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HP Pavilion Power Gaming Tower: i5-7400, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, GTX 1060 Expired

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Walmart.com has HP Pavilion Power Gaming Tower (580-023w) on sale for $499. Select in-store pickup where stock permits. Thanks guen0ri

Note, availability will vary depending on area and this may not be available in all areas. Please refer to the forum thread for additional details and discussion.

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  • Intel Core i5-7400 Processor
  • 1TB Hard Drive
  • 8GB Memory
  • NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics
  • Windows 10

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I saw many thumbs up on the HP OMEN Desktop: i5-7400, 1TB HDD, GTX 1060 + HP Mixed Reality Best Buy bundle, but that deal is dead.

This HP Pavilion Power 580-023w Gaming Tower, Intel Core i5-7400, NVIDIA GTX 1060 3GB Graphics, 8 GB Memory, 1TB Hard Drive, Windows 10 from Walmart has very similar specs if not exact same just different brand, doesn't include VR system, but its priced cheaper than the hp vr bundle.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Pav...803136621?

Brickseek in case it doesn't show up at your closest store:
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inv...=803136621
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Last Edited by theimage13 November 30, 2020 at 02:54 AM
Expanding it-

It has ONE open SATA slot on the board. And a mounting spot for ONE hard drive or SSD. You will need your own SATA cable.

The M2 slot is A-Key, for wifi, not an SSD.


Temperature test results https://slickdeals.net/f/10955203-hp-pavilion-power-580-023w-gaming-tower-intel-core-i5-7400-nvidia-gtx-1060-3gb-graphics-8-gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-windows-10-499?p=109075599#post109075599

The GTX 1060's used in these units may have Samsung memory. Seeing 24.6 Mh/s mining Eth with 1000 Mhz( EEK!) mem OC + dual mining Sia at 246 Mh/s.


https://www.theinquirer.net/inqui...to-its-pcs

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Customers slam firm over 'CPU gobbling nonsense'

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13 yr old.. Yes. Honestly nothing beats building but $499 for a 1060, even 3gb, is good.
FYI this is a leftover from Black Friday and stock is plentiful based on brickseek. For those looking to get even more for their money but don't necessarily need the PC now keep a watch on these for prices to drop following their Chrismas season. It is a good starter gaming pc for sure.
This is just fine for 1080p gaming.

Just don't buy a 2k or 4k monitor.

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12-06-2017 at 12:07 PM.
12-06-2017 at 12:07 PM.
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dude. let them overclock, liquid cool and heatsink their ram. it's not worth it.
Fair enough, just trying to stop the masses from reading comments like his and thinking its a smart thing to do. People believe what they read on the internet. Just trying to keep the people accurately informed. ;-)
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romorris83
12-06-2017 at 12:28 PM.
12-06-2017 at 12:28 PM.
Brickseek search # 1197 and still 499😵
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12-06-2017 at 12:29 PM.
12-06-2017 at 12:29 PM.
Will this pair up well with the LG29um that's on sale? Gaming wise
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12-06-2017 at 12:39 PM.
12-06-2017 at 12:39 PM.
Quote from juicemane_ :
Fair enough, just trying to stop the masses from reading comments like his and thinking its a smart thing to do. People believe what they read on the internet. Just trying to keep the people accurately informed. ;-)
As a novice when it comes to these sort of things, I do look for posts like yours with actual information to help make my decisions easier. So keep at it, it's appreciated.
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12-06-2017 at 01:00 PM.
12-06-2017 at 01:00 PM.
Quote from iMDannyboi :
As a novice when it comes to these sort of things, I do look for posts like yours with actual information to help make my decisions easier. So keep at it, it's appreciated.
It's good to get in and learn stuff. Try reddit for some helpful discussions. Also read the reviews from the bigger tech sites, tomshardware, arstechnica, .etc. They're really helpful, since they do real testing.
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12-06-2017 at 01:36 PM.
12-06-2017 at 01:36 PM.
Quote from iMDannyboi :
As a novice when it comes to these sort of things, I do look for posts like yours with actual information to help make my decisions easier. So keep at it, it's appreciated.
Glad I could help Smilie

I opened my unit today (I bought one for my nephew for Christmas). I am running benchmarks/stress testing now. I will create a new post shortly with the results. Should help clarify the performance of this system (the forum posts are all over the place).
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12-06-2017 at 01:37 PM.
12-06-2017 at 01:37 PM.
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Lies.

You are not seeing an improvement in FPS when overclocking your RAM. It is pure placebo. The ONLY way that is even remotely possible is if your RAM is your bottleneck. Given that your PC is composed of budget parts, you are likely hitting your CPU/GPU bottleneck first. Which means your RAM is not being utilized 100% and would therefore not see a noticeable improvement in performance.

