College women told to urinate or vomit to deter a rapist

Quote from Rebound : That's delusional.

Is it? Ignoring the latino vote is very dangerous today...

Quote from Rebound : Oh? Do you think you can open a store anywhere you want? If Costco buys the house next door to yours, can they just put up a warehouse there because they want to?

Mars folder cigarette Tennessee.

Quote from Rebound : Sure, but Chicago is a very short drive away from three other states - Indiana, Wisconsin and Michigan. If you ban gun sales on the odd side of the street but not the even side of the street, would you expect gun crime to decrease on the odd side of the street?

Ergo, gun bans won't work because of Mexico. I'm glad Rebound is finally understanding this as well.

Quote from Deusxmachina : No, it wouldn't. Because I'd just have my military walk across the open border and take over the country from within. Nice of you to disarm all the citizenry for me. thanks. Maybe I'd even do it over a period of 20 or 30 years and just do it by voting after all my military people and their kids become citizens.

How about your military and our corporate government caps America's population at 1 Billion by 2050?

Quote from msummers80 : I don't care what they believe it will do. I'm not a liberal, so intentions are of less importance to me than actual consequence. Seeing that all tyrannies require a disarmed people, and that governments tend to slide into tyranny without constant vigilance, the unintended consequences on this one are too big to ignore. Sure everything is peachy in 2013, but what about 3013 or 3063? What about for my grandchildren or great grandchildren?

Now I don't think that the current "gun control" initiative will do any good at all, but I have to take issue with this. Who do you consider tyrants? Hitler? Mussolini? Pol Pot? Stalin? Castro?

Hitler loosened gun laws, allowing for easier private ownership of guns. Mussolini never banned guns at all, and neither did Pol Pot (although there weren't many guns in his country anyway). Stalin and Castro only came to power in the first place *because* of lots of private gun ownership.

Tyranny hasn't historically been linked to "gun control." Alex Jones is a big liar. If you want an example of gun control, you can find plenty. Look at Australia. Nazi Germany, though, isn't an example.

Quote from xveganrox : Stalin and Castro only came to power in the first place *because* of lots of private gun ownership.

Exactly. This idea the gun-lovers have of fighting the next American Revolution may deliver us into the arms of a dictator, not liberate us from one.

Quote from xveganrox : Hitler loosened gun laws, allowing for easier private ownership of guns. Tyranny hasn't historically been linked to "gun control." Alex Jones is a big liar. If you want an example of gun control, you can find plenty. Look at Australia. Nazi Germany, though, isn't an example.

Did Hitler loosen gun laws for Jews?

Quote from xveganrox : Now I don't think that the current "gun control" initiative will do any good at all, but I have to take issue with this. Who do you consider tyrants? Hitler? Mussolini? Pol Pot? Stalin? Castro? Hitler loosened gun laws, allowing for easier private ownership of guns. Mussolini never banned guns at all, and neither did Pol Pot (although there weren't many guns in his country anyway). Stalin and Castro only came to power in the first place *because* of lots of private gun ownership. Tyranny hasn't historically been linked to "gun control." Alex Jones is a big liar. If you want an example of gun control, you can find plenty. Look at Australia. Nazi Germany, though, isn't an example.

Quote from Rebound : Exactly. This idea the gun-lovers have of fighting the next American Revolution may deliver us into the arms of a dictator, not liberate us from one.

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Making it legal for your hobnail-jackboot-thug,party member supporters to acquire firearms and illegal for your opponents to do so is hardly loosening of gun laws. Neither is it an action oriented at securing the most liberty for individuals. And now you've come to suggest tyrants come to power because we don't have enough tyranny...

Quote from xveganrox : Now I don't think that the current "gun control" initiative will do any good at all, but I have to take issue with this. Who do you consider tyrants? Hitler? Mussolini? Pol Pot? Stalin? Castro? Hitler loosened gun laws, allowing for easier private ownership of guns. Mussolini never banned guns at all, and neither did Pol Pot (although there weren't many guns in his country anyway). Stalin and Castro only came to power in the first place *because* of lots of private gun ownership. Tyranny hasn't historically been linked to "gun control." Alex Jones is a big liar. If you want an example of gun control, you can find plenty. Look at Australia. Nazi Germany, though, isn't an example.

No. You're lying. There is a strong correlation between tyrants and gun control schemes.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control under one of the bloodiest despots in modern history, Joseph Stalin. From 1929 to 1953, approximately 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1928, Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Christians, gypsies, the mentally ill, and others, who were unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1935, China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents were unable to defend themselves and were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1964, Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1970, Uganda, under brutal dictator Idi Amin, established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1956, Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated" people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

That places total victims who lost their lives at the hands of their own governments because of gun control at approximately 56 million in the last century.

Quote from darkfrog : No. You're lying. There is a strong correlation between tyrants and gun control schemes. That places total victims who lost their lives at the hands of their own governments because of gun control at approximately 56 million in the last century.

And how many of those atrocities were committed with the populace controlling xxxxxxxx weapons? And please don't make the false assumption advocates of reasonable gun control will not stand toe-to-toe with you against the government of the United States fighting to death for the right to defend their families against criminal threats posed by anyone who threatens the life of their families.

Quote from WindySummer : And how many of those atrocities were committed with the populace controlling xxxxxxxx weapons? And please don't make the false assumption advocates of reasonable gun control will not stand toe-to-toe with you against the government of the United States fighting to death for the right to defend their families against criminal threats posed by anyone who threatens the life of their families.

Those will be the first persons shot.

Looks like good advice, I would also add wasp spray to the list, the cans that say "shoots 20ft". A friend of mine in college always carried a can under the drivers seat. One day someone tried to jump them as they were getting the car and he shot them with wasp spray in the face. That guy is thinking twice now about trying to rob people.

Quote from Dumpsterdiver : Those will be the first persons shot.

Why is that?

Quote from TRNT : If it was not clear, gun ownership has a societal cost.

Even if true, this is a trade off, not a pure cost.

Liberty costs safety.

Safety costs liberty.

There is basically no way around that.