UPDATE: 11/2018 - When I first posted this, it was a very good deal. This kit is no longer available, and for the price is still a decent deal considering the Costco return policy. There is a newer version of this kit - with "active defense" cameras - that is they have 2-way talk, PIR sensors - for the same price. There are threads on that kit here on SlickDeals as well as on ipcamtalk.
At this time, this "deal thread" is still a useful reference, and should be used as such instead of considering this a current deal.
This appears to be is a great deal on a POE 4K / 8MP security camera system / surveillance camera system / kit.
Having used wireless products which failed to provide the reliability I needed in a security camera system I've been looking closely at wired systems, and this is what I would currently recommend taking a serious look at.
After extensive review of video captures ( see the below wiki ) as well as calculation of the ID distance it is clear that if you want the greatest chance to ID any suspects you will need proper placement of security cameras as well as plenty of pixels on target. This 4K / 8MP security camera system represents a exceptional value which with proper placement can give you superior chances to ID suspects compared to all the lower resolution options at a price less than 2x this kit.
This deal does not appear online at Costco.com, but only in the B&M stores. I suspect this is because the price is lower than what Lorex would like advertised.
Costco Store Locator
https://m.costco.com/warehouse-locations
Please check your local store for this deal. ( Local stores may still have this kit, mine had it for about 1 month )
Update: 12/5/2017 - also available on Google Express, please see the bottom for more info. Thanks to EverGreed
Now available online at costco.com - thanks vtm6000
IF you have any doubts, I highly recommend you pick this up from your local Costco if they have it and bench test it. Remember Costco has a great return policy, and I think you will really like this once you've invested a little time playing with it.
My local costco B&M had it on display, and indeed it looks like Dahua is the OEM based on the cameras and NVR interface I saw. This appears to be a great deal as the cheapest I can find a Dahua 4K / 8MP camera in this form factor is about $150 shipped from China. 6x $150 = $900. Thus for less than 6 similar 4K / 8MP cameras I get 6 cameras AND a 8 port POE NVR w/a 2 TB HDD. ( I would expect to spend $250+ for the NVR and HDD )
Note regarding "4K" / 8MP cameras - currently most of what are called 4K security cameras are not fully compliant with known 4K standards as they do not have enough processing power to fully handle enough fps to fully meet any 4K specs. Thus while their resolution maybe 4K compatible, their fps are not. In this case the cameras in this kit are able to record 15 fps, which is typically good enough for most security camera applications while keeping the storage needed for the videos lower than a fully compliant 4K camera due to the reduced fps.
Info:
Lorex Kit Model number: LNR6826K
1x 8 port POE NVR. rated for 4K cameras w/2TB HDD - ( looks like model NR9082 LNR6100 / LNR6108 )
6x 4K 4mm lens 88 deg FOV POE outdoor rated cameras - ( looks like model LNB8111B LNB8005 )
6x 100ft 60ft of ethernet cable[*]
Costco Item: 1163871
Thus, you have 2 more ports available for additional cameras to augment this kit, so you can purchase cameras which maybe specific for night time images ( like the Dahua starlight lines of 2MP cameras ) or perhaps even a PTZ or a smaller camera by your front door.