Like I said, overclocking RAM is pointless. Just let it go.
Wow you are going there with name calling and accusations. Is it really that serious bro?

I don't own this PC. My PC isn't budget. Anyway your basically saying increasing ram speed doesn't add fps, bro do some research you are losing credibility. Even though you are saying uneducated things I won't get into the name calling like you
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12-06-2017 at 01:40 PM.
12-06-2017 at 01:40 PM.
Quote from juicemane_ :
Fair enough, just trying to stop the masses from reading comments like his and thinking its a smart thing to do. People believe what they read on the internet. Just trying to keep the people accurately informed. ;-)
But you said I have budget components and don't even know what I have. You are making comments with the information needed
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12-06-2017 at 01:47 PM.
12-06-2017 at 01:47 PM.
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Wow you are going there with name calling and accusations. Is it really that serious bro?

I don't own this PC. My PC isn't budget. Anyway your basically saying increasing ram speed doesn't add fps, bro do some research you are losing credibility. Even though you are saying uneducated things I won't get into the name calling like you
You might want to read my post. I said what you posted was a lie. I didn't call you a "name" at any point.

Synthetics are not real world performance. Those few extra points on your Futuremark score or w.e platform you run are not going to carry over into real performance gains. Pushing your RAM way beyond its stock speeds for a potential 1-2 fps increase is pointless. If you take the time to look at any OC enthusiast forums/sites/videos you would see that the general consensus is that overclocking RAM in this era of PC's is a waste of time and the damage and instability is not worth the minimal to non-existent gains. (mic drop).
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12-06-2017 at 02:46 PM.
12-06-2017 at 02:46 PM.
This just dropped to $400 at my local Walmart...should we expect this to drop any lower?
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12-06-2017 at 02:53 PM.
12-06-2017 at 02:53 PM.
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This just dropped to $400 at my local Walmart...should we expect this to drop any lower?

Can we buy at $499 and return and rebuy if it goes down at another store ?
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12-06-2017 at 03:00 PM.
12-06-2017 at 03:00 PM.
Stress Test & Temp Results:
I took the time to test out this HP unit today. The results are below. I have attached screen shots below if you would like to verify my findings.

Software/Tools:
Aida64
RealTemp
CPU-Z
HWMonitor
MSI Afterburner
MSI Kombustor
Unigine Heaven
RealBench (ROG)

Test Setup:
I ran each test twice (yes I was being lazy, but this is for temps not synthetic scores).
The ambient temp was controlled as much as possible. I placed my thermostat near the intake grill on the side (roughly 120 mm intake cutout). I closely monitored my ambient temp. It stayed between 76-78.7*F
Removed all Bloatware and installed Windows Updates & Nvidia Drivers (388.43).
No changes were made to the hardware/clock speeds/fan curves (this was all stock).

Results:
Aida64 (system stability test, 15 minutes)
Tested with the unit on my desk, side panel on, ambient temp was 76.2*
CPU: 57* C Max (package)
GPU: 80* C Max (no throttling, ran between 1823-1911mhz).

RealBench (stress test, 30 minutes)
Tested with the unit on my desk, side panel on, ambient temp was 78.6*
CPU: 58* C Max (package)
GPU: 81* C Max (no throttling, ran between 1823-1911mhz).

MSI Kombustor (Furmark stress test - 15 minutes)
Tested with the unit on my desk, side panel on, ambient temp was 78.1*
CPU: 58* C Max (package)
GPU: 84* C Max (throttled after 30 seconds, ran between 1506-1911mhz).
* Note - During heavy stress testing the GPU throttled. It rarely stayed at base speeds (1506) and was fluctuating between 1700-1823mhz while floating between 78-82*C (it hit 84*C at 1911mhz). The card works like any GTX 10 series, it runs as fast as possible within the power and temp limits. The dynamic clock speed works well.

Unigine Heaven (15 minutes)

Tested with the unit on my desk, side panel on, ambient temp was 78.2*
CPU: 58* C Max (package)
GPU: 85* C Max (throttled after 35 seconds, ran between 1506-1911mhz, stayed around 1600mhz for duration).
* Note - During heavy stress testing the GPU throttled (a lot). This test was somewhat disappointing for me as an enthusiast. When I first started the test it was very similar to the Furmark results above. After 5 minutes the temps peaked at 83*C at 1670mhz. This is a problem for me. Now the stock clock speed is only 1506mhz, so throttling down to 1600ish is not bad considering the size and limited airflow. See the summary for how I feel about this one.

Unigine Heaven (15 minutes)
Tested with the unit on my desk, side panel OFF, ambient temp was 78.5*
CPU: 55* C Max (package)
GPU: 83* C Max (throttled after 45 seconds, ran between 1750-1911mhz, stayed around 1850mhz for duration).
* Note - Removing the side panel made a huge difference. The overall temps stayed around TM, however; the clock speed was roughly 180-250mhz faster at the same temps. This translates to about a 5-12% increase in FPS.

