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Refurb KitchenAid Pro-Line 7qt Stand Mixer in Red (RKSM7581CA) $269.99

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This KitchenAid's Pro Line of stand mixers, specifically their 7qt version. Model is KSM7581. Condition is factory reconditioned and fulfilled by Amazon.

For those who are not familiar with KitchenAid stand mixers, this is pretty much KitchenAId's top of the line for stand mixers (besides their commercial line), with a few downsides.

Pros
  • 7qt capacity is huge, handles 8.5 loaves of bread, 14 dozen cookies, etc
  • DC motor with 1.3 HP = quiet performance with lots of torque (great for kneading and does not get as hot) and is better than most of the KitchenAids you will find, which typically come with an AC motor. The DC motor will out perform all KitchenAid AC motors and is the most powerful KitchenAid stand mixer motor they sell.
  • Comes with spiral dough kneader (better than dough hook)
  • Comes with 11 wire whisk, which has more wires = better whisking
  • Per the woot description - all metal gears
  • Good price. A new Pro Line Series 7 ranges from $450-700
Cons (full informed consent!)
  • 7 qt is too big if you are going to be baking infrequently or with small batches
  • Refurbished = 6 month KitchenAid manufacturer's warranty instead of 5 years for their current Pro Line Series 7
    • I've heard varying reports of the quality of refurb, but I generally would not hesitate, especially given this price point
  • Varying reports scattered across the internet about KitchenAid stand mixers in general, with some people complaining of metal finish coming off the dough hook or flat beater, or rarely, oil from the motor leaking out.
    • Pro tip: even if it says dishwasher safe, hand wash it only!

I wasn't able to find much information about the difference between this precise model (KSM7581) and the one on the KitchenAid US website [kitchenaid.com] (KSM7586), but I did find the KSM7581 on the KitchenAid Australian website [com.au]. They seem to be the same.

Free shipping for Amazon Prime members. The deal is good until sold out or the end of today (May 28th, 11:59pm CDT).

Happy to answer any questions as well.

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I have this mixer. It's fantastic.
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Edit: Is this deal for the red color? It does not specify (in the description)
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Around mothers day a new one was $290 after cash back and rebates.
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Edit: Is this deal for the red color? It does not specify (in the description)
Yes the letters after the model #, ie CA stands for the color. In this case it's Candy Apple
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Around mothers day a new one was $290 after cash back and rebates.
For a 7 qt?
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In light of all the DeWalt deals lately and the discussion of brushed vs brushless motors surrounding it, are DC motors the same as brushless?
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For a 7 qt?
Yes sir. It was like 450. Then cash back site had 15% back, chase freedom also had 5% back, and kitchenaid had a $100 rebate
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In light of all the DeWalt deals lately and the discussion of brushed vs brushless motors surrounding it, are DC motors the same as brushless?
See this discussion [thefreshloaf.com]. Appears that KitchenAid uses brushed DC motors.
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Yes sir. It was like 450. Then cash back site had 15% back, chase freedom also had 5% back, and kitchenaid had a $100 rebate
Wow.. Nice. Thanks for the info
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In the Woot description it says 1.3 hp motor. In the Australian kitchenaid website description it says 500 Watt motor. I've searched different websites for this particular model, a lot of them don't even list the size of the motor. I know Kitchenaids 7 quart Proline mixer (KSM7586) has a 1.3 hp motor but this seems to be a different one. Anybody know the watt/hp for sure?
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See this discussion [thefreshloaf.com]. Appears that KitchenAid uses brushed DC motors.
Awesome. Thanks for the link!
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In the Woot description it says 1.3 hp motor. In the Australian kitchenaid website description it says 500 Watt motor. I've searched different websites for this particular model, a lot of them don't even list the size of the motor. I know Kitchenaids 7 quart Proline mixer (KSM7586) has a 1.3 hp motor but this seems to be a different one. Anybody know the watt/hp for sure?
KitchenAid tries hard not to specify the Wattage because consumers don't know the advantage of DC over AC - in that consumers don't know that DC motors requires a lot less wattage to operate - when I was shopping for a KitchenAid hand mixer 3 years ago, their web-page specifically said they don't disclose the Wattage because of this issue. When a consumer is comparing a 250W DC-motor KitchenAid mixer with a cheaper 400W AC-motor Breville mixer for instance, they think they're getting a bargain with the cheaper Breville that has a 400W AC-motor, when the reality is that the 250W DC motor is actually more powerful than the Breville. This is very similar to when CCFL bulbs came into the market - it took a TON of marketing to inform consumers that the 15W CCFL bulb outputs the same light as the old 60W incandescent.

In regards to the Austraiian website, there could perhaps be some Australian consumer affair law that says the wattage has to be disclosed to consumers.
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DC motors are far better for kitchen aid mixers. In general this will likely be too big for most people. The larger the mixer the worse is it for smaller batches. Aka can it whip 1 egg white? Likely not. Most of the larger ones can scrape by but at 7 quarts this is double recipes only. Good if you like baking for church or something though.
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Just to clear up the confusion about this particular model number: The 7581 was specific to Williams-Sonoma and is no longer in production. There is no functional difference between the 7581 and the newer 7586 (which is the 7qt model you see new at retailers). The 7581 basically just fancier. It has a better paint job and the switch and front attachment cover are metal instead of plastic. The 7581 also had a different coating on the beaters which made them shinier, and the bowl was impressively polished. Typical WS opulence. Other than that, if you're thinking this older model is inferior, it isn't. The internals and bowl/beater sizing is the same for both 7qt mixers.

These refub 7581s often don't have the original, high end finished bowl and beaters, so don't be surprised if you find yours lacks luster when it arrives.

That all said, the above posters who referenced the size and suitable tasks for this thing are absolutely right. Unless you are constantly making very low hydration dough (like bagels) or very large batches (10 dozen cookies, 5+ loaves at a time), this mixer is not the one for you. It will do a worse job on smaller batches (4 dozen cookies, a typical 2-3 loaf bread recipe, whipping egg whites, whatever) than a smaller size will. The beater, dough hook, and whisk simply aren't designed for small tasks.

If you like the bowl lift, the Professional 5 Plus will be more than adequate for most home users. I know, a DC motor sounds great, and what amazing things you can make with a 7qt bowl! But seriously, overkill.

Now if you're willing to spend some more money, you could buy a special 5qt bowl designed to fit in the 7qt mixer... but don't be an idiot, you don't need that either.
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