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That price is crazy and 4 seems like way too many! Anyone want to go halfsies?!
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Bought the same 4-pack from Costco over the holidays when it cost $279.99 (actually $214 with coupons). These are great devices, and our Deco units have been running without a single hiccup since Day One. Plenty fast by default, and we set up MoCA to make the backhauling faster. $199 is a no-brainer price.
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Bought the same 4-pack from Costco over the holidays when it cost $279.99 (actually $214 with coupons). These are great devices, and our Deco units have been running without a single hiccup since Day One. Plenty fast by default, and we set up MoCA to make the backhauling faster. $199 is a no-brainer price.
Pray do tell how you used MoCA ....

The Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA) is an international standards consortium publishing specifications for networking over coaxial cable.

perhaps you meant Gb Ethernet as those are the only ports on these devices ...
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Pray do tell how you used MoCA ....

The Multimedia over Coax Alliance (MoCA) is an international standards consortium publishing specifications for networking over coaxial cable.

perhaps you meant Gb Ethernet as those are the only ports on these devices ...
Nope. We use a MoCA setup.

If you live/work in a house or building that is wired for cable TV, then you are ready to use a MoCA adapter like this:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...twork.html

Because Deco, like other wifi mesh devices, allows ethernet backhaul, you just insert an ethernet cable to the 'home' Deco and plug in the other end to the MoCA adapter, which is then plugged into the cable coax (via a splitter if you are already using the cable for TV, etc.) jack. Now the 'home' Deco thinks it is using the ethernet backhaul when the signal actually travels via the cable wiring. That is the definition of MoCA - using the coax for networking.

All that is left to do is to plug in the same MoCA adapter in the identical manner for any and/or all of the other Deco units spread around your location. Now you have a dedicated backhaul channel open with the satellite unit(s) using the cable wiring with the same 'up to' 1 Gbps throughput as ethernet so long as the adapter is MoCA 2.0 and above.

This 'trick' is nothing new, by the way. A lot of people use the same MoCA setup on their network devices.
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Nope. We use a MoCA setup.

If you live/work in a house or building that is wired for cable TV, then you are ready to use a MoCA adapter like this:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/pr...twork.html

Because Deco, like other wifi mesh devices, allows ethernet backhaul, you just insert an ethernet cable to the 'home' Deco and plug in the other end to the MoCA adapter, which is then plugged into the cable coax (via a splitter if you are already using the cable for TV, etc.) jack. Now the 'home' Deco thinks it is using the ethernet backhaul when the signal actually travels via the cable wiring. That is the definition of MoCA - using the coax for networking.

All that is left to do is to plug in the same MoCA adapter in the identical manner for any and/or all of the other Deco units spread around your location. Now you have a dedicated backhaul channel open with the satellite unit(s) using the cable wiring with the same 'up to' 1 Gbps throughput as ethernet so long as the adapter is MoCA 2.0 and above.

This 'trick' is nothing new, by the way. A lot of people use the same MoCA setup on their network devices.
All of that I knew already ... the point was that you actually used a MoCA to ethernet adapter .... and how much did those cost you, $160??
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Lots of tivos already have moca built-in. A moca adapter can be had for about $50 or about. The guy was trying to help and he was correct although I do not have this tp-link deco. I use moca with a WDS set up.
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All of that I knew already ... the point was that you actually used a MoCA to ethernet adapter .... and how much did those cost you, $160??
Our MoCA adapters cost $80 a pair. That was all we needed, as the two MoCA-backhauled units effectively covered our modest home. The other two Deco units that came in the package are rarely accessed, so we left them on the default wifi-backhaul.
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Overall great of you to share that coax Ethernet backhaul trick for the unknowing. Smilie
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I wish I had never wasted money on range extenders and repeaters.
Complete junk. I never saw improved speed


My modem and my router is in the basement and we spend a lot of time on the second floor so the speed sucks on the second floor.
Not sure what to do with it. ...
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I wish I had never wasted money on range extenders and repeaters.
Complete junk. I never saw improved speed


My modem and my router is in the basement and we spend a lot of time on the second floor so the speed sucks on the second floor.
Not sure what to do with it. ...
That's because you are essentially cutting your bandwidth in half with a repeater. What you need to do is use a dedicated AP or set a 2nd router in AP mode on the 2nd floor and hardwire an Ethernet cable from your modem/router in the basement to the AP you have on 2nd floor. You'll be able to have the same wifi name/SSID between both and it will automatically switch between the device that is providing stronger signal. No reduction in throughput/bandwidth.

Running a hardwire connecting both devices might be inconvenient but it's totally worth it. Much better to use an access point than these mesh systems for keeping maximum speed/throughput.
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That's because you are essentially cutting your bandwidth in half with a repeater. What you need to do is use a dedicated AP or set a 2nd router in AP mode on the 2nd floor and hardwire an Ethernet cable from your modem/router in the basement to the AP you have on 2nd floor. You'll be able to have the same wifi name/SSID between both and it will automatically switch between the device that is providing stronger signal. No reduction in throughput/bandwidth.

Running a hardwire connecting both devices might be inconvenient but it's totally worth it. Much better to use an access point than these mesh systems for keeping maximum speed/throughput.
So actually I do have a router laying around and i have in Wall Ethernet connections available. So on the second floor, I can hook up a second router to the Ethernet port?

Is there a special trick to this? Because i tried it one time and it didn't work.
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So actually I do have a router laying around and i have in Wall Ethernet connections available. So on the second floor, I can hook up a second router to the Ethernet port?

Is there a special trick to this? Because i tried it one time and it didn't work.
You have to make sure your extra router has an AP (access point) mode first. Change the mode to AP mode. If it does have AP mode, you just mirror the exact same frequency, security, and wireless SSID/password settings into it as your basement router.

You need to connect an Ethernet cable from one port of your basement router into a wall Ethernet jack, then connect the extra router you have into a wall port on 2nd floor. Can use any port on the 2nd router to plug a cable into.
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You have to make sure your extra router has an AP (access point) mode first. Change the mode to AP mode. If it does have AP mode, you just mirror the exact same frequency, security, and wireless SSID/password settings into it as your basement router.

You need to connect an Ethernet cable from one port of your basement router into a wall Ethernet jack, then connect the extra router you have into a wall port on 2nd floor. Can use any port on the 2nd router to plug a cable into.
There are over 10 Ethernet cables in my basement. They go from Apple router to 3 different switches and then all over the house.
I didn't set it up. So I don't know too much about it.

I'll the check on the AP thing. It's an old router that I had before I bought the Apple router.
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I'm extremely naive on home networking and was set to buy the Nighthawk X6S AC3000 today on my trip to costco. I believe it's a much more powerful router than these Deco's but I'm not sure which is the better route.

My house isn't wired with ethernet so I currently have two actiontec modem/routers set up in Moca (one in basement one in upstairs) but their wifi performance is pretty crummy. I figured the Nighthawk could probably be put on my main floor and reach the entire house and perform great in my yard as well.


Since I already have a Moca set up, i assume I could just attache a Deco to each router and not need to purchase the adapter that another poster kindly described? Also I assume I could use two of the 4 here and the other two at my mothers house with no issue?

I'm unlikely to use advanced network settings so would there be a major drawback to using the deco's vs the nighthawk other than what I assume is subpar range outside of the home?

Much thanks for any response!
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