[ * - Thanks beef1218 who picked up a kit and noted that if you want to return the kit you will need to also return the ethernet cable
thus, we recommend that you buy a bulk 1000ft box from monoprice and cut custom lengths as needed setting the ethernet cable aside from the kit in case you need to return it. ]
Camera info:
Image Sensor 1/2.5" 8MP
Effective Pixels H: 3840 × V: 2160
S/N Ratio 42dB (AGC OFF)
AES Shutter Speed 1/3 (1/4) ~ 1/10,000 seconds
Min. Illumination 0.5 lux without IR
Video Output IP
Lens / Lens Type 4mm F1.6 / Fixed
Termination RJ45 Ethernet / 12V DC Power)
IR LED Type 850nm
Night Vision Range 130ft (40m) / 90ft (27m)
Power Requirement PoE (Power over Ethernet) Class 0 / 12V DC
Power Consumption Max. 330mA / 4W
Operating Humidity Range Less than 95% RH
Environmental Rating IP66 (Indoor / Outdoor)
Weight 1lb / 0.5kg
PDF spec sheets from Lorex LNB8005 camera:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ecs_R1.pdf
LNB8111B camera
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ecs_R3.pdf
The camera can capture 4K video at 15fps - which is good for most security camera installations, if you need more fps you can run the cameras at lower resolution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0TcXPOJaog
NVR spec sheet ( LNR6100 ) - note has room for 1 HDD vs 2 HDD for NR9082
( spec sheet may indicate upto 1x 6TB HDD supported, numerous people have tested 8-10TB HDDs in newer Dahua NVRs to work w/o issues )
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ecs_R1.pdf
Mobile app access and Cloud options is available via FLIR product offers, as well as other options if you are willing to take some additional time to configure.
You do not even have to connect this to the internet if you decide to keep it isolated.
It appears to be the following system,
which is listed at $1999.99 on the lorex site:
( note there is a 15% off code, so $1700 )
4KHDIP86
https://www.lorextechnology.com/4...HDIP86-1-p
[ update thanks to Atken ] the LNR6826K kit - which currently has no list price on the lorex site:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/h...R6826K-0-p
Note reviews on the Lorex site, 9/10 there are 3 reviews all indicating purchase from Costco - one indicating got it to work with T-mobile ( see comment section for more discussion points )
https://www.lorextechnology.com/h...iewSection
Each 4K ( 8MP ) camera is listed at
$329.99 on the lorex site:
LNB8111B
https://www.lorextechnology.com/4...8111BW-1-p
[ update thanks to Atken ]
I was unable to find the webpage for the camera model LNB8005 on the lorex website
comparing the pdf spec sheets for the LNB8005 and LNB8111B they appear to have the same specs.
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ecs_R3.pdf
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ecs_R1.pdf
Wondering if they made a special model number for Costco.
note review under the 4KHDIP86 kit: "Georgex July 21, 2017
Location: Los Angeles
Bought it from Costco over a week ago.."
References for the LNB8111B camera:
Video images from the camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sztvgyX-Uco
B&H is listing the LNB8111B camera for $399
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...ullet.html
Staples is listing the LNB8111B camera for $343
https://www.staples.com/Lorex-By-...ct_2699217
Walmart is listing the LNB8111B camera for $300
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lorex-.../601912473
If you need a
junction box for this, please search for
Dahua PFA121 ( IP66 rated when properly installed ) - this will allow you to put the connectors into the junction box instead of leaving them outside or stuffing them into your walls. Also a junction box allows you to connect with 1/2 EMT conduit to run your ethernet cabling through it ( you will need to use bulk cable and terminate the RJ45 )
http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/pro...16141.html
Note, Lorex has recently added a junction box which should work for these cameras on their site:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/a...S1JF2G-1-p
The camera appears similar to IPC-HFW4830E-S, note the specs are different in some aspects
http://www1.dahuasecurity.com/pro...-4331.html
Downloads for the NVR as well as manual:
https://www.lorextechnology.com/s...wnloadsTab
https://www.lorextechnology.com/d...ler-idu1.1
ID spec distance and associated area max covered calculations ( 100ppf+ ):
Lorex LNB8005 4K camera 4mm lens 88 degrees:
25.0 feet [ this is actually very good for a camera with this wide angle lens, note the range will be reduced in low light conditions. ]
This is the theoretical max based on raw pixels from the horizontal resolution and the horizontal FOV. Calculations based on data provided in ads / spec sheets. Some vendors like to play games and list diagonal FOV instead of horizontal FOV as that number is bigger and not clarify that it is diagonal FOV.
Actual real world results will be decreased due to the quality of the camera ( glass vs plastic lens, compression quality, sw/firmware,... ), installation view, as well as environmental conditions ( low light, haze, fog, glare off snow, water rain,.. ).
