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I'm curious, do you feel bookshelves should never be used upfront, regardless of model, or specifically just the Pioneers?
If you argued they are too warm for many people for HT use, so not ideal as fronts, that's fine. Personally they are too warm for me, but everyone has different tastes.
Or if you argued that towers provide a fuller sound, so if money isn't an issue, you like those better upfront... again, that's fine and at least some logic behind that opinion.
But if someone is on a strict budget and likes warmer speakers, sure, the Pioneers upfront are fine. I think many would rather have Cores upfront (if they own a sub), but again, this stuff is all subjective so doesn't apply to everyone.
The main issue with your multiple comments is that you totally miss the obvious with these Pioneers. They are budget speakers, but unlike a sound bar, they are actual speakers with a proper cabinet, crossover, and drivers. They have far more range than any sound bar which is gimped by the shape alone. Soundbars don't do stereo well, have no range, and come with puny subs.
These get a lot praise due to price, and that fact they are pretty unoffensive. They aren't too bright. They don't excel at much, but they aren't junk either. 4 of these, and a center is under $200 on sale. Add a $200 sub, and $150 receiver, and you have a proper 5.1 home theater for under $550. No soundbar can compare to that. Now if you don't like the way they sound. That is your opinion, and you're welcome to it. But to state that soundbars are better doesn't sound right to me.
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I use this with my 49" 4k tv used as a monitor which works fine for me even with games. I have atmos speakers in the ceiling above my head. These power the Pioneer speakers just fine with plenty of headroom. As others will mention, the Pioneer Andrew Jones center isn't the best sounding, though.
I use this with my 49" 4k tv used as a monitor which works fine for me even with games. I have atmos speakers in the ceiling above my head. These power the Pioneer speakers just fine with plenty of headroom. As others will mention, the Pioneer Andrew Jones center isn't the best sounding, though.
We differ in our opinions as to the quality of the Pioneers overall, but it's not like the C22 is really bad compared to the BS22s. It's just that some (not all) have an issue with warm speakers and dialogue clarity.
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We differ in our opinions as to the quality of the Pioneers overall, but it's not like the C22 is really bad compared to the BS22s. It's just that some (not all) have an issue with warm speakers and dialogue clarity.
For those actually interested, get a good soundbar over this, and you're set. Don't go in thinking this will sound better than a top sound bar. The amount of money spent on a receiver, plus these speakers is a waste.
Look at: https://www.qacoustics.
These are not just good for surround or atmos setup. These are bookshelf speakers. They were just fine for those who don't want tower speakers. I have these. They are great and will do just fine for a home theater setup or just stereo setup. I also have used tower speakers with 10" drivers for my home theater in the past... while they gave thunderous sound, it was a big footprint. those have been retired to the garage.
plus... how much are these right now?!?!? Great deal!! Find COMPARABLE bookshelf or tower speakers AT THIS price! These sound great!!
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