online opticals, I always tell them these things but I NEVER tell them to don't use them. I just tell them what I know of them and suggest that even buying from Walmart or Costco is a better option since it'll be a local B&M optical.

By the way, I've always wondered about this and wanted to ask you since you're an online optical. By all means, it's only because I'm curious and would find the information useful when I'm educating patients. How do you go about getting segment heights for patients who get bifocals, trifocals, or progressives? What do you do if the patient doesn't have their pupillary distance...especially those ordering progressives which require monocular PD measurements?
I'm not with an online optical business. I'm associated with a major B&M optical store. Thank you.
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10-31-2012 at 01:41 PM.
10-31-2012 at 01:41 PM.
battle of the optometrists
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z2g is jaded he doesnt see the world through rose colored spectacles.
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10-31-2012 at 01:41 PM.
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Quote from z2g :
When we first opened the business, I would do free remakes and adjustments for anyone. After about 1-2 yrs, I realized that it wasn't benefiting the office and wasn't garnering loyalty to the business as far as those ppl who weren't patients at the office. They just kept coming back for free repairs for years and were never patients at our office.

So, we changed the policy and started charging for repairs for non-patients and a minimal charge for our patients if the glasses were purchased from us over 2 yrs ago. If they are our patients but the eyeglasses were purchased elsewhere, it's a judgement call and we may or may not do it for free depending on the repair and the circumstances. For the most part, ppl don't complain. And, all in all, I have no problems with doing it for free for most patients.

My only qualm (and I think most here will understand) are those ppl who feel that we're obligated to do the repair for them for free. That they're entitled to it despite the fact that they've never been to our office before. And, they'll get very rude and demanding about it. As a matter of principle, I wouldn't want to do it for them. If ppl are nice about it, then we'll often make exceptions. Be rude, for sure we won't.Big Grin

For example, there was a random guy who came into our office and saw that we sold Maui Jim sunglasses. He said that he didn't buy them from us and bought his yrs ago and they're broken now. He said that he was told that Maui Jim's were warrantied for life and he could bring them to ANY store that carries Maui Jims to have them repaired/replaced for free. Of course, this was NOT true.

But, as a courtesy, we called up Maui Jim HQ to see what they can do. Of course, they laughed when we told them what the man said. But, as a matter of customer service, they offered to send us the broken part for free. Note, the man even admitted that he bought them at least 2 yrs ago in another state! They would only charge for shipping. And, we would assemble/repair the frame for him for free. We only asked the man to pay for the shipping.

He refused and actually got very demanding and rude. He made it out like we were obligated to do it for him totally for free and he should pay nothing. We told him that Maui Jim HQ even told us to charge him for the labor to repair the glasses but we chose to do it for free as a courtesy. In the end, he refused to pay for the shipping ( a mere $8 ) and stormed out the office. Good riddance, I say!

Pretty stupid considering the fact that the broken $200-250 Maui Jim sunglasses were now useless since the entire temple was broken and he didn't want to spend just $8 to repair it! That's the type of behavior we sometimes deal with and this is the type which comes to mind when I do mention this issue. I think most would agree that it's irrational.
You wouldn't run into so many of these problems if you didn't focus your customer base primarily on asians.

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10-31-2012 at 01:49 PM.
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When we first opened the business, I would do free remakes and adjustments for anyone. After about 1-2 yrs, I realized that it wasn't benefiting the office and wasn't garnering loyalty to the business as far as those ppl who weren't patients at the office. They just kept coming back for free repairs for years and were never patients at our office.
So you're saying that if someone buys glasses from you but doesn't get an eye exam, you charge for adjustments and stuff?

That seems kind of stingy. I see an actual opthalmologist because of some special issues I have and then go to a local optical/optometry shop near me for glasses. It sounds like if they operated the way you did, I'd get charged, which would definitely leave a bad taste in my mouth.

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My only qualm (and I think most here will understand) are those ppl who feel that we're obligated to do the repair for them for free. That they're entitled to it despite the fact that they've never been to our office before. And, they'll get very rude and demanding about it. As a matter of principle, I wouldn't want to do it for them. If ppl are nice about it, then we'll often make exceptions. Be rude, for sure we won't.Big Grin
Well yeah that's rude, and wrong. You shouldn't expect to get free stuff just walking into somewhere unless they advertise it.

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Redmaxx,
By the way, you can't really compare the cost at Costco vs Zenni vs private practices. First of all, Costco isn't 4-5 times cheaper. I did the numbers because I've worked at a Costco Optometry. The lenses are about 30-40% cheaper at Costco depending on where you go. And the reason why they're cheaper is because you're buying from the optical lab directly. For most private practices, they contract out the lens surfacing. Thus, the lab is charged X amount for the lenses and must charge more to patients.
Well, the end result is that I can compare them: Glasses sitting on my face that I can see out of. The only difference is potentially in quality of materials, selection, workmanship, and after-sale services. Which is why I'm currently going to this local shop, since they have a bit higher quality, better selection, and much better after-sale services.

It's not like I'm trying to compare the glasses to a pizza or something, they are directly comparable. And the frame and set of lenses at my local Costco I would select are 4-5 times the cost I did select at my local shop. The cost of frames at my local shop are more, but I'm sorry, I'm still getting "ripped off" in a sense, because I know these frames aren't $300. But again, the ability to get rimless is worth the difference, so it is directly comparable. I probably would switch back to Costco if I couldn't find frames I like because even stepping down to discount frames, the difference is still easily 3.5x at the local optical shop.

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As far as Zenni optical, you're buying from an overseas optical. Note, most overseas country don't even require permits, licensing, or training to become opticians and own an optical. You can just decide one day and open up shop with no formal training. Those countries also don't have standards for ophthalmic lens/equipment quality either.
Doesn't make a bit of difference to me. An analogy to this from my field is offshoring and outsourcing of software development. If I were about to be outsourced to an offshore development shop, me telling management that they can't make a cost comparison to the other developer because he doesn't have the same rigorous training and experience I do would be dismissed out of hand. At the end of the day, all they'd care about is a delivered product.

Which is why the local shop is winning my business. They are adding value that other places like Zenni don't and I respect and recognize that. Not everyone will and you can't just tell people that Zenni isn't comparable. It obviously is for them.

Speaking of Zenni, I'm not entirely sure that Costco isn't using a shop like them. It usually takes them nearly two weeks to get a pair of glasses in, which curiously is roughly the time it takes Zenni to get glasses to me.
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10-31-2012 at 02:14 PM.
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10-31-2012 at 03:13 PM.
10-31-2012 at 03:13 PM.
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Nevermind there sizzle chest, just tell me about the damn peelies Ranting
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10-31-2012 at 03:34 PM.
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Nevermind there sizzle chest, just tell me about the damn peelies Ranting
I may have borrowed a few peelies off of the Sargento cheese at Walmart the other day. My husband laughed when I said I was borrowing them but I told him I'll be bringing them back so it's all gravy. laugh out loud
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10-31-2012 at 03:42 PM.
10-31-2012 at 03:42 PM.
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I may have borrowed a few peelies off of the Sargento cheese at Walmart the other day. My husband laughed when I said I was borrowing them but I told him I'll be bringing them back so it's all gravy. laugh out loud
The 55 cents one???? For the slices or snacks??? bounce
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