Practical meaning: Place your cameras in such a manner that any suspect / subject you wish to potentially ID is within this ID spec distance, as well as in a placement which will give you a high likelihood of obtaining a good facial image ( mount camera 8 feet or less high ).
For a license plate expect to need 60-80 ppf during the day. ( multiply the ID distance by 1.25-1.66 to determine the theoretical distance get a good readable license plate image ) Some will say you can go as low as 40 ppf and still read a plate.
compare to:
Ring Video Doorbell 720p at 160 degrees: 4.08 feet { 23.23 sq feet covered }
Logitech Logi Circle HD Wireless Security Camera 720p at 135 degrees: 5.44 feet { 34.85 sq feet covered }
Arlo Pro / Arlo Go / Netgear Flexpower HD camera 720p at 130 degress: 5.644 feet { 36.12 sq feet covered }
LaView 2MP 1080p fisheye WiFi camera LV-PWF80216-W 1080p at 185 degrees: 5.95 feet { 57.13 sq feet covered }
Logitech Circle 2 (V-R0008) 1080p at 180 degrees: 6.11 feet { 58.6 sq feet covered }
ezviz Mini Trooper 720p wire free cam at 116° : 6.33 feet { 40.54 sq feet covered }
Foscam C1 720p at 115 degrees: 6.38 feet { 40 sq feet covered }
YI Home Camera 720p at 111 degrees: 6.61 feet { 42.3 sq feet covered }
Arlo 720p at 110 degrees: 6.67 feet { 42.68 sq feet covered }
Blink XT - 720p ( 1080p version is planned ) at 110 degrees: 6.67 feet { 42.68 sq feet covered }
Ring Video Doorbell 2 / Pro / Elite 1080p at 160 degrees: 6.88 feet { 66.06 sq feet covered }
Ring Spotlight Cam wired / battery / solar 1080p at 140 degrees: 7.86 feet { 75.44 sq feet covered }
Ring Floodlight Cam 1080p at 140 degrees: 7.86 feet { 75.44 sq feet covered }
Eufy EverCam 1080p at 140°: 7.86 feet { 75.44 sq feet covered }
D-Link DCS-933L 640x480 at 45.3: 8.0988 feet { 25.92 sq feet covered }
ezviz CV-200 Mini Plus 1080p 135° : 8.15 feet { 78.21 sq feet covered }
Arlo Q / Arlo Q plus 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Arlo Pro 2 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Nest Cam Outdoor / Indoor 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Samsung SmartCam SNH-V6431BN / V6414BN 1080p at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Xiaomi MIJIA Smart 1080P IP Camera at 130 degrees: 8.47 feet { 81.34 sq feet covered }
Amcrest IPM-721S 720p IP camera at 85 deg H FOV as per chat w/Amcrest: 8.63 feet { 55.2 sq feet covered }
Zmodo
"spoe is not compatible with poe" bullet cam 2.8mm 720p at 81 degrees: 9.06 feet {57.99 sq feet covered }
Ring Stick Up 720p at 80 degrees: 9.17 feet { 58.67 sq feet covered }
Canary Flex 1080p at 116 degrees: 9.488 feet { 91.08 sq feet covered }
YI Dome Camera 1080p HD 112°: 9.82 feet { 94.396 sq feet covered }
Foscam R2 1080p at 110 degrees: 10.00 feet { 95.94 sq feet covered }
Wyze Cam 1080P 110°: 10.00 feet { 95.94 sq feet covered }
Reolink Argus 1080p at
130 110°:
8.47 10.00 feet {
81.34 95.94 sq feet covered }
Amcrest ProHD 1080p IP2M-841 / IP2M-841B at 90 degrees: 12.23 feet { 117.41 sq feet covered }
Annke AU-I61DR0104#US1 Cube Camera 4mm 1080p at 85°: 12.95 feet { 124.33 sq feet covered }
Swann PRO-T852 BNC connectors 1080p 80°: 13.76 feet { 132.12 sq feet covered }
Arlo 4K 180° Diagonal FOV ( 158° H FOV ): 13.93 feet { }