Summary:
Here's the deal. I am not returning this PC even though it bothers me that it will throttle while on intense gaming (not below base clock speed). There is a difference between CS:GO and Battlefield 1, so for my nephew who wants to play mostly CSGO/RocketLeague/Minecraft, this will not be an issue. When he moves on to heavy hitters (Destiny 2, Forza, BF1) he will get about 10% less performance than his fellow GTX 1060 3GB/i5-7400/8GB RAM brethren. I can live with that (he won't know the difference).

For optimized gaming you wont throttle and you can expect typical GTX 1060 3GB performance. On heavy hitting titles, be prepared to get throttled and average about 10% less FPS than what you see in benchmarks. This is not the end of the world. It is still significantly faster than a 1050ti and is still a solid performer for the price. If you have a really hot (above 81* F) room/office/house/garage, you will want to read about some potential solutions below otherwise you will end up running at or just above base clock speeds.

Potential Fixes:
#1 Remove the side panel and profit (I know, it sucks).
#2 The GPU is isolated by the side panel and the airflow holes for the CPU barely help the GPU get any cool airflow. That is why removing the panel helps so much. What I was thinking about doing is drilling an additional small pattern of holes on the side panel so that the GPU can draw air from outside.
#3 Utilize the secondary 3.5" slot - There is a small vent in the side panel where the 2nd HDD is located. I was considering making a bracket to mount an 60mm Noctua fan directly in front of the GPU.
#4 Remove the Optical drive and put in an 80mm Noctua fan while using the optical drive opening as an intake (mesh screen over it from inside with hot glue to cut down on dust and make it look nice) + the hdd vent
#5 Doing 2,3 & 4.
#6 Swap into a different case.

TL;DR - It will throttle (never below the base clock speed) on heavy titles like Destiny 2, Battlefield 1, etc. It runs perfectly fine on optimized games like CS:GO, LoL, Rocket League, etc. If you can live with 10% less performance from a comparable system (only on heavy titles), this PC can't be beat for the price (especially if you are one of the lucky few picking them up for $400 or less).
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12-06-2017 at 03:05 PM.
12-06-2017 at 03:05 PM.
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Again are you saying there is no difference in gaming with ram speed?

Also who said anything about futuremark? Just like my budget components you seem to think you know much more than you know.

Anyway we all know how this works. You bought this PC so know you have to defend it's components. So when you were talking about budget build you were talking about yourself, not me. Anyway you're wrong but what ever, enjoy your crap ram and I'll enjoy my overclock quality ram.

Btw when you straight say someone is lying you are calling them a liar. Why would I need to lie? You think anything that happens or is said here effects my life at all? Lmfao
Who's making assumptions now? I bought one for my 11 year old nephew. Just curious, how do you know your FPS increased in games if you didn't benchmark it? You honestly going to say you just looked at the OSD from afterburner and said "Oh it went up, yay!" Not exactly a controlled test to check if you did get any gains (you didn't). You just shot yourself in the foot while trying to make me look stupid. Go troll somewhere else. Real PC enthusiasts are making valid points while you run around pretending to "help". Guess what? You are not helping. Bye Felicia.
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12-06-2017 at 03:16 PM.
12-06-2017 at 03:16 PM.
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Who's making assumptions now? I bought one for my 11 year old nephew. Just curious, how do you know your FPS increased in games if you didn't benchmark it? You honestly going to say you just looked at the OSD from afterburner and said "Oh it went up, yay!" Not exactly a controlled test to check if you did get any gains (you didn't). You just shot yourself in the foot while trying to make me look stupid. Go troll somewhere else. Real PC enthusiasts are making valid points while you run around pretending to "help". Guess what? You are not helping. Bye Felicia.
What assumption did I make? You bought one right? Doesn't matter who it's for. I didn't assume I went by what you said, I don't automatically assume people are lying, but hey I'm not a liar so yeah.

I make game saves at the points where my machine is challenged and then I go through and run that part of the game 10 times whole video capturing and then go back and check my highs and lows. I'm not saying my results are 100% accurate but I would bet money I'm seeing 2 to 4 fps more in most games. There have been a few games in which I got basically the same results with no fps gain.

Thing is we are going back and forth because you have implied I'm a liar and I'm wrong so I'm trying to get you to have a accurate opinion. But on your side I have no idea why you have carried on. I am getting a few more for but it's like you are so worried about the lifespan of my ram. You would rather me give up my 2 to 4 fps just so the ram last many years after I shit can them, why? Only reason I can see is you're a hater. You see it all the time in budget threads.
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