LaView 2MP dome camera (LV-PD50208 / LV-PD51208C) 2.8mm lens 1080p 98 degrees: 11.23 { 107.8 sq feet covered }
LaView 2MP bullet camera (LV-PB912F4C from kit LV-KNT91F84E2 ) 4mm lens 1080p at 83.6 degree: 13.16 feet { 126.28 sq feet covered }
LaView 2MP bullet camera (LV-PB932F4) 1080p 79 degree: 13.9 feet { 133.13 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP dome camera (LV-PD5040 / LV-PD514028C) 2.8mm lens 2688x1520 98 degrees: 15.72 { 211.23 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP dome camera (LV-PD504028) 2688x1520 90 Degrees: 17.12 feet { 230.08 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP Bullet Camera (LV-PB3140WC) 4mm lens 2688 x 1520 Viewing Angle: 83.6 Degrees: 18.43 feet { 247.67 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP bullet camera (LV-PB3040W) 2688 x 1520 79 Degree:19.5 feet { 262.0 sq feet covered }
LaView 4MP bullet camera (LV-PB3040W) 4mm lens 2688x1520 70 Degrees: 22.01 feet { 295.78 sq feet covered }
Qsee 3MP IP Bullet Camera (QTN8037B) 2048x1536 65°-70° ( using 70 degrees ): 16.77 feet { 171.7 sq feet covered }
Qsee 3MP IP WiFi Dome Camera (QCW3MP1D) 3.6mm 2304 x 1536 81°assume H FOV: 16.30 feet { 187.70 sq feet covered } ( using 2304 x 1536 on data sheet, Costco page shows 2048x1536 )
Qsee 4MP IP Bullet Cameras (QCN8026B) 3.6mm lens 2560 x 1440 84° : 17.47 feet { 223.61 sq feet covered }
Swann 5MP IP Bullet Camera (NHD-850) 2560x1920 note same H FOV as 4MP 63° : 23.3 feet { 298.3 sq feet covered }
Amcrest 4MP IP Bullet Camera (IP4M-1025E) 3.6mm lens 2688(H)x1520(V) 83°: 18.34 feet { 246.44 sq feet covered }
Amcrest 5MP IP Turret Camera ( IP5M-T1179EW-28MM) 2.8mm lens 2592 (H) × 1944 (V) H FOV 103°: 14.426 feet
Amcrest 5MP IP Turret Camera ( IP5M-T1179EW-36MM) 3.6mm lens 2592 (H) × 1944 (V) H FOV 84°: 17.69 feet
Hikvision DS-2CD2332-I 3MP EXIR Turret IP Cam 2048 x 1536 w/4mm lens 75.8° : 15.49 feet { 158.64 sq feet covered }
Dahua IPC-HDW4231EM-AS starlight fixed lens 1080p 1920x1080
w/2.8mm lens FOV H 110 degrees: 10 feet { area covered 95.94 sq feet covered }
w/3.6mm lens FOV H 87 degrees: 12.65 feet { 121.43 sq feet covered }
w/6mm lens FOV H 51 degrees: 21.58 feet { 207.16 sq feet covered }
Lorex 2MP / 1080p camera at 90 degrees: 12.23 feet { 117.4 sq feet covered }
Lorex 3MP camera at 75 degrees: 15.65 feet { 160.22 sq feet covered }
Lorex 2K / 4MP cameras at 83 degrees: 18.56 feet { 249.38 sq feet covered }
Lorex 2k / 4MP cameras 2688×1520 at 101 degrees ( like the bullet LKB343B or dome LKE343 in a lorex kit from costco online ): 17.12 feet { 258.2 sq feet covered }
Lorex 4K / 8MP LNB8921BW Bullet Camera 3840(H)×2160 (V) 2.8 lens FOV H:112.5°: 19.57 feet { 375.8 sq feet covered max }
Lorex 4K / 8MP LNE8950AB "Dome" / Turret Camera 3840(H)×2160 (V) 2.8 lens FOV H:112.5°: 19.57 feet { 375.8 sq feet covered max }
Lorex 4K / 8MP LNB8005 / LNB8111B Bullet Camera as well as Dahua IPC-HFW4830E-S 4K camera 4mm lens 88 degrees: 25.0 feet { 479.7 sq feet covered max }
Lorex 4K / 8MP LNB8973 Bullet Camera as well as Dahua IPC-HFW5830E-Z Bullet Camera 4K 3840(H)×2160 (V) varifocal 2.8-12mm lens FOV H:102°~39°: 21.58~56.44 feet { 414.4~1083.59 sq feet covered max }
Lorex 4K / 8MP LNE8974 "Dome" / Turret Camera as well as Dahua IPC-HDW5830R-Z Turret Camera 4K 3840(H)×2160 (V) varifocal 2.8-12mm lens FOV H:102°~39°: 21.58~56.44 feet { 414.3~1083.59 sq feet covered max }
Ref:
https://kintronics.com/calculatin...ip-camera/
https://www.axis.com/files/featur...402_lo.pdf
https://ipvm.com/reports/definitive-guide-ppf
Acti Lens Calculator ( I believe this is a EU standard as the primary column is in ppm instead of ppf - for facial ID their standard here is 300ppm - or 91 ppf. I am using the 100 ppf as a standard in my calculations )
Face Recognition Standard 300ppm Car License Plate Recognition Standard 220 ppm
https://www.acti.com/corpweb/Tool...ality.aspx
IF you have any doubts, I highly recommend you pick this up from your local Costco if they have it and bench test it. Remember you can add 2 more cameras to the NVR, perhaps a camera with a zoom or a PTZ camera or a starlight camera.
Youtube review is available by cipioh: Thanks Cipioh!
I just posted a quick video on this system, now that I have it home. I even recorded the beginning of the video with the actual Lorex 4K camera so you can see the quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO8avTACFPM
I will be installing soon!
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Please see the wiki for notes on bench testing this unit.
A number of SDers have reported a 1-2 second lag between actual view and the live OSD ( On Screen Display ). When accessing the camera directly this lag is not apparent according to reports. For recording purposes this should not be an issue. A more powerful display system, such as a better more powerful model of NVR or a i5/i7 windows PC running Blue Iris should resolve this lag.
Google Express availability info, thanks EverGreed:
If you need a better NVR with alarms consider the following kit:Q-See 8-Channel 4K HD IP NVR with 4TB HDD, 4 4K Cameras with 100' Night Vision
Item #1381613 Online Price 999.99$ Less 150.00 $ - $849.99 After $150 OFF
( $150 manufacturer's savings** is valid 9/28/17 through 10/31/17. While supplies last. )
https://m.costco.com/Q-See-8-Chan...53924.html
If you need more ports and a better NVR consider:
https://slickdeals.net/f/10584672-q-see-dahua-oem-16-port-4k-nvr-4tb-hdd-12x-4k-bullet-cameras-security-system-1999-costco-online-to-10-15-17-1999-99
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I agree with buying bulk Ethernet cord. Easy to make own lengths plus if you aren't happy with it you can easily just disconnect the cameras and return to store without having to undo your wiring. Camera systems don't fall under Costco's electronic 90 day return policy so you can always return if ever unhappy
For those looking at buying security camera systems PLEASE remember to bench test them and see if you are happy with their performance before climbing up ladders and mounting the cameras.
UPDATE - 11/23/2017:
Do you need or want quality low light cameras to go with one of these Dahua OEM PoE systems?
If so, I recommend the following Aliexpress store: Empire
This is due to the out standing reputation and service a gentleman by the name of Andy who works / runs the store has done with the members of ipcamtalk.com.
You can check that site out to check his reputation if you like. ( his handle is EmpireTecAndy - he also posts his email address there )
If he has stock he will ship DHL right away, so no crazy long 4-6 week wait. He has also reduced his prices for Black Friday.
Note - as it is challenging to ship from / to China, you can't easily return these like you can from US vendors so you have to be certain you want to buy these.
Trust me, the cameras listed below are quality international models with metal cases. (*)
Recommended for the Front door - place camera at 5-6 feet high. Nice solid case.
Dahua Starlight mini-dome wedge IPC-HDBW4231F-AS - also can record audio where legally allowed. Get 2.8mm lens if right in front of subjects, otherwise 3.6mm. Also has microSD slot.
http://urlhasbeenblocked/2A6eoP0
Dahua Starlight turret HDW4231EM-AS - a nice fixed lens camera - get 3.6mm lens ( 87°) or 6mm ( better zoom, 51° ). Can record audio also. Also has microSD slot.
http://urlhasbeenblocked/2mXKERh
Dahua Starlight varifocal turret IPC-HDW5231R-Z - killer low light camera with 4x optical zoom. Can record audio also. Also has microSD slot.
http://urlhasbeenblocked/2hXwcaj
Dahua Starlight varifocal bullet IPC-HFW5231E-Z - kill low light camera with 4x optical zoom. Same bullet style as in the 4K Lorex and Costco 4k Q-see kits.
http://urlhasbeenblocked/2jjvKjo
These cameras do not come with power adapters - so you will need a PoE switch, NVR with PoE, or a PoE power injector.
( * Be careful and avoid Chinese market cameras which are hard to update the firmware, and typically lower build quality with more plastic - if you try to update the hacked/patched with English language Chinese market cameras they will revert to P2P and Chinese language.. a real pita )
You can use the old wires to pull new. Not impressed with these average spec bullet cameras. Megapixel is not the only important spec for cameras, just adds noise to a not sharp picture. Spec sheet for cameras doesn't say much either
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I hate kits first off. They give you budget cameras and sell it as value because they still profit. Top to brands for the money are dahua and hikvision but if you have more money to spend for your budget there are some awesome brands. Qsee , Swann, and samsung sell garbage kits. Like full vandal proof solid metal domes flush mounted or with metal wall mount.
That said, I wonder if this maybe actually the IPC-HFW4830E-S model even though it seems the specs are different. Hard to tell without opening up the camera and seeing the board inside.
IF it is, then I have seen some impressive pictures from it on ipcamtalk
Remember there are 2 available ports which you can attach 2 more cameras to, SO you can easily add 2 cameras which fit your need better. Do you need a zoom? Do you need better night time performance? Do you need a PTZ?
Note that everyone has a slightly different need, these cameras should work very well in well lighted conditions, and should work better than many other cameras we've seen listed here, as well as many other cameras included in various kits.
Also note, these are by no means budget cameras. Wide lens and FOV yes. Budget no. They have solid metal cases, and better than a dome camera outdoors.
Also note, these are by no means budget cameras. Wide lens and FOV yes. Budget no. They have solid metal cases, and better than a dome camera outdoors.
Look like dahua oem not sure but even if they are they are low cost budget bullets in dahua portfolio. Don't have wdr or extreme wdr, no depth to field, weak point is bullet hinge and mount point, night vision not impressive, better camera have better low light or extreme low light performance lux specs below average, vandal domes are full ip67 rated and oh ya can go down to 40 below zero for operating temperature. You know how many people leave reviews that cameras fail at temperatures well above "rated for 22 degrees below zero". Only thing going for these bullets are cheap and high MP resolution
oh ya fov is only at certain resolutions and aspect ratios. 4mm many times is more like 60 degree fov. I get 2.8mm or varifocul. my front porch one is 4mm to 84mm with digital and optical zoom
For those looking at buying security camera systems PLEASE remember to bench test them and see if you are happy with their performance before climbing up ladders and mounting the cameras.